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  1.  10-15-2010  08:32 PM
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    Talking The S4 LOG BEGINS!!!


    Hey Anabolic minds world, this is my first hormonal log of anything.

    Finally got my wonderful bottle of Sarms S4 today.
    I will be running Sarms S4 for 4 weeks at 50mg a day.

    10/15/2010

    Current-
    weight : 190
    height : 5'11/6'
    bf% : ?, will be measured soon

    Measurements will be taken soon

    I have less than 50 post so I cant produce photos

    Other things I am running alongside S4 are Jack3d (only on lift days), and EC. I am also on the ketogenic diet at the moment.

    Contemplating running PCT Assist along side, was recommended to me but im strapped for cash at the moment.

    To get it going in my system I have taken
    25mg at 5pm and plan to take 25mg before bed. Reason being, recovery as I sleep. (started so late due to late delivery by mail man)

    Taste: Not as horrible as has been mentioned. Reminded me of when spraying lysol in the wind and getting it in your mouth....we all have been there

    Effect: Soon to be discovered



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    Nice, I'm doin my first log to, have fun!KTS
    ps whats up with that 50 post things for pics? freakin sucks I got the same problem, but I dont want to go blah blah blah all over everyones threads

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    whats ur goals?

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    Originally Posted by ehaley View Post
    Nice, I'm doin my first log to, have fun!KTS
    ps whats up with that 50 post things for pics? freakin sucks I got the same problem, but I dont want to go blah blah blah all over everyones threads
    Haha same

    Current goals are to just help with my cut, I box/MMA so hopefully i will be dropping weight and keeping dense mass. I started at 220 haha some muscle loss but have to do what ya have to do if you want to compete.

    How about yourself?

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    You gonna LOVE IT!!!
    I finished a cycle last month,what can i say i cant wait to finish the rest of my bottle lol
    And your timing is wrong! take 25mg in the morning and 25mg 1 hour before your workout.Don't forget 5days on 2days of to eliminate the sides witch you might not have any, but it will help you anyway so your body dosent get used to it.
    Take your Jack3d half hour before your workout as well and you sir will become a MONSTER in the gym lol for real
    Drop PCT Assist you dont need it!!! save the cash bro
    At the end of the cycle use something for your libido (mine was low)and you are GTG!!!
    Take a brake 4 weeks or more...
    ENJOY THE RIDE!!!

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    Originally Posted by 2die4 View Post
    You gonna LOVE IT!!!
    I finished a cycle last month,what can i say i cant wait to finish the rest of my bottle lol
    And your timing is wrong! take 25mg in the morning and 25mg 1 hour before your workout.Don't forget 5days on 2days of to eliminate the sides witch you might not have any, but it will help you anyway so your body dosent get used to it.
    Take your Jack3d half hour before your workout as well and you sir will become a MONSTER in the gym lol for real
    Drop PCT Assist you dont need it!!! save the cash bro
    At the end of the cycle use something for your libido (mine was low)and you are GTG!!!
    Take a brake 4 weeks or more...
    ENJOY THE RIDE!!!
    Some how some way you just made me even more hyped for this cycle.


    Will switch the timing up tomorrow, any loss of mass/density after your cycle?

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    Day:2

    Weight : 191

    -Started my day a bit late, this gloomy weather tends to make me hibernate. I am attributing the gain of a pound to water weight, had some Thai soup last night. LOTS of sodium but i needed the calories.

    Forgot to say, I got my SARM S4 from the SS website. Color has a light yellowish tinge to it.

    Too early in the game to notice any changes, although when I do dose, I get this light head buzz, maybe its because I place it under my tongue and make it really a sublingual?

    Going to go out for my distance run in a bit.

    Edit: Came back from my run, it is 2:50. Noticing some nausea and stomach problems, not sure if i should attribute that to the Thai soup i had last night or the S4. Same thing happened last night a few hours after taking SARM S4. I have a pretty sensitive digestive tract though people so dont run away. Also noticing a weird light headed feel, almost like a beer buzz. Going to take tomorrow off from EC to see who the culprit is.

    Edit#2: So im thinking the stomach problems are caused by the SARMS S4 if so my bowel movements show signs of liver problems (either malabsorption or liver not functioning properly)

    But to give SS a try I shall wait until Tuesday to make definitive claims.

    I had a thing I needed to attend so got home around 9:30, took my S4 and my Jack3d.
    Workout went alright, cant really tell if the Jack3d is kicking in, some density but the same boost I get from my EC stack.

    Effects so far:

    So far I have gained a pound (which is funny considering digestive tract issues). Beyond that cant really tell a difference will give it more time.

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    will be following cause im going to use s4 in summer


    Im on OSTA Sarm right now aka MK-2866 COME FOLLOW FOR MY RIDE TOOOOOO!!!
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

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    Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    will be following cause im going to use s4 in summer


    Im on OSTA Sarm right now aka MK-2866 COME FOLLOW FOR MY RIDE TOOOOOO!!!
    Will do! Looking at OSTA for my bulk up =D cant wait.

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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Some how some way you just made me even more hyped for this cycle.


    Will switch the timing up tomorrow, any loss of mass/density after your cycle?
    No loss of mass PERIOD!!! I actually gained few pounds of pure muscle
    S4 Its like a battery never runs out lol you will walk out of the gym and be like damn!!! i could have stayed there another hour,combined with Jack3d your strength will be *UCKING CRAZY!!!

    ITS LIKE CRACK IN THE BOTTLE LMAO!!!

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    Ive ran S4, nothing significant.

    IMO you can save money and get better results with IGF-1 LR3 or IGF-2 LR3.

    IMO S4 is a waste of money and it still suppresses HPTA, not bad to where you need SERMs but still. Which would explain "2die4" having a low libido.

    Side Effects: ****s with your eyes, tint of yellow in bright lighting, and cant see **** at night.

    If your gonna run a cycle, run a god damn cycle.

    And dont use Sarms during a PCT protocol, it will just shut you down more. Unless your taking 25mg a day then suppression is limited. But the anabolic effects a individual would be looking four couldn't be achieved on 25mg a day.

    Like i said, save the money for IGF-1 or GHRP-6 (Which works wonders) your bound to get more results with those 2 compounds than S4. (Plus IGF and GHRP burn fat )

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    Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Ive ran S4, nothing significant.

    IMO you can save money and get better results with IGF-1 LR3 or IGF-2 LR3.

    IMO S4 is a waste of money and it still suppresses HPTA, not bad to where you need SERMs but still. Which would explain "2die4" having a low libido.

    Side Effects: ****s with your eyes, tint of yellow in bright lighting, and cant see **** at night.

    If your gonna run a cycle, run a god damn cycle.

    And dont use Sarms during a PCT protocol, it will just shut you down more. Unless your taking 25mg a day then suppression is limited. But the anabolic effects a individual would be looking four couldn't be achieved on 25mg a day.

    Like i said, save the money for IGF-1 or GHRP-6 (Which works wonders) your bound to get more results with those 2 compounds than S4. (Plus IGF and GHRP burn fat )
    Would love some growth hormone, but its expensive as all hell from where I know to get it.

    But yeah im planning on running a PCT after this or ever just a pct to coincide with it. Not sure though if i should get clomid, or some other pct, cant really find unbiased consensus on that. Anyone have input?

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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Would love some growth hormone, but its expensive as all hell from where I know to get it.

    But yeah im planning on running a PCT after this or ever just a pct to coincide with it. Not sure though if i should get clomid, or some other pct, cant really find unbiased consensus on that. Anyone have input?
    I say u just get test and get way better results bro. Grab some test by itself and run some clomid for PCT, and your good to go.

    Your gonna have way more gains with test than sarms.

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    Great log, I love sarms s4

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    Not trashing Sarms, i mean it did maintain 95% of my strength during a PCT in which i ran a heavy cycle.

    50mg a day does a good job at keeping you lean, maintaining size and strength but as far as building ALOT of mass? Test is better lol.

    But i wouldnt mind running sarms with some peptides and alot of food for optimum growth. Nothing crazy tho.

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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Would love some growth hormone, but its expensive as all hell from where I know to get it.

    But yeah im planning on running a PCT after this or ever just a pct to coincide with it. Not sure though if i should get clomid, or some other pct, cant really find unbiased consensus on that. Anyone have input?
    You don't need a "regular" PCT for S4 i used (unleashed) for 2 weeks and i feel great already, but you could use something else im sure you will be fine.
    And you CANT compare growth hormone,test etc with S4! anyway at the and we all are "human rats" we try stuff and we all get different results i know its sad but thats what we do! we just put crap into our system
    Nothing out there its safe even the air that we breath..

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    Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Ive ran S4, nothing significant.

    IMO you can save money and get better results with IGF-1 LR3 or IGF-2 LR3.

    IMO S4 is a waste of money and it still suppresses HPTA, not bad to where you need SERMs but still. Which would explain "2die4" having a low libido.

    Side Effects: ****s with your eyes, tint of yellow in bright lighting, and cant see **** at night.

    If your gonna run a cycle, run a god damn cycle.

    And dont use Sarms during a PCT protocol, it will just shut you down more. Unless your taking 25mg a day then suppression is limited. But the anabolic effects a individual would be looking four couldn't be achieved on 25mg a day.

    Like i said, save the money for IGF-1 or GHRP-6 (Which works wonders) your bound to get more results with those 2 compounds than S4. (Plus IGF and GHRP burn fat )
    Wrong, point of suppression starts at 70mg ED.

    Op, at 50mg ED, you will not need a PCT at all, none, nada..
    And I doubt you have any eye sides on 50mg, even ran 7 days a week.

    I am running and OSTA/S4 bridge here soon enough..
    I am excited..

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    Originally Posted by JCunningham View Post
    Wrong, point of suppression starts at 70mg ED.

    Op, at 50mg ED, you will not need a PCT at all, none, nada..
    And I doubt you have any eye sides on 50mg, even ran 7 days a week.

    I am running and OSTA/S4 bridge here soon enough..
    I am excited..
    Nah dude i get the eye sides at 50mg a day, but the strength is nice.

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    Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Nah dude i get the eye sides at 50mg a day, but the strength is nice.
    Very surprising..
    Wonder how I will fair at 75mg when I use S4..

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    Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Not trashing Sarms, i mean it did maintain 95% of my strength during a PCT in which i ran a heavy cycle.

    50mg a day does a good job at keeping you lean, maintaining size and strength but as far as building ALOT of mass? Test is better lol.

    But i wouldnt mind running sarms with some peptides and alot of food for optimum growth. Nothing crazy tho.
    Not going for mass gains, I really have no issue with putting on mass I just want something to tighten me up a bit. But thank you.

    Originally Posted by 2die4 View Post
    You don't need a "regular" PCT for S4 i used (unleashed) for 2 weeks and i feel great already, but you could use something else im sure you will be fine.
    And you CANT compare growth hormone,test etc with S4! anyway at the and we all are "human rats" we try stuff and we all get different results i know its sad but thats what we do! we just put crap into our system
    Nothing out there its safe even the air that we breath..

    Yeah agreed i understand that growth hormone would make me massive, I also dont want to organ growth though. Thanks will checkout a pct just in case, I mean whats the worst that can happen from running a bottle of supplement shop pct even if i dont need it?

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