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    LiveToLift will be joining the ranks of the gods (Mdrol/Andromass cycle)


    Well the time has finally come to put all this research to work! This is obviously a bulking cycle with no worries of lean mass etc. I have been on a bulk for some time now and it has been slow and steady for a while. Initially I wanted to just run the andromass being that the sides are so minimal. Through research and some guidance by our own FLEX I've decided what better to compliment such a good product like andromass then with a kick start by the strongest compound out....

    Overall goal you ask? Gain weight! Muscle weight of course but if half is water/fat no biggie I have an incredible metabolism and any unnecessary gain will be easily controlled through diet on pct alone. I'm hearing horror stories and also glorified stories on Mdrol and am going into this cycle with as much caution as possible. I would definitely love any help or opinions to be posted to kind of guide/critique any thing along the way. Sit back and tighten your seat belts boys and girls its gonna be a hell of a ride!

    What is on hand:
    2 bottles cycle assist by CEL
    1 bottle Mdrol CEL
    1 bottle Andromass V2
    1 bottle Andromass V3
    1 bottle BCAA capsules
    1 bottle taurine capsules
    Tub of german creatine
    2 Bottles of fish oil
    Multi-vitamin
    1 bottle hawthorn berry
    Whey protein



    PCT On Hand
    Nolva liquid
    Formula X
    Reversitol V2

    starting weight will be listed at 168.5. Alright here we go!

    ************Final Review************

    So here is a bit of a review that I may edit when I get to a computer but have a bit of time on lunch right now.

    Bench Sets at 210>235
    Military press Sets at 145>155
    Squats Sets at 225>235
    Lat Pulldown Sets at 160>200

    Total weight gain was 7.5 pounds

    Mdrol

    Pros: Quick weight gain
    Huge strength gain
    Cheap pricetag
    Alpha male feeling
    Incredible pump

    Cons: Headaches were bad at times
    Lethargy

    Andromass V2/3 (ran v2 with Mdrol and v3 alone following the Mdrol/v2)

    Pros: slight strength increase
    Didn't feel toxic at all
    Vascularity increase

    Cons: PRICE
    Heartburn/nasty burps
    PRICE lol
    Lethargy mainly just from v2

    Overall cycle was great, held onto about 7 pounds as of now, strength increase was amazing and is still with me now! Mdrol was definitely more toxic then the Hdrol run I had and it was noticeable! AM was too expensive to justify running, sorry PP! Really thought I would see more weight gain overall too, the highest I saw was 12 pounds during v2/Mdrol but it quickly went down. I do however think that the strength that I gained from the mdrol would have been a lot tougher to keep had I not been running the AM. It was definitely a fun ride as expected.
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    Oh yes!! Nice cycle man! One day o hope to run AndroMass!

    Let's do this!
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    Hell ya, very excited on this one! Welcome!
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    lol what are your doses and cycle length, how about workout routine, do you have a diet or are you eating dirty? just a couple thoughts dont know how in depth you want to go into during your log.
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    how old are you, how many lbs have you gained prior to this cycle?

    Im down for the cause bro!!!
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    Alright Yesterday was day one didn't have time to make a good intro so I decided to save it for today!
    Forgot to mention the dosing in the intro so will throw it up now. Already have been taking the cycle assist for about a week and a half now.
    Week 1/2
    Mdrol= 10mg
    Andromass= 3-4 caps twice daily
    cycle assist= 8-10 caps/day

    will keep it at this for now and adjust on week 3 according to sides and overall feelings/results.

    Will say I am already hit with minor headaches, was hoping I could sneak by with out any but will up the hawthorn to see if it counteracts.
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    25 yrs of age and 25 lbs in about a year and a half, dont worry I'm not just starting lifting and hopping on the strong sh!t to get big lmao! My starting weight was 143 when I hit the gym.
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    Oh I will go in-depth brother!
    Work out routine= I usually rotate these two routines every month and a half
    chest/tris
    back
    shoulders
    legs
    biceps

    Chest/tris
    back/biceps
    Shoulders/legs

    With the first routine I generally take 2 days of a week scattered if needed extra rest or on sat sun if I have something planned for the weekend.
    The second routine I stick to a 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off. Sometimes it gets changed around according to work and kids but try to stay with that.
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    Diet= Chicken breasts, Red meats, Tuna fish, cottage cheese, bagels, eggs, low fat yogurts, protein shakes, oatmeal, PEANUT BUTTER!!
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    Don't forget to add in the produce.
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    Definitely I try to get some greens, etc in there but it makes it rough when your constantly stuffing your face with protein and carbs lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Oh I will go in-depth brother!
    Work out routine= I usually rotate these two routines every month and a half
    chest/tris
    back
    shoulders
    legs
    biceps

    Chest/tris
    back/biceps
    Shoulders/legs

    With the first routine I generally take 2 days of a week scattered if needed extra rest or on sat sun if I have something planned for the weekend.
    The second routine I stick to a 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off. Sometimes it gets changed around according to work and kids but try to stay with that.
    do you change workouts or just the routine in which you do the workouts, IMO you can keep the same muscle groups each day forever but you do need to change your actual lifts every 2-3 months. ex. switching from barbell to dumbbells, and straight bar curls to ezbar curls.

    how long are you planning on for the whole cycle, its the best idea to make sure you can handle the SD in the first week but i would bump it up to 20mg in the second.

    you should def take before/after pics, especially since this is you first cycle and you should make good gains, also post up some maxes, or heavier lifts to see your strength gains.
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    Ran Hdrol 5 months ago so not the first but will reply to rest of post in a few.
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    Yes I do mix up my work outs a lot as far as bar bell to dumbell etc, as of day 4 which will be monday I will post my exact logs and experiences during workouts too so that you will have a better idea. I have a few logs recently that have my exact weight to workout on them.

    This cycle is planned on an 8 week cycle
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    These were from a few days ago so they will be the befores to use for comparison.
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    Cant post max on each core because its been a while since I maxxed but i will throw out my main lifts at normal reps

    Bench= ~205 at 8 reps
    shoulder press(smith)= ~140 at 8 reps
    squat= 215 at 8 reps
    Deads= 225 at 8 reps
    Lat pulldown= 160 at 8 reps
    Straight bar curl= 95 at 8 reps
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    What's superdrol?
    Lol. Good luck bud!
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    If you get the chance that hammies/tri's one day and the next day try quads/bis. I have to tell ya it was a nice change up for myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Ran Hdrol 5 months ago so not the first but will reply to rest of post in a few.
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    oh sorry no disrespect, the way i read your original post i thought this was your first run...your pretty strong for your size already, way stronger than me lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Srt4Muscle View Post
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    oh sorry no disrespect, the way i read your original post i thought this was your first run...your pretty strong for your size already, way stronger than me lol
    No problem at all man! I give it my all in the gym and push harder then a lot of people bigger then me, my upper body kills it at the gym but my lower half needs serious work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marms View Post
    If you get the chance that hammies/tri's one day and the next day try quads/bis. I have to tell ya it was a nice change up for myself.
    Nice, yea i read that in your log the other day. Definitely going to be living in the gym atleast for the next week being I'm on shutdown from work! :-) So I plan on doing all kinds of crazy sh!t in that period. Will give it a whirl for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Cant post max on each core because its been a while since I maxxed but i will throw out my main lifts at normal reps

    Bench= ~205 at 8 reps
    shoulder press= ~170 at 8 reps
    squat= 215 at 8 reps
    Deads= 225 at 8 reps
    Lat pulldown= 160 at 8 reps
    Straight bar curl= 100 at 8 reps
    man.. My shoulders must be hash... I can only get 175 up like twice... Strong start!
    Man... you gonna get SUPER STRONG!
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    Sorry will edit that is on smith machine. My bad, I prefer to do them on that machine then barbell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Sorry will edit that is on smith machine. My bad, I prefer to do them on that machine then barbell.
    haha, nah no worry. They still shoulder presses!
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    Yea but 170 on smith, about 155 free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Yea but 170 on smith is probably about 155 free.
    ah, you still BEAST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    Yea but 170 on smith is probably about 155 free.
    Are you saying theoretically? Or did you not subtract 30 from the bar? So confused now lol.

    How are those grapefruit burps treating you
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Are you saying theoretically? Or did you not subtract 30 from the bar? So confused now lol.

    How are those grapefruit burps treating you
    He just subtracted 25

    Curious as well on them burps. I have NEVER gotten grapefruit burps. Even on 6 caps of AL+AH at once... Currently on AH I take 3 at a time and get nothing.
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    Was actually just giving the weight that I did last time I had a spotter with free weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Was actually just giving the weight that I did last time I had a spotter with free weight.
    Heh, dang I think you could do more on that smithy then
    Push bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Heh, dang I think you could do more on that smithy then
    Push bro!
    Yea, its been a long time since I've been off the smith though. It was nice having a partner to push for the extra couple reps and if I'm not mistaken I believe that was during my Hdrol run. Just for you I will make someone go out of there way to spot me so I can get a more accurate judgement for this! I plan on hitting 200 by the end of this run on the smith! shoulder's were one body part that got lit on fire during my last cycle!
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    Quick update on the headaches and feeling, just got back from dinner with the family and am pleased to say I haven't had any headaches since this morning. I am feeling very lethargic though and am probably gonna hit the sheets pretty early tonight. Wouldn't say just yet as to whether the product has anything to do with it but I'm beat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Are you saying theoretically? Or did you not subtract 30 from the bar? So confused now lol.

    How are those grapefruit burps treating you
    Man, the burps were so terrible the first day! They haven't been too bad lately but my god I almost lost my dinner last night from them haha. And yea I was just trying to remember what weight I was using the last time I went and did them with a partner. Didn't even know that -30 would be the way you translate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    Quick update on the headaches and feeling, just got back from dinner with the family and am pleased to say I haven't had any headaches since this morning. I am feeling very lethargic though and am probably gonna hit the sheets pretty early tonight. Wouldn't say just yet as to whether the product has anything to do with it but I'm beat!
    Yea. You could be just beat up from over training or lack of sleep. Or maybe not enough vitamin D? Could be a lot of things. Take care man. You grow when you sleep bro.
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    Question about dosing. At the moment I am dosing the Mdrol immediately upon waking up with 3 tabs of andromass. Then taking 3 more andromass about 8 hours later. should I be dosing them at different times? Also should I dose them on an empty stomach or with meals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    Question about dosing. At the moment I am dosing the Mdrol immediately upon waking up with 3 tabs of andromass. Then taking 3 more andromass about 8 hours later. should I be dosing them at different times? Also should I dose them on an empty stomach or with meals?
    I though version three was all at once dosing?
    I would take the mdrol with a meal. Better nutrient partitioning I think.
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    I say you want the biggest anabolic spike as close to your workout as possible, so if you work out in the morning, that would work.
    I try to get my dbol/pbold/sdrol etc in about an hour before the gym with some fats like natty pb and fish oil.
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