- 04-24-2011, 12:04 AM
okay, i have had this up my sleave
pct begins in 2 days.
it will be 6 weeks long
i will be saving masteron prop for a future run, when i cycle again it will probably be another cut to really get lean
here is diet/training layout
day 1 chest/abs/cardio
day 2 off
day 3 legs/arms
day 4 cardio
day 5 back/shoulders
diet- on days with weights AND cardio-3000 calories
carbs-150 (from fruits/beans NO GRAINS)
on days with just weights-2800 calories
on off(cardio days) 2500 calories
refeed days are out of the picture- as I now have carbs consistently in the diet there is no need for them
reps will be lowerd to the 8 rep range
diet- fruits, olive oil/almond butter/eggs for fats
protein- chicken/eggs/whey/LEAN beef/fish for protein
CJC 1295 WITH DAC
next cycle- is no sooner than august/september- but probably round OCT.Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
- 04-24-2011, 12:16 AM
- 04-24-2011, 12:34 AM
Subbed Schwell. Show the haters that you can keep those gains and bounce back too!Recoverbro Elite"This is what we've been working on"
04-24-2011, 03:59 PM
04-24-2011, 04:07 PM
Badda boom badda bing!!
I give a f**K!!
04-24-2011, 06:42 PM
yes of course hcg has been being used. This last week though HCG is upped for a little kick. last week-600mcg of hcg 2x a week.
oh yesterday and today I have been eating whatever i want. yep tomorrow im back to the torture house, this is more of a pct/schwellington continues to lean out log. so yuh.
Its easter sunday and yesterday i decided i need some CNS rest/ body needs ALL the fuel it can get for pct, so i carbed up to give my body some extra fuel going into pct- morry did this too, and i talked with him in length on phone(yuh i known that boy since kindergarden yuh we go way back)
and so yuh
ostarine BURNS fat like tren- seriously it does, it can also raise Estro. hence during my whole ostarine run, i will be using exemestane
04-24-2011, 10:01 PM
04-25-2011, 12:39 AM
bloodwork will be done 4 weeks after pct so in about 10 weeks total? yep- although cholesterol levels will take more than just 4 weeks to lower 2 weeks ago ldl was 150 points high and HDL was 50 points low
but with medication doc gave me and the roids out of my system im gunna do this
get bloods done on LH/FSH/ Total Test/Free test- 4 wks after pct, then 4-6 wks after get a lipid panel done- my liver is fine, i still have the bloodwork in my room- the liver enzymes where mildly elevated- minor the doc said it was fine
so there we have it. Today ate and ate and ate to fuel body for pct tomorrow- back to diet outline above, with chest/abs/cardio
caloric intake will be 3000 as i will probably created an 800 calorie deficit with the workout alone
04-25-2011, 08:40 AM
04-25-2011, 08:45 AM
sub'd. what's goodie schwell?
04-25-2011, 12:54 PM
just comin back down from a 2 day binge on FOOD. Ate ALOT to fuel up body for pct
cause in pct the leaning out is oging to continue- just much more moderately, and after pct the cut will continue with ostarine/ghrp/cjc
feeling fine so far, today is chest/abs/cardio
04-25-2011, 03:30 PM
keep up the good work bro
04-25-2011, 09:44 PM
Serious Nutrition Solutions
04-25-2011, 09:57 PM
im really not too worried about pct, really i think i will recover absolutely fine. Saying im never going to recover from 5 months of AAS is IMO an overstatement- but hey we will find out right?
started using MOrrys split- had to take weight down considerable because this split is unlike anything I have ever done- intensity was outrageous. Im not worried about weight coming down for this split ITS INTENSE!!! It is identical to morry's split
10 mintues foam roller on legs/back- these where the tightest this loosend em up good.
stretching for 2 minutes
this is split name LIGHT BBELL/Heavydumbell
215x10 supersetted with 95lb dumbell x 3 reps
205x9 superset 80lbdumbellx5
205x8supersets 80lb dumbell x3
205x7 superset 80lb dumbell x3
rest inbetween these was onlyu about 20 seconds- just enough to catch my breath- i was drenched by the end of this YUH!
incline dumbell press- moderiate weights 70lbsx9x9x5(failed out)
this new split totally shocked my muscles- and im loving it i can tell that even though i lowered weight my chest really got hit hard so im excited here.
friday chest again- when I hit chest again it will be reverse- HEAVY BBELL(280x3) and light dumbells for reps(60x10) this enables me to hit the muscle group 2x in 7 days, AND it incoprerates a heavy bbell/light dumbell and light bbell/heavy dumbell
so far so good ostarine to be added in soon- diet has been on point
so far mood is fine, libido fine, muscle retention- fine
04-26-2011, 12:06 PM
whoa that split was non stop and 20 sec rest?? sounds really sick
keep it going and im watching both of you and morrys logs since my pct is only 2 weeks away
Halovar Epol cycle log" PAIN IS WEAKNESS LEAVING THE BODY"
04-26-2011, 12:20 PM
yeah dude this split is like no other, im guna do his back split today should be epic
today is back/shoulders gentlemen with cardio of course
should leave me netting about 2100 calories after all is said and done
04-26-2011, 02:07 PM
04-26-2011, 03:30 PM
PPost cycle? like after your cycle is over??? Im lost
04-26-2011, 03:59 PM
nah i cut it short- it was deminishing returns at this point i was just hurting myself, so i decided to pct, and hop back on in about 5-6 months
im in pct!
04-26-2011, 04:01 PM
then i decided its pointless, and no matter how much gear i used it wasn't going to be doing anything beneficial
fat lost-12 lbs
good cycle i thinks
in the future my cycles will be no longer than 16 wks and probably kept to 14
yup- pct so far so good, but its just getting started so we shall see
04-26-2011, 04:24 PM
In bro, keep up the hard work and dedication
04-26-2011, 08:15 PM
OMG EPIC UPDATE
LEG/ARM/CARDIO super splitttt
Squats(with less than 20 seconds rest between these)
225x10- super set with 21's(bicep) 50lbs
315x10(squat) superset with 21's 50lbs
385x6(superset with 21's) 30lbs
took a 90 second break then hit the next circut- only 20 seconds in between these too
tricep rope pulldowns 70x12
behind head tricep ext. 50x10
tri rope pulldowns 80x10
behind head 50x10
lunges 45lbs x 10
tri rope pulldown 90x10
tri behind head ext 50x9
took 90 seconds
3rd circut same- 20 seconds rest between these
leg ext 185x12
concentration curls 20x12
leg ext 210x12
con curls 25x9
leg ext. 275x10
omg was soaking at this point
same **** 20 second wait between sets
hamstring curls 115x12
tricep dip machine 190x12
hamstring curls 135x10
tricep machine 210x10
hamstring curls 135x10
tricep machine(dips) 210x8
bicep burn out
incline curls/hammers- to failure
i really didnt want to do cardio i was so beat- but i did anyways
probably burnt damn near 1k calories this session- winning
ostarine will be here day after tomorrow.
ghrp-2 is coming soon too
04-26-2011, 11:19 PM
Now that's some intense ****....
04-27-2011, 12:43 AM
yeah dude, im in love- this split is so brutal, I wish i had used it while ON, but i will next cycle in like october.....omg
im gunna keep leaning out/building mass
here is plan for next 4 months
pct/ostarine(this next month)
ostarine/ghrp-2 for a month after pct
then 2 months out of pct
S-4/Ostarine/cjc for another- 2 months
then a light pct
then a cycle
along with this insane split/honed in diet- epic win
04-27-2011, 05:44 AM
04-27-2011, 10:05 AM
CJC/GHRP-2 3x per day on lifting days (AM, PWO, and before bed). On your off days get some PEG MGF and dose at 300-400mcg in place of your PWO dose, while dosing the CJC/GHRP-2 in the AM and PM. MGF is a form of IGF1 and works in response to damaged muscle tissue. By dosing this on your off days you are effectively extending your anabolic window of opportunity. Pretty sweet. Do this while running your SARMS.
I think you'll see better results doing this than you will with what you have outlined above. GHRP and CJC take a bit to exert their effects which is why i think you should start them a bit sooner.
Also, Add in Huperzine A and Green Tea Extract (EGCG). Hup A at 200mcg per day. It's a cheap supplement you can find online. It blocks somatostatin, which is known to block/blunt GH release. and the EGCG around 200-500mg per day.
04-27-2011, 10:05 AM
Ugh that all sounds awful haha. Id expect you to lose a good deal of strength switching to a volume routine like this so quickly off cycle from a more power routine but hey you're goin for the ideal look right? better to look like a monster outside the gym than in imo
04-27-2011, 10:31 PM
back /shoulders 20-45 seconds rest between sets on this first circut
225x12super set dumbell military 65lbsx12
deads 295x12 superset military pres 75lbsx12
deads 315x10 same military press 75x10
lat pulldowns 185x10 supersetted with closegrip pulldowns 165x8 barbell raises 40x10
lat puldown 195x10 supperset closegrop 165x8 barbell raises 40x10
lat puldown 185super set closegrip 150x10 then barbell raises 40lbsx10
lat puldown 150x10 superset closegrop 125x10 barbell raises 40lbsx10
closegrip rows 120x10 superset upright row 95x10
cardio- 25 minutes heart rate-150-160
good workout? YUH
04-28-2011, 10:47 AM
hmmm i weigh about 230 which is interesting to me- im just as lean(got ALOT of loose skin, not happy bout this) and i know im killing it in the gym
diet has been 3000 calories with
100-150 grams of carbs (black/pinto beans and apples)
350 grams protein
110-120 grams of fat.
i do cardio 7x a week(some form on off days like today I work and i am on my feet for 8-15 hours) so im not getting it- diet is clean no cheats- i have a habit of waking up in the middle of night and eating- but its organic pb- perhaps i will cut this out, and cut carbs down a bit and see- or should I keep cals at 3k cause in pct- and once pct done then drop em to round 2800?
decisions decisions- im not getting fat, but i would like to burn fat while retaining muscle in pct which is possible I feel with ostarine- with a mild cut like this..... opinions please
04-28-2011, 10:54 AM
04-28-2011, 10:58 AM
04-28-2011, 11:09 AM
You have the timing right. I too would only ever do carbs AM, pre, and post workout. AM meal should be something like oats/sweet potatoes for carb source.
As far as pre/post workout i think you have a couple of options. Just depends on how you want to set it up.
slow digesting carb preworkout like oats/sweet potatoes(75-60min before lift)and again immediately postWO
Option 2: fast digesting carb preworkout like maltodextrin/dextrose/waxy (15min-30min before lift) and again immediately postWO
Option 3: slow or fast digesting carb preworkout and then slow or fast digesting carb post workout
There are different benefits to each, but regardless I think those slower digesting carbs will do more for your metabolism.
04-28-2011, 11:38 AM
but fructose replinish the liver, and is a simple natural carb(my body has a hard time breaking carbs down) hence why i use it and not grains. My body hates grains despises them.
maybe wut I do is this.
beans preworkout and apple post
i dont want insulin spike atm- yes its very anabolic, but it also causes fat secretion correct?(im not certain on this which is why i ask)
although....I do seem to respond well to waxi- see my body has a hard time digesting complex carbs- which is why I use them in bulking only really.
so maybe wut i do is.
black beans pre
which would net me roung 75 grams of carbs roughly which is good...... im keeping carbs 100-150 tops
gives me food for thought for sure
04-28-2011, 11:42 AM
although after reading that study im intrigued by leptin, and its effects in metabolism....hmmmmmmm thought
oats(1 serving) NO MILK in morning,
apple pre workout
i could incorperate oats in and see how it effects the body at a small amount of oats every day like 1-2...... interesting i think i will try this for two weeks and see what happens
in fact- wow, the study here is interesting...... very very interesting to me, while it is a SMALL study(meaning it cannot relate to everyone as everyone's body responds differently) it still has proof of leptin levels which is directly linked with reduced adipose. So oats....hmmm okay guna try this out.
1/2 cup oats morning
1/2cup oats preworkout
waxi post workout....
but still doesnt insulin secrete fat? thats my only concern here- im trying to keep insulin levels low
04-28-2011, 11:49 AM
I like that a little better. I'm not sold on waxi's effectiveness. I still like doing dextrose or maltodextrin (or even better, kids cereal that doesn't contain HFCS - it's low fat and is just plain sugar). Also make sure your PWO meals are extremely low in fat....like 3g or less. They will get in the way and slow down the absorption of protein and carbs.
My thinking is usually: AM - slow carbs, PreWO - slow carbs, PostWO - fast carbs
04-28-2011, 11:59 AM
Check these out when you get the time, will def give you a better understanding of insulin and give you some things to think about
http://www.medbio.info/Horn/PDF%20fi...ostasis_2a.pdf (this is long, but will be worth the read)
04-28-2011, 03:10 PM
04-28-2011, 03:57 PM
Absolutely no milk post workout. The lactose and casein proteins will slow everything down.
Actually now that you mention it the last week or so my pre and post workout meals have been almost the same macro wise. 0-2g F, 50g C, 30-50g P
04-29-2011, 12:16 AM
i have WPI with NO fats post workout, usually my preworkout consists of an apple w wpi bcaa's intra(cardio)
although im swtiching to a more balanced diet 150 g carbs 100g fats 350 g protein- this is roughly the same diet I used last summer to cut, and i got lean lean lean(although I have added in 40g more fat and 100g more protein to help maintain muscle mass)
so tomorrow is chest again HEAVY bbell light dumbell
guna be 275x3 super setted with 70lb dumbells etc
lets see how strengths holding
so far no problems- libido is actually higher than it was on cycle energy levels good and mood is fine, while this DOES NOT mean im okay(only bloods will tell) they are hopeful signs
04-29-2011, 11:43 AM
Ostarine is in town should be delivered today.
will start it,
pics coming on sunday
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