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    Schwellingtons PCT


    okay, i have had this up my sleave

    pct begins in 2 days.

    it will be 6 weeks long


    i will be saving masteron prop for a future run, when i cycle again it will probably be another cut to really get lean


    here is diet/training layout
    split
    day 1 chest/abs/cardio
    day 2 off
    day 3 legs/arms
    day 4 cardio
    day 5 back/shoulders
    day6 cardio
    day 7-repeat.

    diet- on days with weights AND cardio-3000 calories
    carbs-150 (from fruits/beans NO GRAINS)
    protein-350
    fats-100
    on days with just weights-2800 calories
    carbs-100
    protein 350
    fats-100
    on off(cardio days) 2500 calories
    carbs-50
    protein 300-350
    fats-80-100
    refeed days are out of the picture- as I now have carbs consistently in the diet there is no need for them

    reps will be lowerd to the 8 rep range

    diet- fruits, olive oil/almond butter/eggs for fats
    protein- chicken/eggs/whey/LEAN beef/fish for protein


    supplements
    clomiphene
    phytoserms
    Ostarine-15mgs ed
    CJC 1295 WITH DAC
    creatine/bcaa/multi etc.


    next cycle- is no sooner than august/september- but probably round OCT.
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    in... have you been using any hcg while on?
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
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    yes of course hcg has been being used. This last week though HCG is upped for a little kick. last week-600mcg of hcg 2x a week.

    oh yesterday and today I have been eating whatever i want. yep tomorrow im back to the torture house, this is more of a pct/schwellington continues to lean out log. so yuh.


    Its easter sunday and yesterday i decided i need some CNS rest/ body needs ALL the fuel it can get for pct, so i carbed up to give my body some extra fuel going into pct- morry did this too, and i talked with him in length on phone(yuh i known that boy since kindergarden yuh we go way back)

    and so yuh

    ostarine BURNS fat like tren- seriously it does, it can also raise Estro. hence during my whole ostarine run, i will be using exemestane



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    LOL good .. when u getting bloodwork?
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
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    bloodwork will be done 4 weeks after pct so in about 10 weeks total? yep- although cholesterol levels will take more than just 4 weeks to lower 2 weeks ago ldl was 150 points high and HDL was 50 points low



    but with medication doc gave me and the roids out of my system im gunna do this

    get bloods done on LH/FSH/ Total Test/Free test- 4 wks after pct, then 4-6 wks after get a lipid panel done- my liver is fine, i still have the bloodwork in my room- the liver enzymes where mildly elevated- minor the doc said it was fine



    so there we have it. Today ate and ate and ate to fuel body for pct tomorrow- back to diet outline above, with chest/abs/cardio
    caloric intake will be 3000 as i will probably created an 800 calorie deficit with the workout alone
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    just comin back down from a 2 day binge on FOOD. Ate ALOT to fuel up body for pct

    cause in pct the leaning out is oging to continue- just much more moderately, and after pct the cut will continue with ostarine/ghrp/cjc


    feeling fine so far, today is chest/abs/cardio
    calories
    pro-350
    carb-150
    fat-100


    yuh
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    im really not too worried about pct, really i think i will recover absolutely fine. Saying im never going to recover from 5 months of AAS is IMO an overstatement- but hey we will find out right?

    UPDATE
    started using MOrrys split- had to take weight down considerable because this split is unlike anything I have ever done- intensity was outrageous. Im not worried about weight coming down for this split ITS INTENSE!!! It is identical to morry's split

    Chest
    10 mintues foam roller on legs/back- these where the tightest this loosend em up good.
    stretching for 2 minutes
    this is split name LIGHT BBELL/Heavydumbell
    warmup 135x10
    215x10 supersetted with 95lb dumbell x 3 reps
    205x9 superset 80lbdumbellx5
    205x8supersets 80lb dumbell x3
    205x7 superset 80lb dumbell x3
    rest inbetween these was onlyu about 20 seconds- just enough to catch my breath- i was drenched by the end of this YUH!
    incline dumbell press- moderiate weights 70lbsx9x9x5(failed out)

    calves/abs

    Cardio


    this new split totally shocked my muscles- and im loving it i can tell that even though i lowered weight my chest really got hit hard so im excited here.

    tomorrow back/shoulders
    wensday-legs/arms
    thursday-off(working)
    friday chest again- when I hit chest again it will be reverse- HEAVY BBELL(280x3) and light dumbells for reps(60x10) this enables me to hit the muscle group 2x in 7 days, AND it incoprerates a heavy bbell/light dumbell and light bbell/heavy dumbell


    yuh


    so far so good ostarine to be added in soon- diet has been on point


    so far mood is fine, libido fine, muscle retention- fine


    yuh
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    whoa that split was non stop and 20 sec rest?? sounds really sick

    keep it going and im watching both of you and morrys logs since my pct is only 2 weeks away
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    yeah dude this split is like no other, im guna do his back split today should be epic


    today is back/shoulders gentlemen with cardio of course
    calories 3000


    should leave me netting about 2100 calories after all is said and done
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    LoL so you finally came off. Didn't expect that tbh. Good luck with pct. How were the gainz?
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    PPost cycle? like after your cycle is over??? Im lost
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    nah i cut it short- it was deminishing returns at this point i was just hurting myself, so i decided to pct, and hop back on in about 5-6 months
    im in pct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    LoL so you finally came off. Didn't expect that tbh. Good luck with pct. How were the gainz?
    gains where excellent up until about the end of the 4th month. (was on for about 5 months and a week)
    then i decided its pointless, and no matter how much gear i used it wasn't going to be doing anything beneficial

    gains-17lbs lbm
    fat lost-12 lbs
    good cycle i thinks

    in the future my cycles will be no longer than 16 wks and probably kept to 14


    yup- pct so far so good, but its just getting started so we shall see
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    OMG EPIC UPDATE
    LEG/ARM/CARDIO super splitttt

    Squats(with less than 20 seconds rest between these)
    45x15
    135x15
    225x10- super set with 21's(bicep) 50lbs
    315x10(squat) superset with 21's 50lbs
    385x6(superset with 21's) 30lbs
    315x6(squat)
    took a 90 second break then hit the next circut- only 20 seconds in between these too
    tricep rope pulldowns 70x12
    behind head tricep ext. 50x10
    lunges 50x14
    tri rope pulldowns 80x10
    behind head 50x10
    lunges 45lbs x 10
    tri rope pulldown 90x10
    tri behind head ext 50x9
    lunges

    took 90 seconds

    3rd circut same- 20 seconds rest between these
    leg ext 185x12
    concentration curls 20x12
    leg ext 210x12
    con curls 25x9
    leg ext. 275x10
    con curls-20x10

    omg was soaking at this point

    same **** 20 second wait between sets
    hamstring curls 115x12
    tricep dip machine 190x12
    hamstring curls 135x10
    tricep machine 210x10
    hamstring curls 135x10
    tricep machine(dips) 210x8

    bicep burn out

    incline curls/hammers- to failure


    i really didnt want to do cardio i was so beat- but i did anyways


    probably burnt damn near 1k calories this session- winning


    ostarine will be here day after tomorrow.

    ghrp-2 is coming soon too
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    yeah dude, im in love- this split is so brutal, I wish i had used it while ON, but i will next cycle in like october.....omg


    im gunna keep leaning out/building mass


    here is plan for next 4 months

    pct/ostarine(this next month)
    ostarine/ghrp-2 for a month after pct
    then 2 months out of pct
    S-4/Ostarine/cjc for another- 2 months

    then a light pct

    then a cycle

    along with this insane split/honed in diet- epic win
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    yeah dude, im in love- this split is so brutal, I wish i had used it while ON, but i will next cycle in like october.....omg


    im gunna keep leaning out/building mass


    here is plan for next 4 months

    pct/ostarine(this next month)
    ostarine/ghrp-2 for a month after pct
    then 2 months out of pct
    S-4/Ostarine/cjc for another- 2 months

    then a light pct

    then a cycle

    along with this insane split/honed in diet- epic win
    That sounds like a good plan to me Schwell. Kill that ****!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    yeah dude, im in love- this split is so brutal, I wish i had used it while ON, but i will next cycle in like october.....omg


    im gunna keep leaning out/building mass


    here is plan for next 4 months

    pct/ostarine(this next month)
    ostarine/ghrp-2 for a month after pct
    then 2 months out of pct
    S-4/Ostarine/cjc for another- 2 months

    then a light pct

    then a cycle

    along with this insane split/honed in diet- epic win
    I would modify this. I would start your peptides now and run them until your next cycle.

    CJC/GHRP-2 3x per day on lifting days (AM, PWO, and before bed). On your off days get some PEG MGF and dose at 300-400mcg in place of your PWO dose, while dosing the CJC/GHRP-2 in the AM and PM. MGF is a form of IGF1 and works in response to damaged muscle tissue. By dosing this on your off days you are effectively extending your anabolic window of opportunity. Pretty sweet. Do this while running your SARMS.

    I think you'll see better results doing this than you will with what you have outlined above. GHRP and CJC take a bit to exert their effects which is why i think you should start them a bit sooner.

    Also, Add in Huperzine A and Green Tea Extract (EGCG). Hup A at 200mcg per day. It's a cheap supplement you can find online. It blocks somatostatin, which is known to block/blunt GH release. and the EGCG around 200-500mg per day.
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    Ugh that all sounds awful haha. Id expect you to lose a good deal of strength switching to a volume routine like this so quickly off cycle from a more power routine but hey you're goin for the ideal look right? better to look like a monster outside the gym than in imo
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    UPDATE

    back /shoulders 20-45 seconds rest between sets on this first circut
    deadlifts45x20
    225x12super set dumbell military 65lbsx12
    deads 295x12 superset military pres 75lbsx12
    deads 315x10 same military press 75x10
    deads 215x15

    omg

    circut two
    lat pulldowns 185x10 supersetted with closegrip pulldowns 165x8 barbell raises 40x10
    lat puldown 195x10 supperset closegrop 165x8 barbell raises 40x10
    lat puldown 185super set closegrip 150x10 then barbell raises 40lbsx10
    lat puldown 150x10 superset closegrop 125x10 barbell raises 40lbsx10


    circut three
    closegrip rows 120x10 superset upright row 95x10
    same
    same


    cardio- 25 minutes heart rate-150-160


    good workout? YUH
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    hmmm i weigh about 230 which is interesting to me- im just as lean(got ALOT of loose skin, not happy bout this) and i know im killing it in the gym
    diet has been 3000 calories with
    100-150 grams of carbs (black/pinto beans and apples)
    350 grams protein
    110-120 grams of fat.
    i do cardio 7x a week(some form on off days like today I work and i am on my feet for 8-15 hours) so im not getting it- diet is clean no cheats- i have a habit of waking up in the middle of night and eating- but its organic pb- perhaps i will cut this out, and cut carbs down a bit and see- or should I keep cals at 3k cause in pct- and once pct done then drop em to round 2800?


    decisions decisions- im not getting fat, but i would like to burn fat while retaining muscle in pct which is possible I feel with ostarine- with a mild cut like this..... opinions please
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    hmmm i weigh about 230 which is interesting to me- im just as lean(got ALOT of loose skin, not happy bout this) and i know im killing it in the gym
    diet has been 3000 calories with
    100-150 grams of carbs (black/pinto beans and apples)
    350 grams protein
    110-120 grams of fat.
    i do cardio 7x a week(some form on off days like today I work and i am on my feet for 8-15 hours) so im not getting it- diet is clean no cheats- i have a habit of waking up in the middle of night and eating- but its organic pb- perhaps i will cut this out, and cut carbs down a bit and see- or should I keep cals at 3k cause in pct- and once pct done then drop em to round 2800?


    decisions decisions- im not getting fat, but i would like to burn fat while retaining muscle in pct which is possible I feel with ostarine- with a mild cut like this..... opinions please
    When are you eating your carbs? maybe the focus should be on nutrient timing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    When are you eating your carbs? maybe the focus should be on nutrient timing.
    I have a red apple first thing in the morning with breakfast,
    another apple bout 30-60 minutes before I train
    then one postworkout
    and some beans with the meal after my pwo meal

    carbs are basically in morning and around workout time
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    I have a red apple first thing in the morning with breakfast,
    another apple bout 30-60 minutes before I train
    then one postworkout
    and some beans with the meal after my pwo meal

    carbs are basically in morning and around workout time
    It's well known that fructose doesn't do much for insulin response (google fructose and insulin, tons of $hit)

    http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/6/2963

    You have the timing right. I too would only ever do carbs AM, pre, and post workout. AM meal should be something like oats/sweet potatoes for carb source.

    As far as pre/post workout i think you have a couple of options. Just depends on how you want to set it up.

    Option 1:
    slow digesting carb preworkout like oats/sweet potatoes(75-60min before lift)and again immediately postWO

    Option 2: fast digesting carb preworkout like maltodextrin/dextrose/waxy (15min-30min before lift) and again immediately postWO

    Option 3: slow or fast digesting carb preworkout and then slow or fast digesting carb post workout

    There are different benefits to each, but regardless I think those slower digesting carbs will do more for your metabolism.
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    but fructose replinish the liver, and is a simple natural carb(my body has a hard time breaking carbs down) hence why i use it and not grains. My body hates grains despises them.

    maybe wut I do is this.

    beans preworkout and apple post

    i dont want insulin spike atm- yes its very anabolic, but it also causes fat secretion correct?(im not certain on this which is why i ask)
    although....I do seem to respond well to waxi- see my body has a hard time digesting complex carbs- which is why I use them in bulking only really.


    so maybe wut i do is.

    apple morning
    black beans pre
    waxi post
    which would net me roung 75 grams of carbs roughly which is good...... im keeping carbs 100-150 tops


    gives me food for thought for sure
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    although after reading that study im intrigued by leptin, and its effects in metabolism....hmmmmmmm thought

    maybe
    oats(1 serving) NO MILK in morning,
    apple pre workout
    waxi post


    i could incorperate oats in and see how it effects the body at a small amount of oats every day like 1-2...... interesting i think i will try this for two weeks and see what happens

    in fact- wow, the study here is interesting...... very very interesting to me, while it is a SMALL study(meaning it cannot relate to everyone as everyone's body responds differently) it still has proof of leptin levels which is directly linked with reduced adipose. So oats....hmmm okay guna try this out.

    1/2 cup oats morning
    1/2cup oats preworkout
    waxi post workout....

    but still doesnt insulin secrete fat? thats my only concern here- im trying to keep insulin levels low
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    but fructose replinish the liver, and is a simple natural carb(my body has a hard time breaking carbs down) hence why i use it and not grains. My body hates grains despises them.

    maybe wut I do is this.

    beans preworkout and apple post

    i dont want insulin spike atm- yes its very anabolic, but it also causes fat secretion correct?(im not certain on this which is why i ask)
    although....I do seem to respond well to waxi- see my body has a hard time digesting complex carbs- which is why I use them in bulking only really.


    so maybe wut i do is.

    apple morning
    black beans pre
    waxi post
    which would net me roung 75 grams of carbs roughly which is good...... im keeping carbs 100-150 tops


    gives me food for thought for sure
    insulin is a storage hormone yes, and can be responsible for fat accumulation. But, if insulin spikes are done properly you can avoid that and use insulin's shuttling capacity to shuttle nutrients into muscle post exercise.

    I like that a little better. I'm not sold on waxi's effectiveness. I still like doing dextrose or maltodextrin (or even better, kids cereal that doesn't contain HFCS - it's low fat and is just plain sugar). Also make sure your PWO meals are extremely low in fat....like 3g or less. They will get in the way and slow down the absorption of protein and carbs.

    My thinking is usually: AM - slow carbs, PreWO - slow carbs, PostWO - fast carbs
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    Check these out when you get the time, will def give you a better understanding of insulin and give you some things to think about

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...-fat-loss.html

    http://gettingstronger.org/2011/02/d...-make-you-fat/

    http://www.medbio.info/Horn/PDF%20fi...ostasis_2a.pdf (this is long, but will be worth the read)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    insulin is a storage hormone yes, and can be responsible for fat accumulation. But, if insulin spikes are done properly you can avoid that and use insulin's shuttling capacity to shuttle nutrients into muscle post exercise.

    I like that a little better. I'm not sold on waxi's effectiveness. I still like doing dextrose or maltodextrin (or even better, kids cereal that doesn't contain HFCS - it's low fat and is just plain sugar). Also make sure your PWO meals are extremely low in fat....like 3g or less. They will get in the way and slow down the absorption of protein and carbs.

    My thinking is usually: AM - slow carbs, PreWO - slow carbs, PostWO - fast carbs
    I agree here.. Same with the low fat post workout. DH, what specific cereal do you do post w/o? And how about milk post w/o?

    Also do you do really low fat pre w/o, or do you not watch it so much as post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    I agree here.. Same with the low fat post workout. DH, what specific cereal do you do post w/o? And how about milk post w/o?

    Also do you do really low fat pre w/o, or do you not watch it so much as post.
    Just depends. Recently i've been doing honey nut cheerios mixed with my whey protein. Pour cereal into bowl, add water, mix whey. Bottom line is to check the ingredient label before you buy....i get the one's that are ZERO grams of fat and no HFCS

    Absolutely no milk post workout. The lactose and casein proteins will slow everything down.

    Actually now that you mention it the last week or so my pre and post workout meals have been almost the same macro wise. 0-2g F, 50g C, 30-50g P
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    i have WPI with NO fats post workout, usually my preworkout consists of an apple w wpi bcaa's intra(cardio)

    although im swtiching to a more balanced diet 150 g carbs 100g fats 350 g protein- this is roughly the same diet I used last summer to cut, and i got lean lean lean(although I have added in 40g more fat and 100g more protein to help maintain muscle mass)


    so tomorrow is chest again HEAVY bbell light dumbell

    guna be 275x3 super setted with 70lb dumbells etc


    lets see how strengths holding


    so far no problems- libido is actually higher than it was on cycle energy levels good and mood is fine, while this DOES NOT mean im okay(only bloods will tell) they are hopeful signs
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    Ostarine is in town should be delivered today.

    will start it,

    pics coming on sunday
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