1. Talking testenan/deca/dbol....whoohoo

    Well, in about 12 days I'll be starting my first real cycle so I'll go ahead and start the thread, besides I'm more anxious than bigpetefox when he's downloading internet porn.

    This is what I have on hand and plenty of it:
    Test enan 250
    Nandrolone (deca) 300
    Dbol 50

    I'm figuring a breakdown like this
    Weeks 1-12 Test enan 500mg
    Weeks 1-12 Deca 450mg
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 50mg and maybe weeks 10-14 also

    My goals are to gain as much mass as humanly possible, but realistically, I'm hoping for 15 keepable pounds. PCT will be the usual clomid and nolva deal, starting 2 weeks after last inject. I know HCG is preferred for longer cycles but I'd like to have some idea of how these things feel before I add more **** to the mix.

    My stats:
    Weight: 251
    Height: 6'1"
    Bf% : 14%
    Arms: 19"
    Chest: 49" at nipple level
    Waist: 39"
    Thighs: 29"
    Calves: 16.5"

    Protein: 500grams
    Carbs: 500 grams
    Fats: 150 grams

    But truth be told, I'm going to eat everything in sight, not really focusing on total calories, just protein intake. The figures above are a guesstimate.

    I know most people suggest a test only cycle for the first but my joints are ****ed up as they are and I can't take another torn pec so I'm relying on safety and deca to get me through this.

    Questions that I have for you all:
    1) Letro or Adex for bloat? Which one and why? I won't use either unless I have to but I will have them on hand to avoid that bloated look that I assuredly don't want.

    2) When using letro or adex, I also use low dose nolva, correct?

    3) Is the second run of dbol at the end of cycle a good idea, will it encourage a smoother transition into PCT?

    Suggestions/opinions are welcome and encouraged. Thanks.
    Last edited by Beelzebub; 09-08-2004 at 08:06 AM.

  2. Bump for questions 2 and 3. I already got some letro so I'll be using that. 8 days to go, trying to get all questions answered before the fun begins.

  3. I wish I knew the answers, unfortunatelly I'm not experienced with those substances.
    At any rate, good luck with your cycle.

  4. I am by no means an expert on this, but I have never heard anywhere that nolva must be ran with the letro. As far as the dbol at the end of the cycle, i dont really see how it would hurt, you are already gonna be shut down pretty damn hard, so might as well get some more gains. I know you arent real interested in the HCG, but it might be a good idea to run it the last few weeks of the cycle at least to help you recover quicker.

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