LiveToLift will be joining the ranks of the gods (Mdrol/Andromass cycle)

[Srt4Muscle]

Ran Hdrol 5 months ago so not the first but will reply to rest of post in a few.

\

oh sorry no disrespect, the way i read your original post i thought this was your first run...your pretty strong for your size already, way stronger than me lol

[LiveToLift]

\

oh sorry no disrespect, the way i read your original post i thought this was your first run...your pretty strong for your size already, way stronger than me lol

No problem at all man! I give it my all in the gym and push harder then a lot of people bigger then me, my upper body kills it at the gym but my lower half needs serious work!

[LiveToLift]

If you get the chance that hammies/tri's one day and the next day try quads/bis. I have to tell ya it was a nice change up for myself.

Nice, yea i read that in your log the other day. Definitely going to be living in the gym atleast for the next week being I'm on shutdown from work! :-) So I plan on doing all kinds of crazy sh!t in that period. Will give it a whirl for sure.

[NuclearLaunch]

In. Good luck man. Kill it.

[mattrag]

Cant post max on each core because its been a while since I maxxed but i will throw out my main lifts at normal reps

Bench= ~205 at 8 reps
shoulder press= ~170 at 8 reps
squat= 215 at 8 reps
Deads= 225 at 8 reps
Lat pulldown= 160 at 8 reps
Straight bar curl= 100 at 8 reps

man.. My shoulders must be hash... I can only get 175 up like twice... Strong start!
Man... you gonna get SUPER STRONG!

[LiveToLift]

Sorry will edit that is on smith machine. My bad, I prefer to do them on that machine then barbell.

[mattrag]

Sorry will edit that is on smith machine. My bad, I prefer to do them on that machine then barbell.

haha, nah no worry. They still shoulder presses!

[LiveToLift]

Yea but 170 on smith, about 155 free.

[mattrag]

Yea but 170 on smith is probably about 155 free.

ah, you still BEAST!

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Yea but 170 on smith is probably about 155 free.

Are you saying theoretically? Or did you not subtract 30 from the bar? So confused now lol.

How are those grapefruit burps treating you

[mattrag]

Are you saying theoretically? Or did you not subtract 30 from the bar? So confused now lol.

How are those grapefruit burps treating you

He just subtracted 25

Curious as well on them burps. I have NEVER gotten grapefruit burps. Even on 6 caps of AL+AH at once... Currently on AH I take 3 at a time and get nothing.

[LiveToLift]

Was actually just giving the weight that I did last time I had a spotter with free weight.

[mattrag]

Was actually just giving the weight that I did last time I had a spotter with free weight.

Heh, dang I think you could do more on that smithy then
Push bro!

[LiveToLift]

Heh, dang I think you could do more on that smithy then
Push bro!

Yea, its been a long time since I've been off the smith though. It was nice having a partner to push for the extra couple reps and if I'm not mistaken I believe that was during my Hdrol run. Just for you I will make someone go out of there way to spot me so I can get a more accurate judgement for this! I plan on hitting 200 by the end of this run on the smith! shoulder's were one body part that got lit on fire during my last cycle!

[LiveToLift]

Quick update on the headaches and feeling, just got back from dinner with the family and am pleased to say I haven't had any headaches since this morning. I am feeling very lethargic though and am probably gonna hit the sheets pretty early tonight. Wouldn't say just yet as to whether the product has anything to do with it but I'm beat!

[LiveToLift]

Are you saying theoretically? Or did you not subtract 30 from the bar? So confused now lol.

How are those grapefruit burps treating you

Man, the burps were so terrible the first day! They haven't been too bad lately but my god I almost lost my dinner last night from them haha. And yea I was just trying to remember what weight I was using the last time I went and did them with a partner. Didn't even know that -30 would be the way you translate.

[mattrag]

Quick update on the headaches and feeling, just got back from dinner with the family and am pleased to say I haven't had any headaches since this morning. I am feeling very lethargic though and am probably gonna hit the sheets pretty early tonight. Wouldn't say just yet as to whether the product has anything to do with it but I'm beat!

Yea. You could be just beat up from over training or lack of sleep. Or maybe not enough vitamin D? Could be a lot of things. Take care man. You grow when you sleep bro.

[LiveToLift]

Question about dosing. At the moment I am dosing the Mdrol immediately upon waking up with 3 tabs of andromass. Then taking 3 more andromass about 8 hours later. should I be dosing them at different times? Also should I dose them on an empty stomach or with meals?

[mattrag]

Question about dosing. At the moment I am dosing the Mdrol immediately upon waking up with 3 tabs of andromass. Then taking 3 more andromass about 8 hours later. should I be dosing them at different times? Also should I dose them on an empty stomach or with meals?

I though version three was all at once dosing?
I would take the mdrol with a meal. Better nutrient partitioning I think.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

I say you want the biggest anabolic spike as close to your workout as possible, so if you work out in the morning, that would work.
I try to get my dbol/pbold/sdrol etc in about an hour before the gym with some fats like natty pb and fish oil.