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    Quote Originally Posted by NuclearLaunch

    Let's get us some test and dbol?
    Indeed.... That's what I want lol. But I was thinking test and tren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Indeed.... That's what I want lol. But I was thinking test and tren.
    I'm still to uneducated to jump on AAS, but tren first cycle? I'll wait till I have more cycles under my belt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuclearLaunch

    I'm still to uneducated to jump on AAS, but tren first cycle? I'll wait till I have more cycles under my belt.
    Oh yea. My first will probably long ester test (so I can get it at a buddies house as the wife don't want me shooting up unless I get trt).
    And then use some AIs. Then add more as time goes on. Well this is all out of the scope of this log.

    Update. Yesterday I was down another .2kgs. Went to bed at 94 woke up at 92.2. So I'm down around 3.8kgs from Monday.
    Good frost week of adding in the burn days. Today is a build day though so I'll have some carbs today. Looking lean.
    Note: dropped the erase pro to eod and my joints are no longer grinding but still looking dry. Good stuff IMO.
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    Nice start man. So you say you are looking lean, I take it you have seen some nice changes already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Nice start man. So you say you are looking lean, I take it you have seen some nice changes already?

    Yea saw changes on the 3rd day. Really noticeable today. Hopefully it'll show in the pics. I took some on Monday and will take more on monday. Along with cold measurements again. Pics will be uploaded soon. Editing them now. (Banged with some posting work and work in general... lol)
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    So this is the starting pics. Hopefully I get leaner than this as I am pretty fat atm...
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    big improvements. awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlychevy6 View Post
    big improvements. awesome.
    Thanks, those are all cold so I am not pumped.

    Should be some good improvements next monday
    Let's hope the weekend doesn't do much harm to me. Wife knows i'm on a diet though....
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    how are you liking s4 brah? Compared to a normal PH? I ran s4 a while back, it was fun on strength gains, but expensive.

    I ask because I am thinking about running ketanadrol/epi but have yet to run a PH
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    how are you liking s4 brah? Compared to a normal PH? I ran s4 a while back, it was fun on strength gains, but expensive.

    I ask because I am thinking about running ketanadrol/epi but have yet to run a PH
    Well it's faster so far than most PH I have run (cept superdrol). I noticed drying and leaning pretty much on day 3. I am doing volume based training which is not my forte so I am not noticing much strength YET. Hope that changes. S4 was pricey? I got it pretty damn cheap. THe thing is I doubt it can come close to the FEELING of being on. Who knows though.

    Katanadrol and epi will lean you out REAL nice though. And probably give you some mean strength gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Well it's faster so far than most PH I have run (cept superdrol). I noticed drying and leaning pretty much on day 3. I am doing volume based training which is not my forte so I am not noticing much strength YET. Hope that changes. S4 was pricey? I got it pretty damn cheap. THe thing is I doubt it can come close to the FEELING of being on. Who knows though.

    Katanadrol and epi will lean you out REAL nice though. And probably give you some mean strength gains.
    Nice brah, I took it around when it first came out mainly for its supposed ability to help with joints. Maybe they purified it better, I didn't get an alpha feeling but i felt pretty good. Have fun with it. Please do pick up some supps for vision though, I had a few issues with the yellow lights/etc but for some reason when i came off i could see a lot better in the dark....
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal

    Nice brah, I took it around when it first came out mainly for its supposed ability to help with joints. Maybe they purified it better, I didn't get an alpha feeling but i felt pretty good. Have fun with it. Please do pick up some supps for vision though, I had a few issues with the yellow lights/etc but for some reason when i came off i could see a lot better in the dark....
    Really? S4 supposed to help joints? I'm just getting drier lol.
    What kind of supps did you run for vision?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Really? S4 supposed to help joints? I'm just getting drier lol.
    What kind of supps did you run for vision?
    well if you read russian stars write up s4 in theory causes RNA mutation. It's supposed to help with recovery and joints haha not sure why you are dry man. That's the only real reason I took it. I took bilberry and lutein, go passed recommended dose though its pretty cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal

    well if you read russian stars write up s4 in theory causes RNA mutation. It's supposed to help with recovery and joints haha not sure why you are dry man. That's the only real reason I took it. I took bilberry and lutein, go passed recommended dose though its pretty cheap.
    Hmmm. Very interesting. I'll look it up. I always thought it was more androgenic and drying. And when I started taking it I noticed that. But I could be wrong. I have lowered fat by quite a bit so my joints could be drying from that. I will look into the vision supps.
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    Looking much leaner than the last pics I remember Matt. Nice work so far! Keep it up and get ripped up bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13
    Looking much leaner than the last pics I remember Matt. Nice work so far! Keep it up and get ripped up bro!
    I actually leaned up when I went on vacation. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000
    In for this bro.
    Thanks for stopping by.

    Good updates so far. After my carb meal yesterday I'm still 92.4. This is really light seeing I didn't drop a load yet...
    I will be re adjusting build days to add in a little more carbs as I don't wanna kill my metabolism. I have been actually doing something like:
    1400 cals burn day and 2200 builds. But its just one week. Hopefully I didn't crash my metabolism. Lol.
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    Hey Mattrag your still taking Urso?. You have been taking that for a while now huh?. It must be working well for you then I guess?.
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    Unfortunately I am at the end of my S4....I took my last dose yesterday. I'm entering my little PCT right now. Here is a link to my log if you want to stop by brother!

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    weight is steady at around 93kgs. I have not posted the workouts mainly because HST is really boring to me... Nothing really amazing... haha. Any questions? Dosing still at 50mgs ED of S4. Feeling Strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Hey Mattrag your still taking Urso?. You have been taking that for a while now huh?. It must be working well for you then I guess?.

    I think of urso as a health supp. For liver, anti inflammatory etc. Not as some myostatin blocker.
    I like it, but then again does it work? Not as well as Sdrol I can tell you that much lol.


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    Unfortunately I am at the end of my S4....I took my last dose yesterday. I'm entering my little PCT right now. Here is a link to my log if you want to stop by brother!

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    Got some nice guns there brolly, damn near as big as mine and I got about 50lbs on ya!
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    Were there any sides? Like the blurred vision
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Got some nice guns there brolly, damn near as big as mine and I got about 50lbs on ya!
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    You are looking beastly and definitely leaner Matt! Keep it up buddy!

    And if ursobolic is working for you then good, but I haven't noticed a damn thing from it. How many do you take per day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886
    Got some nice guns there brolly, damn near as big as mine and I got about 50lbs on ya!
    My biceps have always been a strong point for me. But nothing great. Soon bro soon. Just gotta lean up more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 808shredded
    Were there any sides? Like the blurred vision
    Nope no sides as of yet. I hear the sides on vision are more adjusting from light to dark. None of that either though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    They definitely are beast!
    Hahah. Thanks, not yet, until I look like Rick I'm nothing but a Chubb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13
    You are looking beastly and definitely leaner Matt! Keep it up buddy!

    And if ursobolic is working for you then good, but I haven't noticed a damn thing from it. How many do you take per day?
    I take 800 mgs a day. Noticing? Not much I would say. I run it like I run milk thistle. As protection for my liver so I can run goodies lol.

    Thanks. I need to look leaner...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Hahah. Thanks, not yet, until I look like Rick I'm nothing but a Chubb.
    We both know rick isn't human bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    We both know rick isn't human bro!
    Still, its achievable if you have the dedication and will.
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    Still, its achievable if you have the dedication and will.
    It's a hell of a goal thats for sure. Keep it up man. With the way you work you will get there no doubt.
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