M1T & M4OHN Stack
Firstly, for those who don’t recommend stacking Methyls responsibly, please keep your thoughts to yourself. Guys have been stacking oral AAS for 40 years without incident.
Age: Old enough to hit on your Mom and young enough to kick your ass if you bitch about it :hammer:
Lifting Experience: 25 years on and off (mostly off), last two years religious like a Monk :whip:
Anabolic Experience: Virgin :drunk:
Diet: See below
Training: See below
Height: 6’ 1�
Weight: 223 (update 7/31)
BF%: 25 -yeah, yeah keep reading :rofl: – Measured by hand-held bio-electrical impedance
Goal: Body Recomposition
5 Week Anabolic Cycle
Wks 1-2: 5-7 mgs M1T (cut up 10 mg pills not too accurate since they don’t have a score-line) – Meso Labs, the good stuff laced with DBol :twisted:
Wks 1-5: 12 mgs (wk 1-2) M4OHN going to 16 mgs after M1T is completed – DS powder, suspended in Olive Oil (no, not Popeye’s GF :think: ), 4 mgs/ml
Will take M4OHN at 7:00 AM, 12:00 Noon, 4:00 PM, and the fourth (M1T or M4OHN) at 8:00 PM
R-ALA: 600 mgs/day (helps keep those liver values down)
Hawthorn Berry for high BP if needed
Pre Workout Stack: 2g ALCAR, 1g Chocomine, 1g L-Tyrosine
Phase 1 PTC (25 days)
Custom Nolva: 40 mgs for 10 days, 30 mgs for 10 days, 20 mgs for 5 days
Liver Supps: NAC 500mgs, Milk Thistle 960mgs, Saw Palmetto 160 mgs
Creatine: 10g
Phase 2 PTC (30 days)
1g High Proto Tribulus
1.5g Avena Sativa
ZMA
Clen or ECA if I need to drop lbs :frustrate
OK, with all the preliminaries out of the way here is my background. I just completed a 2.5 year quest to drop 185 lbs. :thumbsup: Used Low Carb (my own plan) to drop the weight. Now that I am at a decent weight (it still feels strange to shop at a “normal� clothing store after spending the last 20 years at 350+ lbs :rant: ), it is time to shift the focus from weight loss to Recomposition. The perfect anabolic stack would be to gain no weight, but drop 3% BF.
This is why M4OHN is the focus. The small dose of M1T is to get the process started since it kicks in quickly, and the M4OHN takes about two weeks to get going. I understand I will get some water gain from M1T and Creatine, but my diet will be tight (hell, dieting is the ONE thing I am great at these days) so I’ll try not to get freaked out by the scale.
Diet
My metabolism is pretty repressed as you can imagine from 2.5 years on a constant diet. My calorie intake has been about 2000 cals, and the only time I tried a higher level (2800) I started gaining. So I am going to try 2300 cals to start with. If I start losing weight, I’ll increase it…….but I WON’T decrease it.
My desired macro nutrient profile is:
70g Fat
220g Carbs (high quality ie whole grains, brown rice when I can)
200g Protein (1.2X lean body mass)
Will eat 3 food meals per day, 1 bar (Detour), and 1 shake (or other high protein snack)
Training
I switch up my program and exercises every month. The first month is Max-OT. I normally do Max-OT on a 3 day split, working bodyparts once a week, ramping up from 6-9 sets per bodypart through the 4 week period, via the Big Beyond Belief theory.
I think where a lot of guy’s anabolic cycles give less than anticipated results is due to them NOT taking advantage of the increased recovery ability available to them through chemistry, like DC says the more growth opportunities (workouts) you have, the more growth you will get (understanding the goal is to stimulate, not annihilate….Lee Haney) as long as your recovery ability is up to the challenge.
So my Max-OT split THIS time will be a 2 way split for the first two weeks working bodyparts TWICE a week albeit with reduced number of sets per workout (4 for the first week rater than the standard 6…..but at twice a week each bodypart will see 8 sets per week, a work increase of 30%)
The second two weeks will be a 3 way split, still working bodyparts twice a week (so I will workout 6 days a week during this segment).
The last anabolic week will be spent on HIT, I’ll cover that later.
Firstly, for those who don’t recommend stacking Methyls responsibly, please keep your thoughts to yourself. Guys have been stacking oral AAS for 40 years without incident.
Age: Old enough to hit on your Mom and young enough to kick your ass if you bitch about it :hammer:
Lifting Experience: 25 years on and off (mostly off), last two years religious like a Monk :whip:
Anabolic Experience: Virgin :drunk:
Diet: See below
Training: See below
Height: 6’ 1�
Weight: 223 (update 7/31)
BF%: 25 -yeah, yeah keep reading :rofl: – Measured by hand-held bio-electrical impedance
Goal: Body Recomposition
5 Week Anabolic Cycle
Wks 1-2: 5-7 mgs M1T (cut up 10 mg pills not too accurate since they don’t have a score-line) – Meso Labs, the good stuff laced with DBol :twisted:
Wks 1-5: 12 mgs (wk 1-2) M4OHN going to 16 mgs after M1T is completed – DS powder, suspended in Olive Oil (no, not Popeye’s GF :think: ), 4 mgs/ml
Will take M4OHN at 7:00 AM, 12:00 Noon, 4:00 PM, and the fourth (M1T or M4OHN) at 8:00 PM
R-ALA: 600 mgs/day (helps keep those liver values down)
Hawthorn Berry for high BP if needed
Pre Workout Stack: 2g ALCAR, 1g Chocomine, 1g L-Tyrosine
Phase 1 PTC (25 days)
Custom Nolva: 40 mgs for 10 days, 30 mgs for 10 days, 20 mgs for 5 days
Liver Supps: NAC 500mgs, Milk Thistle 960mgs, Saw Palmetto 160 mgs
Creatine: 10g
Phase 2 PTC (30 days)
1g High Proto Tribulus
1.5g Avena Sativa
ZMA
Clen or ECA if I need to drop lbs :frustrate
OK, with all the preliminaries out of the way here is my background. I just completed a 2.5 year quest to drop 185 lbs. :thumbsup: Used Low Carb (my own plan) to drop the weight. Now that I am at a decent weight (it still feels strange to shop at a “normal� clothing store after spending the last 20 years at 350+ lbs :rant: ), it is time to shift the focus from weight loss to Recomposition. The perfect anabolic stack would be to gain no weight, but drop 3% BF.
This is why M4OHN is the focus. The small dose of M1T is to get the process started since it kicks in quickly, and the M4OHN takes about two weeks to get going. I understand I will get some water gain from M1T and Creatine, but my diet will be tight (hell, dieting is the ONE thing I am great at these days) so I’ll try not to get freaked out by the scale.
Diet
My metabolism is pretty repressed as you can imagine from 2.5 years on a constant diet. My calorie intake has been about 2000 cals, and the only time I tried a higher level (2800) I started gaining. So I am going to try 2300 cals to start with. If I start losing weight, I’ll increase it…….but I WON’T decrease it.
My desired macro nutrient profile is:
70g Fat
220g Carbs (high quality ie whole grains, brown rice when I can)
200g Protein (1.2X lean body mass)
Will eat 3 food meals per day, 1 bar (Detour), and 1 shake (or other high protein snack)
Training
I switch up my program and exercises every month. The first month is Max-OT. I normally do Max-OT on a 3 day split, working bodyparts once a week, ramping up from 6-9 sets per bodypart through the 4 week period, via the Big Beyond Belief theory.
I think where a lot of guy’s anabolic cycles give less than anticipated results is due to them NOT taking advantage of the increased recovery ability available to them through chemistry, like DC says the more growth opportunities (workouts) you have, the more growth you will get (understanding the goal is to stimulate, not annihilate….Lee Haney) as long as your recovery ability is up to the challenge.
So my Max-OT split THIS time will be a 2 way split for the first two weeks working bodyparts TWICE a week albeit with reduced number of sets per workout (4 for the first week rater than the standard 6…..but at twice a week each bodypart will see 8 sets per week, a work increase of 30%)
The second two weeks will be a 3 way split, still working bodyparts twice a week (so I will workout 6 days a week during this segment).
The last anabolic week will be spent on HIT, I’ll cover that later.
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