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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    Man, the burps were so terrible the first day! They haven't been too bad lately but my god I almost lost my dinner last night from them haha. And yea I was just trying to remember what weight I was using the last time I went and did them with a partner. Didn't even know that -30 would be the way you translate.
    Well basically if you have 2 plates on the bar its 135, and the smith is only 15 lbs, so 135-30 is 105 for 2 plates on the smith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM

    Are you saying theoretically? Or did you not subtract 30 from the bar? So confused now lol.

    How are those grapefruit burps treating you
    Last time I checked the smith machine bar was 15lbs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Srt4Muscle

    Last time I checked the smith machine bar was 15lbs...
    Hence the reason I asked if he subtracted 30 for that purpose
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Hence the reason I asked if he subtracted 30 for that purpose
    yeah and you guys went over it already i was a page back, the phone app jacks me up sometimes. my bad haha merry christmas
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I say you want the biggest anabolic spike as close to your workout as possible, so if you work out in the morning, that would work.
    I try to get my dbol/pbold/sdrol etc in about an hour before the gym with some fats like natty pb and fish oil.
    I have the V2 version at the moment, picking up V3 assuming I dont have any issues on this cycle. The V3 would be ran the last four weeks.

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    I though version three was all at once dosing?
    I would take the mdrol with a meal. Better nutrient partitioning I think.
    Alright, yea I work out in the am generally so it is usually about exactly an hour before I go to the gym. I will remember that though since this week I'm off work and will be going at all different times. What about the with or with out food anyone know if it effects the absorption? I have read somewhere that you have to space your cycle assist 4 hours from hdrol/mdrol dosing didnt know if food had the same concept.
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    Merry Christmas to everyone btw! Will tell you what it's crazy watching your son get the high of presents, you think Christmas isnt the same as you get older but it's more fun watching him open presents and playing them with him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Merry Christmas to everyone btw! Will tell you what it's crazy watching your son get the high of presents, you think Christmas isnt the same as you get older but it's more fun watching him open presents and playing them with him!
    nothing better than when your kids are old enough to enjoy christmas...merry christmas!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    Merry Christmas to everyone btw! Will tell you what it's crazy watching your son get the high of presents, you think Christmas isnt the same as you get older but it's more fun watching him open presents and playing them with him!
    If I had a son I would buy him 10 bottles of mdrol. Everyone knows the best gifts are the ones people won't use so you get them back.
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    Quick update on overall feeling. Woke up feeling amazing! I want to make sure I keep a very open and honest log here so I'm gonna spill a few details. Day one was hell, not going to lie. Feeling was not good, had a stomach ache starting about an hour after first dose. Had on and off headaches all day. Started to read random reviews online and literally freaked myself out. A little off subject but there are some real horror stories on mdrol over on that body builders website. Dont wanna use the actual name ;-). Woke up second day with a tremendous headache I'm talking one that would make you throw up. At this point I really got nervous that this log was gonna be cut down to just an AM log being that I know what compound would be doing these things to me! Took 1 ibuprofen and cycle assist was upped along with hawthorn. Headache diminished and seemed to only come back when I was laying down, odd. By night time the headache was gone but lethargy was kicking my a$$. Let me add I'm now coming off of 3 months of working a stamping plant press leader position with just 3 days off that entire period so I'm blaming the lethargy on that! Woke up this morning and was affraid to see how I would feel...... Excellent! That is all that can describe it, no headache not too sore at all and I'm actually up nearly 3 lbs already. Which is nice because I dont think I've been over 170 in the last 3 months. I'm hoping the feeling I was having was just my body reacting to being hit with such a harsh compound and the storm is over! The show WILL go on!
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    i would def keep the hawberry doses up there, and drink lots of water. i dont think its was the mdrol that was making you sick but i could be wrong. i like to take my supp with food too cause i usually take a vitamin at the same time which makes me sick as **** on a empty stomach. hopefully your in the clear now.
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    Taking an oral steroid with fats should increase absorption. But if its impossible to take it with food cuz of your workout schedule, at least take it with natural peanut butter and/or fish oild. And maybe split the doses so 10mg preworkout and 10 later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
    Taking an oral steroid with fats should increase absorption. But if its impossible to take it with food cuz of your workout schedule, at least take it with natural peanut butter and/or fish oild. And maybe split the doses so 10mg preworkout and 10 later.
    Should you eat the food then take or take then eat food? Or does it really matter?
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    Yea I've been taking it along with fish oils and peanut butter together. I'm only taking 10 mg for the first week, maybe even second week depending on how the gains/sides persist. Thanks flex as always you have answers haha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Srt4Muscle View Post
    i would def keep the hawberry doses up there, and drink lots of water. i dont think its was the mdrol that was making you sick but i could be wrong. i like to take my supp with food too cause i usually take a vitamin at the same time which makes me sick as **** on a empty stomach. hopefully your in the clear now.
    You know thats a very good point I did take it with a multi and also the purps from the AM could very well have been the reason my stomach got upset. I'll tell ya what those purps the first and second day were disgusting. I'm still having them but they are not nearly as bad, almost like I'm just used to them now lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuclearLaunch

    Should you eat the food then take or take then eat food? Or does it really matter?
    I doubt it matters but I would try and take it before the food, so the food can lay on top of it. I don't know if you read anything about Ursobolic (not a PH I know) but people who swallowed it after their food were getting "smoke burps" because the powder would lay on top of the food after the cap dissolved lol...kind of wasting it I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I doubt it matters but I would try and take it before the food, so the food can lay on top of it. I don't know if you read anything about Ursobolic (not a PH I know) but people who swallowed it after their food were getting "smoke burps" because the powder would lay on top of the food after the cap dissolved lol...kind of wasting it I guess.
    Wow man this is weird, just about a month ago I started taking BCAA capsules bc I couldn't stand the powder taste and I started getting these "smoke burps" looked as if I had swallowed a hit of a cig. Will remember this in the future!
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    Sure do love christmas at the ma's, have had enough protein and carbs in the last 3 hours to calm down the cycle hungers for a bit. Can't beat the to go bag that I have for later either! Hope everyone got to enjoy as good of a xmas meal as I did! Love the holidays!
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    Will say, dammmnnn it feels great to get back in the gym today! Went in for a good chest/tri crush topped with an ab burn at the conclusion. I realize Mdrol is a very wet compound but one thing I slacked on while running Hdrol was keeping my mid-section in check, I refuse to make that mistake again! Energy was great, focus was good, strength was about normal. Weight was at 171.6 still 3 lbs up from the start. The pump was amazing, just being less then a week in I was very surprised to all ready notice filling out of the tris and chest. Started with a good solid chest workout, but I think I over killed it because by the time I got to tris muscles were shutting down. Details:

    Flat bench
    1X10 135
    1X8 185
    2X8 205
    1X7 185
    1X7 155

    Incline bench
    1X8 135
    1X8 145
    1X8 150
    1X8 135

    Wide machine
    1X8 180
    2X8 200

    Flat DB fly's
    3X8 45 (Really felt a burn on these, cant usually get 3 full sets at 8 here)

    Weighted dips
    1X5 35
    2X5 25

    Vbar pulldown
    1X5 87.5
    1X5 80

    Ab coaster
    3X20 30lbs
    2X15 20lbs

    Tris were suffering terribly today, not used to that at all. Seems after I killed the fly's my arms felt as if they had just buckled up on me. A bit discouraging. Did start to notice some lower back pain near the end of the workout that is still persisting now, just popped some more taurine to make sure I keep pumps down. Back and bis tomorrow and I'm already ready to crush the gym again tomorrow!
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    I used to have that problem, but with bis/tri day. All my energy would be used up after finishing with bis. So going bi workout then tri workout, you can get more even energy throughout both muscle groups with a rest switching back and forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Srt4Muscle View Post
    I used to have that problem, but with bis/tri day. All my energy would be used up after finishing with bis. So going bi workout then tri workout, you can get more even energy throughout both muscle groups with a rest switching back and forth.
    Yea I've also tried that but felt that i would not get enough emphasis on one or the other so it seemed as if I was just treading water rather then getting stronger, just a little weird that this has never happened to me in a year and a half of doing it. Like i said I think I was just overly excited about being "on" again and burned out my muscles.
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    Yeah its different with chest and tri, I don't like them on the same day for that same reason. I do arms instead...
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    AM V2 will make some very lethargic, it's happening to me now, but just get through it because as soon as you hit the gym you feel amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
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    AM V2 will make some very lethargic, it's happening to me now, but just get through it because as soon as you hit the gym you feel amazing.
    Welcome bro! Yea the lethargy has been off and on but nothing that isn't manageable yet. Wont let it stop me thats for sure.
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    Amazing workout today! Went in for back/bis but had such a good back day today that I couldn't even think about doing anything else. Funny when I got to the gym I didn't feel too "on" but by the time I got done with the first 3 sets I felt strong as hell and the pump was incredible. Weight was also jacked up to 173.5 today, a total of 5 lbs already! Details:

    Lat pulldown (wide)
    1X10 140
    2X8 160
    1X5 162.5
    1X8 140

    Seated row bar (both arms at once, weight is both bars combined)
    1X8 180
    1X8 200
    1X8 210
    1X8 215
    1X8 180

    Dead lifts
    1X8 135
    1X8 185
    1X8 225
    1X5 225

    Low row bar (both combined)
    1X8 180
    1X8 200
    1X8 230
    1X8 180

    Lat pulldown (narrow)
    2X8 160

    Can't believe the energy I had today, I honestly could have done biceps after this workout but was already over an hour and didn't want to completely wear myself out. No sides today so far and feeling is amazing.
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    Nice workout man!
    No sides yet? Sounds good to me
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    One side note! Does anyone following know what could be causing itching as a side effect? For some reason when I get in the gym I have an urge to itch my face neck and chest and normally don't have this problem. It is really annoying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Nice workout man!
    No sides yet? Sounds good to me
    Yea man! Had the headaches at the beginning but like I said I believe my body was just getting used to the compound and I upped my hawthorn and boom they aren't very bad any more. Minor pumps I think yesterday but not long and taurine seemed to help. The workout was amazing and I had that king feeling in the gym that I die for! Cant wait for shoulder day man, that is always my favorite day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    One side note! Does anyone following know what could be causing itching as a side effect? For some reason when I get in the gym I have an urge to itch my face neck and chest and normally don't have this problem. It is really annoying!
    Do you take a pre? Sounds like mild niacin flushing.
    Could be your body had a vitamin deficiency or the sdrol is using more nutrients and the preworkout is slamming your body with it. Kinda like how beta alanin makes us feel when we first start taking it to when we get used to it. Just your body is depleting it at a faster rate making you more susceptible to those type of sides.
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    No preworkout at all man, try not to take in any caffeine when "on". Maybe a cup of coffee here and there but that's it.
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    Or could simply be exercise/stress induced histamine release
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat
    Or could simply be exercise/stress induced histamine release
    This is very likely.
    Especially if all your taking pre gym is water or a small cup of coffee.
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    You could try and take something like claritin, Zyrtec, or a light dose of Benadryl about a half hour or so prior to working out and see if it doesn't help
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    You could try and take something like claritin, Zyrtec, or a light dose of Benadryl about a half hour or so prior to working out and see if it doesn't help
    Think I will just see if it keeps being an issue, it by no means irritates me to the point of throwing another pill into the mix, just thought it was odd that its all of a sudden happening. Didn't know if there was something in the compounds that is known to cause these effects. Thanks guys will keep it in mind.
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    Sounds like you're already having awesome results! Good luck with everything, I'm sure it's gonna work well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevyz28 View Post
    Sounds like you're already having awesome results! Good luck with everything, I'm sure it's gonna work well.
    Hell ya man, not even out of the starting gate so to speak and already showing good results. This is gonna be one hell of a cycle. I'm thinking if this continues I may be one of those 20 lb gainers! especially being that I'm running the AM for about 7-8 weeks. We'll see though, I'm just glad to be at my heaviest point ever right now!
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    A little update, just got confirmation that my purchase of V3 went through this morning and should have it withing 2-6 days. Pretty excited to use this product during the final few weeks, it should compliment this cycle greatly. Everyone take advantage of this new year sale from PP if your interested, its a hell of a deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Hell ya man, not even out of the starting gate so to speak and already showing good results. This is gonna be one hell of a cycle. I'm thinking if this continues I may be one of those 20 lb gainers! especially being that I'm running the AM for about 7-8 weeks. We'll see though, I'm just glad to be at my heaviest point ever right now!
    Thats awesome to hear ! Hope its keeps going as well as its going ! Keep us informed on the itching.
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    Leg day.... Actually had very high energy today, was on a time restriction but still plowed through a hell of a workout. Strength wasn't up but quantity was through the roof. Even though my hams were feeling rough I was able to keep on going. Details:

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    1X8 135
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    1X8 205
    1X8 215
    1X6 185

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    1X10 270
    2X8 320
    1X8 370
    2X6 300

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    2X12 180
    2X10 230
    1X10 180

    Rear kick
    2X10 90
    2X8 135

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    3X15 BW

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    2X20 30 lbs

    Already sore and I was very happy with today's workout, thought since time was an issue it would be a sh!tty day in the gym but I got a boost to kill it and get out. Starting to think the itching is from blood pressure, not sure how that would make any sense but its usually right after I crush my heaviest sets and its usually accompanied with heat. I know what Mattrag said about niacin makes sense being that I had niacin flushes when I was a teen trying to clean out for test's...... but I dont think any product I'm using has niacin besides my multi which isnt a very high dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    Hell ya man, not even out of the starting gate so to speak and already showing good results. This is gonna be one hell of a cycle. I'm thinking if this continues I may be one of those 20 lb gainers! especially being that I'm running the AM for about 7-8 weeks. We'll see though, I'm just glad to be at my heaviest point ever right now!
    I'm pretty sure if you eat enough you will hit 20lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    I'm pretty sure if you eat enough you will hit 20lbs.
    Well I'll take it! If I put on those numbers and wait a month or two and do a cut I'm sure I'll have some pretty shredded results. Goal is to gain weight here but need to make sure a good portion is "valuable" weight.
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