NEW SARMS S-4 LOG!!!! - For the MMA Fighter

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  1. nice log rospina
    I, myself am on my first cycle on sarms s4 started 6 days ago 25-30mgs twice a day(once for none workout days). I have been experiancing great strength gains myself and liking it so far(i didnt wanna leave the gym today although i have been there a little over 2 hours, could have pulled off another 2 hours easy). I have been researching this product for about 4 moths aside with cjc 1295 and ghrp 6 together combo. I ordered all of them both sarms 2 bottles and 5 vials each of cjc1295-ghrp6. Since i dont know how to inject myself (although subQ is said to be simple and painless) I m waiting for my friend who is a medic to come back form vacattion to teach me how to so that i can start peptides along with sarms. I'm thinking about 2x50mcg cjc1295 and 2x100mcg ghrp6 ed.
    Now, maybe some folks here may help me? So far all the posts i read were eighter about sarms or cjc+ghrp but there is none that mentions them used together, anyone has an idea if this is a good combo?
    i wish all great gains and good health, and any help would be appreciated


  2. Hows it coming?
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  3. After a week full of traveling, work, stress, and lack of sleep, I can finally take a day off and take it easy! I don't know how I managed to fit in my workouts into my schedule this week, but I managed to get it done and am still seeing results! I was really surprised to see any gains this week, I figured I would either plateau or even diminish since I have been getting little to no rest, wihle still training at the same intensity that I have been for the past cpl of weeks.

    I've seen several gains in different areas, but the most impressive was my lower body workout again. I am on week 3 of deadlifts, and this week was a 85% 1RM day. So I basically did a 3 rep max as my final lift (after 4 sets). My 1 RM (100%) was 280 back in early July. On Friday I lifted 275 lbs 4 times, it was supposed to be a 3 RM, but I still felt like I had some left in the tank after the final rep, so I decided to go for one more. Even though that's not anything super impressive for most people, it is def INCREDIBLE for me!

    I could def tell the lack of rest was taking a bit of a toll on me though, I felt more winded than usual during my evening MMA training, to the point where I was being sloppy when I shouldn't have been. I still finished all of the workouts, and never stopped pushing or coming forward; at least it tested my heart!

    Luckily this will be a MUCH easier week than the last. Can't wait to finally test my 1RM (deadlifts) on Friday! Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the weekend!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by rospina View Post
    After a week full of traveling, work, stress, and lack of sleep, I can finally take a day off and take it easy! I don't know how I managed to fit in my workouts into my schedule this week, but I managed to get it done and am still seeing results! I was really surprised to see any gains this week, I figured I would either plateau or even diminish since I have been getting little to no rest, wihle still training at the same intensity that I have been for the past cpl of weeks.

    I've seen several gains in different areas, but the most impressive was my lower body workout again. I am on week 3 of deadlifts, and this week was a 85% 1RM day. So I basically did a 3 rep max as my final lift (after 4 sets). My 1 RM (100%) was 280 back in early July. On Friday I lifted 275 lbs 4 times, it was supposed to be a 3 RM, but I still felt like I had some left in the tank after the final rep, so I decided to go for one more. Even though that's not anything super impressive for most people, it is def INCREDIBLE for me!

    I could def tell the lack of rest was taking a bit of a toll on me though, I felt more winded than usual during my evening MMA training, to the point where I was being sloppy when I shouldn't have been. I still finished all of the workouts, and never stopped pushing or coming forward; at least it tested my heart!

    Luckily this will be a MUCH easier week than the last. Can't wait to finally test my 1RM (deadlifts) on Friday! Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the weekend!
    Great log, lots of good info here

  5. So all I can say is that THIS **** IS INSANE!!! I have never been able to deadlift 290 lbs in my life, and I was able to lift 315 for a 1 RM! It's crazy that this **** isn't a steroid or hormone. Yesterday marked the end of the 4th week I've been taking s4, and it has def exceeded my expectations thus far. I'm the strongest I've ever been in my life, my cardio has improved ten fold, and my libido is through the freakin' roof!! I feel like I'm ****in 17 again!!

    Now my question is, how should I cycle on and off this? 4 weeks on 4 weeks off? Or should I finish the bottle? Any recommendations/suggestions?
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  6. Woah cardio improved? That sounds interesting..

  7. Quote Originally Posted by sluggy View Post
    Woah cardio improved? That sounds interesting..
    endurance will go through he roof.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by rospina View Post
    So all I can say is that THIS **** IS INSANE!!! I have never been able to deadlift 290 lbs in my life, and I was able to lift 315 for a 1 RM! It's crazy that this **** isn't a steroid or hormone. Yesterday marked the end of the 4th week I've been taking s4, and it has def exceeded my expectations thus far. I'm the strongest I've ever been in my life, my cardio has improved ten fold, and my libido is through the freakin' roof!! I feel like I'm ****in 17 again!!

    Now my question is, how should I cycle on and off this? 4 weeks on 4 weeks off? Or should I finish the bottle? Any recommendations/suggestions?
    amazing, just amazing. a 25 lbs increase, wow! my bottle is on it's way. why would anyone ever want to touch a prohormone and or pro steroid if you have this stuff?

    i am going to run this with d aspartic acid, just to make sure that my lh levels stay elevated while on.

  9. bump for more updates

  10. So I am a newbie, and I am interested in Sarms S4, But I cannot find out if this stuff is legal or illegal. Can anyone tell me? If it is neither like still in testing phase or something, would it be confiscated in the mail or any penalties if I did order it?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by DubsMax View Post
    So I am a newbie, and I am interested in Sarms S4, But I cannot find out if this stuff is legal or illegal. Can anyone tell me? If it is neither like still in testing phase or something, would it be confiscated in the mail or any penalties if I did order it?
    I'm pretty sure it's not legal, nor illegal. I think it's still in that gray area, the FDA has not approved or dissaproved it. So I guess that means there is no penalty. I ordered it in the mail over a month ago and have not had any issues with the authorities.

  12. Sorry for the delay on posting, I've was out of town all last week and did not have access to the internet, nor time to sit down and post. I had to go to Florida to corner of my training partners who was coming off a bit of a losing streak. The good news is that he dominated, winning the the fight by KO in the first round

    Either way, last week was my first week off s4 (since I had been on for 4 weeks). First thing that I must say is that I HAVE NOT experienced any shutdown, nor am I taking any test boosters nor estrogen blockers. I do not have the bloodwork to confirm this, but I'm pretty sure I would notice any shutdown at all.

    I have also retained my strength gains which I was not only surprised to see, but very happy about! I can still bust out 75 lb dumbells (DB Bench press) for 6-8 reps and still have some left in the tank. I couldn't even do that prior to taking the product. I most definitely got stronger, and leaner for that matter. My weight didn't vary a whole lot, but I would be willing to bet that my body comp changed. My pants def feel a little looser, so I think i burned some of the annoying fat that used to sit around my waistline. I noticed some physical changes, but I guess it wasn't as noticeable to me since I see myself in the mirror everyday, but a friend of mine couldn't have said it any better, "You are the biggest, and skinniest that you've ever been since I've known you!" Def made me feel good about myself!!!

    My cardio still feels great, and I can def tell that I had no loss in my cardio after coming off of s4. My libido is def still great, not quite as high as it was when I was taking the product, but I didn't remember it being like that since i was in high school. This also, IMO, confirms that I have not experienced any shutdown at all. All in all, I am very very very VERY OVERLY satisfied with s4. I will def take it again without thinking twice about it. In fact, I still have some left and cannot wait to start back up again within 2 weeks.

    Expect me to log about my next experience, I can't wait to see where this stuff can take me physically. Thank you for keeping up with my logs, and for the feedback. Keep the sub though, because I will be posting on this log when I begin to finish off the rest of the bottle.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by rospina View Post
    Sorry for the delay on posting, I've was out of town all last week and did not have access to the internet, nor time to sit down and post. I had to go to Florida to corner of my training partners who was coming off a bit of a losing streak. The good news is that he dominated, winning the the fight by KO in the first round

    Either way, last week was my first week off s4 (since I had been on for 4 weeks). First thing that I must say is that I HAVE NOT experienced any shutdown, nor am I taking any test boosters nor estrogen blockers. I do not have the bloodwork to confirm this, but I'm pretty sure I would notice any shutdown at all.

    I have also retained my strength gains which I was not only surprised to see, but very happy about! I can still bust out 75 lb dumbells (DB Bench press) for 6-8 reps and still have some left in the tank. I couldn't even do that prior to taking the product. I most definitely got stronger, and leaner for that matter. My weight didn't vary a whole lot, but I would be willing to bet that my body comp changed. My pants def feel a little looser, so I think i burned some of the annoying fat that used to sit around my waistline. I noticed some physical changes, but I guess it wasn't as noticeable to me since I see myself in the mirror everyday, but a friend of mine couldn't have said it any better, "You are the biggest, and skinniest that you've ever been since I've known you!" Def made me feel good about myself!!!

    My cardio still feels great, and I can def tell that I had no loss in my cardio after coming off of s4. My libido is def still great, not quite as high as it was when I was taking the product, but I didn't remember it being like that since i was in high school. This also, IMO, confirms that I have not experienced any shutdown at all. All in all, I am very very very VERY OVERLY satisfied with s4. I will def take it again without thinking twice about it. In fact, I still have some left and cannot wait to start back up again within 2 weeks.

    Expect me to log about my next experience, I can't wait to see where this stuff can take me physically. Thank you for keeping up with my logs, and for the feedback. Keep the sub though, because I will be posting on this log when I begin to finish off the rest of the bottle.

    great, bless you man

  14. Great log bro!

  15. After reading your posts I decided to give it a go, My only question is how did you overcome the fact it tastes like a warm car tire?
    In all seriousness, I hope to see similar effects that you have seen, and hope to have 0 vision effects. I know it is most likely different for each person, but are you confident that 50mg/day is a good point to stay at?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by DubsMax View Post
    After reading your posts I decided to give it a go, My only question is how did you overcome the fact it tastes like a warm car tire?
    In all seriousness, I hope to see similar effects that you have seen, and hope to have 0 vision effects. I know it is most likely different for each person, but are you confident that 50mg/day is a good point to stay at?
    In regards to taste, i just said f*** it, and took it straight. I've read that some ppl mix it with gatorade, juice, or a preworkout drink, but i'm not sure if that would have an effect on absorption rates or anything.

    You have to play around with dosage a little bit, I started at 50 and had a little bit of the visual side effects, so i tapered it down to 30 mg and the side effects went away. You just have to play around with it a little bit.

    If you decide to make a log when you take it post the link on here, i would like to keep up with it. I also used the Wendler 5/3/1 system as my strength program in case you'd like to give that program a try.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by rospina View Post
    In regards to taste, i just said f*** it, and took it straight. I've read that some ppl mix it with gatorade, juice, or a preworkout drink, but i'm not sure if that would have an effect on absorption rates or anything.

    You have to play around with dosage a little bit, I started at 50 and had a little bit of the visual side effects, so i tapered it down to 30 mg and the side effects went away. You just have to play around with it a little bit.

    If you decide to make a log when you take it post the link on here, i would like to keep up with it. I also used the Wendler 5/3/1 system as my strength program in case you'd like to give that program a try.
    Awesome log man. reps. I'm finishing up my 2nd wendler cycle wednesday. I must try this sarm s4. It sounds very promising.

    Does anyone know if it has ever been taken with Nolva?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPanda View Post
    Awesome log man. reps. I'm finishing up my 2nd wendler cycle wednesday. I must try this sarm s4. It sounds very promising.

    Does anyone know if it has ever been taken with Nolva?
    There has been a couple of people post about its use in PCT, all with positive reviews. Elitefitness has a couple of logs on it's uses as such if you want to go over there and check them out.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  19. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    There has been a couple of people post about its use in PCT, all with positive reviews. Elitefitness has a couple of logs on it's uses as such if you want to go over there and check them out.
    Well, I get that you can use it in PCT, but the way everyone is talking about it, I thought it was used instead of a SERM. I get it now. Thanks.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by DubsMax View Post
    After reading your posts I decided to give it a go, My only question is how did you overcome the fact it tastes like a warm car tire?
    In all seriousness, I hope to see similar effects that you have seen, and hope to have 0 vision effects. I know it is most likely different for each person, but are you confident that 50mg/day is a good point to stay at?
    About the taste, im sure u will embrace that tire taste after u see the effects, i've just passed 5 weeks with it and running it with cjc1295 and ghrp-6, and although i ve been tring a cutting routine to drop my 15% bf i gained 10 pounds and the bf is down to 11%. I wish there was a way to tell which one the peptides or s4 couses this unbeliavable strength but as long as i see results i don't care. Another thing i would say is about the vision side effects, in the beggining i started to get them but if u drop the dosage to 25mg (once before training) only in the weekends and keep the weekdays 25x2 it stops, for me at least. My s4 bottle is about to be out and im thinking about giving 2 weeks brake to it (although i dont want to) and i ll keep the peptides on. This will give me a rest since i kinda hurt myself doin 55 lb dumbell curls(before my last set would be 35x5) meanwhile do lots of cardio and ll push myself to see some 6 packs for the firs time in my life (heeeeyy). I ve never been this fit and in 1 month dropped 4% bf by 30 min cardio every day after 6 days of heavy training. i am thinking about keeping the chest and shoulder and leg workouts still going with less intensity and gonna increase the cardioto 45 min with 15 min abs every other day,sarms s4 and cjc1295 + ghrp-6 combo rocks, will keep u all posted in the following weeks, great log by the way and keep healty my friends

  21. Nice to see it's working for you, nice recomp bro
    Paging Dr. Banner. . .

  22. Quote Originally Posted by armanm75 View Post
    About the taste, im sure u will embrace that tire taste after u see the effects, i've just passed 5 weeks with it and running it with cjc1295 and ghrp-6, and although i ve been tring a cutting routine to drop my 15% bf i gained 10 pounds and the bf is down to 11%. I wish there was a way to tell which one the peptides or s4 couses this unbeliavable strength but as long as i see results i don't care. Another thing i would say is about the vision side effects, in the beggining i started to get them but if u drop the dosage to 25mg (once before training) only in the weekends and keep the weekdays 25x2 it stops, for me at least. My s4 bottle is about to be out and im thinking about giving 2 weeks brake to it (although i dont want to) and i ll keep the peptides on. This will give me a rest since i kinda hurt myself doin 55 lb dumbell curls(before my last set would be 35x5) meanwhile do lots of cardio and ll push myself to see some 6 packs for the firs time in my life (heeeeyy). I ve never been this fit and in 1 month dropped 4% bf by 30 min cardio every day after 6 days of heavy training. i am thinking about keeping the chest and shoulder and leg workouts still going with less intensity and gonna increase the cardioto 45 min with 15 min abs every other day,sarms s4 and cjc1295 + ghrp-6 combo rocks, will keep u all posted in the following weeks, great log by the way and keep healty my friends
    yeah, you get used to the taste fast when you see what it does.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by junkyarddogzz View Post
    yeah, you get used to the taste fast when you see what it does.
    haha not sure if i agree with you on that one. . .haha its just straight NASTY!! and there is no sugar coating it. . down the hatch drink some water right after it or a mint helps. . .if your cutting weight and even if you are. . .a sip of coke zero or diet coke works like a charm. . but i'm doin 75mgs and its straight beast mode haha!!
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  24. Any vision side effects with that dosage?? I'm sure the effects at that dosage are CRAZY considering what I experienced with just 30 mg. Can't wait to finish the bottle, I will start again either next week or the following one. It all depends when my next fight is scheduled.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by rospina View Post
    Any vision side effects with that dosage?? I'm sure the effects at that dosage are CRAZY considering what I experienced with just 30 mg. Can't wait to finish the bottle, I will start again either next week or the following one. It all depends when my next fight is scheduled.
    you got all that on 30mgs ed? Wow, bump it to 50mg for sure.

  26. I am very interested in these sarms. both s-4 and ostarine...if i were to get them would i be better if I "searched" for them, or maybe lucky with a "four leaf clover"? i hate this kind of question, but i truly am confused about sources.

  27. ohh man...this was a good read!.. im gona have to do some research on this. if what yall say is true..then i have a feeling that my PCT sups might change a bit.. O_O
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