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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    20 mg. I can't imagine what i'm going to eat when I get to 40mg.
    Well Ive personally stopped using a fork and just use both hands to pile everything in my mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by xFRACTION View Post
    Well Ive personally stopped using a fork and just use both hands to pile everything in my mouth
    I was the same way with m1,4. Literally I would eat, then think about eating again 10 minutes later. I got about 400g of protein in me yesterday and I was still hungry. Green monster = green tree?



    day 3
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    dosed 10 mg mdxt, 200 mg katanadrol pre-workout, 5 g taurine

    I slept like a baby last night. Which was great, yesterday I was out of gas all day. Unfortunately I was also out of gas today this morning at the gym. Which doubly sucked because I was late and had to do a super fast work out. No back pumps yet I decided I'd rather take some as a preventative measure. My appetite is still looking like I'm on a monster bulk instead of a recomp.

    I'm debating adding in carbs pre-work out. I just haven't had any work outs yet where after I left I think, that was a great work out.

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    legs day:

    squats

    135 x 20 x 1
    185 x 20 x 2
    225 x 10 x 1

    power cleans

    135 x 10 x 1
    155 x 10 x 2
    175 x 10 x 1

    sldl sumo stance

    225 x 10 x 4

    quad extensions

    hamstring curls

    calf raises on leg press

    360 x 40 x 4
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    I think you meant to say 5g Taurine
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    I think carbs pre-WO are essential. Seriously I'll get a better pump if I've got more carbs in me. They will literally fill up your muscles. What time of day are you going to the gym? I assume its in the evening and that's why no carbs.
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    I'm not eating no carbs, I'm just not eating very many. I think I'll carb up pre/post work out. I lift at 5am so I guess I should really be less carb paranoid.
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    i see ur dosing that taurine already haha; i think you'll be fine till 30 at least ; just eat a banana before u head over to crush the workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    I'm not eating no carbs, I'm just not eating very many. I think I'll carb up pre/post work out. I lift at 5am so I guess I should really be less carb paranoid.
    Oya have carbs pre and post-wo and after that you can cut them out and increase fats. IMO.
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    Apparently I look a lot bigger now. I can't tell but my ex's dad was like damn Will, you hitting dem weights? hahah. He saw me last maybe 2-3 weeks ago. It felt good b/c he played football in college. Won some award for being the best player in the ivy league.
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    day 4

    I randomly decided to weigh myself today, up to 199.6. So maybe I am bigger...

    Off day so I decided to ride my bike. Rode 60 miles on my track bike in the freezing cold. My legs felt like jello by the end.
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    hit a few pr's today. I'll post the work out later. nap time
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    Strength kickin in already?! Damn!
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    PRs on day 5! Yeah buddy
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    day 5:

    Work out started out slow. Once it started rolling it seemed as if I could just add a bit more weight on each time. Still dosing 10 mg mdxt and 200 mg katana pre-work out. 10 mg/150 mg later in the afternoon.

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    shoulders/chest

    db military:

    70 x 15 x 1 (warm up)
    80 x 10 x 1
    85 x 10 x 1
    90 x 10 x 1

    standing over head press

    115 x 10 x 1
    135 x 10 x 1
    155 x 10 x 1

    cable flies on incline bench

    side laterals

    hammer strength bench

    135 x 10 x 1
    160 x 10 x 1
    170 x 10 x 1
    180 x 10 x 1 (pr)
    200 x 7 x 1 (pr)

    incline db

    80 x 10 x 1
    90 x 10 x 1
    100 x 10 x 1
    110 x 10 x 1(pr)

    dips

    abs

    edit:

    I really need a better ab routine. Anyone have any suggestions? Right now I'm following arnold's beginner program, abs every day, weighted crunches one day, leg raises the next. I don't feel like my gut is looking any better
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    I do this routine EOD and it's working great.

    Hanging leg raises(not supported) - lower abs
    3*10-15

    Weighted Cable crunches - upper abs
    3*12-15

    Weighted cable woodchoppers - obliques
    3*12-15(each side)
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    I just do situps, sometimes i do twisted ones to hit obliques.

    Maybe that's why i dont have abs lol.
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    day 6:

    ran 6 miles in the am. no weights today. after yesterday I am really sore. probably will take it off until monday.
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    day 7:

    my weight is up to 204.5. Weighed in first thing in the morning. I was like shocked when I looked at the scale. I don't feel any fatter based on how my pants fit.

    Did abs, ran for 30 minutes then knocked out a 40 mile bike ride.

    got over the whole embarrassed how I look thing, this is what I looked like before I started this up. I'm really bad at taking pics of myself. But I'm hoping to be leaner by the time this cycle ends.



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    Up to almost 205?

    So how much is that total since the start?

    If you could get in the habit of putting the total +lbs after your weigh ins so we know please.

    so like 204.5(+?)
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    up 9.9 lbs. I'll try to be better about doing updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    up 9.9 lbs. I'll try to be better about doing updates.
    Holy crap man. That's some big gains so far for supplementing with caffeine!
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    day 7

    no sides so far. My sleep has been good and I was really tired over the weekend. Good thing to have 4 days off work. Took a few 4 hour naps in the middle of the day . I can't say I have any increased libido but my appetite is still raging on. I am still eating like a horse... Which is why I'm up 10 lbs. I think I'm going to cut back some on cals from fat. My recovery time is speeding slowly. I'm switching up my routine so I can lift with my buddy on friday and saturday. All he does is arms/chest but that's b/c he has ****ed up his body too much to do anything else. He does push me though. My tri's are still a bit fried from my arms day and I'm starting to notice dryness in my left elbow even on 10mg of fish oil a day.

    dosage: 20 mg mdxt 200 mg katana (pre work out. total 30mg mdxt/350 katana)

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    shoulder day:

    db military press

    65 x 10 x 1 (warm up)
    75 x 10 x 1
    85 x 10 x 1
    95 x 10 x 1

    arnold press

    55 x 10 x 1
    65 x 10 x 1
    75 x 10 x 1

    cable front raises

    side laterals

    upright rows

    135 x 10 x 4

    db shrugs
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    btw the guy I asked to spot me on db military this morning told me to touch the db to my delt. Is that correct? I can go deeper I just haven't tried to extend my ROM for that much weight.
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    id say just stick with what works for u bro; if your getting the delt development u need; dont change it!! and damn your weight is skyrocketing! hahaha
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    My shoulders are far from where I want them to be. They are considerably bigger than they used to be, 5 jacket sizes in 8 months. I'm not against doing it, it just seems like it would be overly hard on your shoulders to go down much further than where I go to. I'll try to take a video of me later this week. My delts are definitely feeling fried right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    up 9.9 lbs. I'll try to be better about doing updates.
    9.9lbs in 7 days?

    nice results so far!

    im on day 8 and up 7 and thought that was HUGE!

    will be following this
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    You were not kidding those are some sick DB press numbers, your shoulders are strong! Going deeper puts unneeded stress on your biceps, tendons, and shoulders. Ive read a few articles and watched some training video's where they say theres no need to go that deep. You can hurt yourself quickly with that weight your putting up man. Id stick with what youve been doing let that guy be the one walking around in a sling after having shoulder reconstruction surgery! Hell here's a quick vid breaking it down http://www.youtube.com/user/Instruct.../4/kMWmQ30QIcg

    BTW sick work man, keep it up!
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    Yeah don't bring em down that far. Dudes prolly just jealous you're pushing that much weight, lol.

    I bring the down far, but never have them touch my delts.
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    I remember seeing some video with Dorian Yates iirc talking about shoulder work outs. He actually emphasized not going all the way down on shoulder presses. Idk, bro science confuses me.

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    day 8

    I don't know if this is mdxt related by my neck/back has been really stiff for the past few days. It might be my bed telling me it needs to be replaced or maybe its the compound. I think its more the former. I definitely don't have back pumps. Would have tried to go up in weight on deads but my back was just not feeling it.

    My appetite still rages on. I'm not keeping it as clean as I would like to, ie last night I had some ice cream. Strength continues to be good, but I'm hoping for more. I don't feel "on" like I have in the past.

    dosage: 20 mg mdxt 200 mg katana (pre work out. total 30mg mdxt/350 katana)

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    wide grip chins

    bw x 15 x 5

    dead lifts

    135 x 10 x 1 (warm up)
    225 x 10 x 2
    315 x 10 x 1

    db pull overs

    hs iso row

    90 x 10 x 1
    135 x 10 x 2
    180 x 6 x 1 (failure)

    t-bar rows

    face pulls

    abs (cable crunches, unsupported leg lifts and cable wood chops)
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    day 9:

    I was going to take it easy today. My lower back is sore, idk why. I took 12g taurine pre-wo along with 2 bananas. Was hurting before and during, not after.

    Then I ran into my buddy little joe. That is his ironic nickname. He is a 400 lbs samoan who is a powerlifting coach/correctional officer/player. Does all kinds of crazy things like calf raises while laying on a bench pushing up on a smith press.

    *****

    Legs day

    squats

    135 x 10 x 1 (warm up)
    225 x 10 x 1
    275 x 10 x 1
    315 x 10 x 1
    365 x 10 x 1
    405 x 10 x 1 (joe basically said man up or you're gonna look like a crack head when you can't squat for ****. Got to admit the last 3 or 4 weren't the prettiest squats you have ever seen)

    power cleans

    135 x 10 x 2
    155 x 10 x 2

    leg press supersetted into calf raises
    360 x 15/40 x 4

    quad extensions

    bb lunges

    185 x 10 x 4

    ran for 20 minutes/swam for 20 minutes.
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    I want a crazy somoan power lifter at my gym They'll do that to you with the squats tho haha. You will move that weight by any means necessary
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    When I lift back with him, I'm sore for like 4 days afterwards.

    this is little joe btw

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    I cant get it to load but looks like fun haha
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    Talk about a little guy
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    I keep getting an error when I try to play the video. I'll try it again later.
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    does this one work for you guys?



    not as impressive but dude can do legitimate wide grip chins! Yes the pull up bar flexes when he is hanging.
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    I can see both videos now. I'm trying to picture him doing chins.
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    DAYM just think how big he'd be if his range of motion were more than 50%....
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    Maybe he is as big as he is bc of his range of motion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spool View Post
    Maybe he is as big as he is bc of his range of motion...
    Or maybe because he eats 4 meals a day consisting only of the all you can eat buffet at the Bellagio...
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