New SARMS S-4 Log for an MMA Fighter: Part 2

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  1. New SARMS S-4 Log for an MMA Fighter: Part 2


    Well it's been a long time since I have logged anything on this site, or even checked it in a while. Things have gone very well since the last time I took S4 back in July/August. Those of you who kept up with my thread saw my gains in regards to strength and cardiovascular conditioning. Since then I have gone undefeated, I am ranked #1 in my weight division in the state (I will keep all of that info anonymous), and am looking to fight a new, bigger and stronger opponent in May.

    For this reason, I will be taking another cycle of s4, and I will be logging all about it for everyone's entertainment. I will be dosing 30mg twice a day again, one before every work out (strength/conditioning in the morning, team training in the evening). Once again, I'm always open to advice, so please let me know what you guys think. Current supplements include:
    -s4
    -100% whey protein
    -BCAA Aminos (xtend)
    -Fish oil
    -and a VERY CLEAN DIET (almost paleo, with some minor adjustments)

    I will be posting more details later. Please let me know what you guys think. I started the cycle yesterday, so I will give some details on how my week is going in couple of days.


  2. wow man, that seems like pretty high dose. Any reason you chose S4 over Osta?
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  3. I'm in for this...going to give S4 a go soon myself. Interested in how this goes!!
    Recoverbro Elite
    "This is what we've been working on"

  4. Quote Originally Posted by neverstop View Post
    wow man, that seems like pretty high dose. Any reason you chose S4 over Osta?
    50mg is the normal dose, 60mg is not that high.

    I have seen guys run it at 100mgs.

  5. That is the same dose I ran the last time I did a log, and it was successful. No blind spots at all last time, and today is my second day taking it and I didn't see any spots. The weather hasn't been great though, so I'm curious to see what it's like on a sunny day (I always wear sunglasses though).

    I am taking s4 simply cuz it's the one i took last time so i have experience with it. I heard Osta may cause some weight gain, which I don't want at all. Anybody have any experience with osta? I'm curious about it, maybe something I can do in the offseason
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  6. Ostarine has been great for me. I've stayed about the same weight after dropping the water weight in PCT, and have lowered bodyfat a decent amount.

    I ran 25mg first week, and have been at 12.5mg since...
    Recoverbro Elite
    "This is what we've been working on"

  7. I am a BIG fan of SARMS S4.

    subbed!

  8. subbed. good luck bro.

  9. to bad this stuff is like 150$ for a
    Month of it :/

  10. LOL, HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU GET IT FOR 20??? In my opinion it is worth every cent, oh and btw, for those wondering, I'm using the same one as the last time from ***********.com. I've done plenty of research (being an exercise physiology/neuromuscular physiology graduate), and the fact that s4 works as good as it does with minimal side effects, especially to the organs, makes it worth it to me.

    As far as Osta is concerned, I've never tried it nor done the research. What are yall's opinions? Especially for an MMA fighter who'se looking to get stronger/leaner, but not bigger/heavier. I've heard stacking the two is great, I may do that after my fight in my offseason to see how it works. I currently fight at 145, but when I go pro 135 will becoem my new home, so I'm also interested in staying strong but cutting down in weight.

    Sorry for the tangent guys. Now, the cycle is not even a week in, so any effects in my opinion would be placebo at this point. I am happy to report that i have had no vision side effects, probably because i'm keeping the dosage low and because I'm taking Billberry as well. I added a new supplement to the list, BCAA's for during my lifting sessions. I do, however, feel more aggressive, but that may also be because I know I'm fighting soon so I tend to be meaner when that happens.

    ****If you guys want, I can post my workouts for the week so you can see what my training weeks look like and what I supplement and when*** I can do this on Sunday, so just let me know by then. Thanks for reading guys!!

  11. I read log where the guy dosed 50 than 100 than 150. Vision sides very bad at 100+

    Otherwise just a minimal yellow hue. I can live with that. Goodluck bro, you should get some good results Also toss in creatine to hold strength on lower cals

  12. Quote Originally Posted by rospina View Post
    LOL, HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU GET IT FOR 20??? In my opinion it is worth every cent, oh and btw, for those wondering, I'm using the same one as the last time from ***********.com. I've done plenty of research (being an exercise physiology/neuromuscular physiology graduate), and the fact that s4 works as good as it does with minimal side effects, especially to the organs, makes it worth it to me.

    As far as Osta is concerned, I've never tried it nor done the research. What are yall's opinions? Especially for an MMA fighter who'se looking to get stronger/leaner, but not bigger/heavier. I've heard stacking the two is great, I may do that after my fight in my offseason to see how it works. I currently fight at 145, but when I go pro 135 will becoem my new home, so I'm also interested in staying strong but cutting down in weight.

    Sorry for the tangent guys. Now, the cycle is not even a week in, so any effects in my opinion would be placebo at this point. I am happy to report that i have had no vision side effects, probably because i'm keeping the dosage low and because I'm taking Billberry as well. I added a new supplement to the list, BCAA's for during my lifting sessions. I do, however, feel more aggressive, but that may also be because I know I'm fighting soon so I tend to be meaner when that happens.

    ****If you guys want, I can post my workouts for the week so you can see what my training weeks look like and what I supplement and when*** I can do this on Sunday, so just let me know by then. Thanks for reading guys!!
    I feel the s4 would be better for an MMA fighter.

  13. Is there any liver toxicity with sarms

  14. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    S4?!

    More like $20 a month
    Get what you pay for, the one company that was selling the stuff cheap was just exposed for stealing their lab test and website info from a reputable supplier site...word for word.. Some guys were reporting gyno for that brand, thats because its not what it supposed to be. Prob spiking it with a cheaper compound.

    gtg is garbage.



    Hey bro, are you more of a stand up fighter or a ground guy? How did your last win come by?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by junkyarddogzz View Post
    Get what you pay for, the one company that was selling the stuff cheap was just exposed for stealing their lab test and website info from a reputable supplier site...word for word.. Some guys were reporting gyno for that brand, thats because its not what it supposed to be. Prob spiking it with a cheaper compound.

    gtg is garbage.



    Hey bro, are you more of a stand up fighter or a ground guy? How did your last win come by?
    I agree, I'd rather pay more money and be guaranteed that what I am getting is truly legit.

    As far as my fighting style, I firmly believe in being equally well rounded everywhere. I started MMA with absolutely no background in combat sports, so I've learned everything equally since day one. My striking (boxing esp) and jits are my strongpoints, but I work at everything. I lucked out because I'm surrounded by very talented wrestlers, and my wrestling (which is one of the hardest to learn IMO) is decent especially for the level I'm currently competing at.

    My first fight I won by submission (arm triangle 2nd round), and I won the second one by Unanimous Decision. These are both amateur, so I've got quite a ways to go.

    What about you? Do you train? Compete?

  16. It's been a week since I began the cycle/training camp, and I now remember why I loved this **** so much!! I've never been too concerned with numbers in the weight room, I prefer to measure my strength indirectly by evaluating how strong I feel against my training partners. But I hit a PR on my deadlift yesterday that caught both my strenght coach and I completely by surprise. My best 1RM on deadlift was 320 (and I haven't max'd since sometime in Jan due to a back injury), and I got 345 twice yesterday!

    Once again, placebo effect or not, I don't give a f***! I see results when I take this ****. I won't max out again until after my fight now to prevent overtraining. But that was def a confidence booster.

    On the menu today: Anaerobic sled circuit at 11 a.m., NoGi bjj at 5. I might find the time to hit the pool in between if I'm lucky

  17. Quote Originally Posted by rospina View Post
    I agree, I'd rather pay more money and be guaranteed that what I am getting is truly legit.

    As far as my fighting style, I firmly believe in being equally well rounded everywhere. I started MMA with absolutely no background in combat sports, so I've learned everything equally since day one. My striking (boxing esp) and jits are my strongpoints, but I work at everything. I lucked out because I'm surrounded by very talented wrestlers, and my wrestling (which is one of the hardest to learn IMO) is decent especially for the level I'm currently competing at.

    My first fight I won by submission (arm triangle 2nd round), and I won the second one by Unanimous Decision. These are both amateur, so I've got quite a ways to go.

    What about you? Do you train? Compete?
    Been training for about 5 years, I have had any Amateur fight. Its not my calling, but I love the sport. I just like to roll these days. To old to get punched in the face everyday

    Keep the log coming man, great stuff and godspeed on the fight bro.

    Are you happy about the strike-force UFC merger?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by junkyarddogzz View Post
    Been training for about 5 years, I have had any Amateur fight. Its not my calling, but I love the sport. I just like to roll these days. To old to get punched in the face everyday

    Keep the log coming man, great stuff and godspeed on the fight bro.

    Are you happy about the strike-force UFC merger?
    Nice man! I actually never had intentions of fighting and was slightly peer pressured into it (i was curious, but hesitant). I've been addicted since then. I'm def happy about the merger, it helped out a few friends of mine as well, lol not many ammy's get to say they train or have trained with UFC fighters on a daily basis.
    Honestly for me it's one fight at a time, I enjoy training everyday and competing is just another outlet/goal to reach for. Training is most important for me as well.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by junkyarddogzz View Post
    Get what you pay for, the one company that was selling the stuff cheap was just exposed for stealing their lab test and website info from a reputable supplier site...word for word.. Some guys were reporting gyno for that brand, thats because its not what it supposed to be. Prob spiking it with a cheaper compound.

    gtg is garbage.



    Hey bro, are you more of a stand up fighter or a ground guy? How did your last win come by?
    he's not talking about GTG

  20. Quote Originally Posted by rospina View Post
    LOL, HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU GET IT FOR 20??? In my opinion it is worth every cent, oh and btw, for those wondering, I'm using the same one as the last time from ***********.com. I've done plenty of research (being an exercise physiology/neuromuscular physiology graduate), and the fact that s4 works as good as it does with minimal side effects, especially to the organs, makes it worth it to me.

    As far as Osta is concerned, I've never tried it nor done the research. What are yall's opinions? Especially for an MMA fighter who'se looking to get stronger/leaner, but not bigger/heavier. I've heard stacking the two is great, I may do that after my fight in my offseason to see how it works. I currently fight at 145, but when I go pro 135 will becoem my new home, so I'm also interested in staying strong but cutting down in weight.

    Sorry for the tangent guys. Now, the cycle is not even a week in, so any effects in my opinion would be placebo at this point. I am happy to report that i have had no vision side effects, probably because i'm keeping the dosage low and because I'm taking Billberry as well. I added a new supplement to the list, BCAA's for during my lifting sessions. I do, however, feel more aggressive, but that may also be because I know I'm fighting soon so I tend to be meaner when that happens.

    ****If you guys want, I can post my workouts for the week so you can see what my training weeks look like and what I supplement and when*** I can do this on Sunday, so just let me know by then. Thanks for reading guys!!
    Im use he same brand sarms you do, hands down the best.

    I actually saw my first live UFC a few months back in Louisville Kentucky. The main event did not disappoint! Wow, what a back and forth brawl.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Lang View Post
    Im use he same brand sarms you do, hands down the best.

    I actually saw my first live UFC a few months back in Louisville Kentucky. The main event did not disappoint! Wow, what a back and forth brawl.
    Damn i'm jealous man! I still haven't been to one. Who was the main event at the one you went to?

  22. Almost 3 weeks since I started taking this and it's definitely working. I won't know if my numbers are going up since I won't be doing any max lifts from here until the fight, but my endurance is through the roof. I'm out-wrestling guys in the room that are both bigger than me, and better wrestlers; this to me signifies that I have more strength in some way shape or form simply because I'm beating technique in some situations with raw strength (so yes, I've been guilty for 'muscling' instead of being technical...but **** it, I have a fight coming up!)
    It's a beautiful day outside so I'm going to hit a light saturday workout (some padwork with light 'clinch with hits' since I'm fighting a wrestler), and then follow it up with some active recovery at the pool.
    I will post more details about my week later tonight or tomorrow when I have some free time to sit in front of the computer for a bit.
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