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    Another H-drol log


    just getting everything set up for my 2nd prohormone cycle. some background info. 21 years old (22 in july). 195lbs. im guessing 13-14% body fat. Been working out for a solid 4 years now. my first time taking a prohormone i was dumb and didnt research (it was superdrol), so now i have taken tons of time to come up with this one, should be starting in July. looks like this:
    CYCLE:
    5 weeks 50/50/75/75/75.
    i will be preloading (is that the correct terminology) cycle assist by CEL 2 weeks prior and taking it throughout.

    POST CYCLE:
    I have Post cycle assist by CEL
    Recycle by purus labs
    Nolva (20/20/10/10)

    pics on page 3

    Any suggestions on the post cycle? I know the RECYCLE has cortisol suppressor in it along with natty test booster in it. post cycle assist has all the goodies for my liver to still be there. Is the nolva dosing ok? Any helpful suggestions are welcome!

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    Update - one of the guys at the gym who has been through about 4 ph cycles suggested i "pulse" m-drol on MWF for the first 3 weeks at 10 mg (one pill) pre-workout to jumpstart everything.

    Is this too much? Should i just go with the less is more strategy and just stick with h-drol? One of my buddies has quite a few m-drol pills left over from his last cycle so it wouldnt cost me anything.
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    alrighty, so today was D-day. im posting pretty late cause it was a long day, but anywho, onto the good parts.

    body weight: 197 lbs.

    woke up early at 7AM
    preworkout protein shake.
    took 25 mg halodrol.

    off to the gym for chest day.
    1) Flat bench- 4 sets. 2 sets of 225lbs 5 times. 1 set of 205 8 times. 1 set of 190 10 times. all done with 1.5 min breaks in between
    2) incline dumbbell fly: 4 sets of 8-10 with 30lbs. again 1.5 min rest in between
    3) decline bench: 3 sets. 1 set of 240 5 times. 1 set of 225 8 times. 1 set of 205 11 times. i rested for about 2 - 2.5 min in between these
    4) incline dumbbell bench: 3 sets of 8 @ 70lbs. Did these really slow and squeezed really tight for a good contraction.
    5) cable flys: 6 sets - 2 up high, 2 medium height, 2 down low. 12 reps each. just wanted to burn out my chest on these. about 30 seconds in between sets. weight was obviously low. 20-30 lbs i think.

    Cardio was light, just 10 min at 6mph on the treadmill.

    overall i felt really energized even though i dont usually wake up that early. i was focused too. this is obviously just the placebo effect but i didnt feel terribly worn out and tired. had a good pump going the whole time.

    post workout: another whey protein shake followed by 7 hard boiled egg whites and 2 sausage patties.

    lunch was at the Atlanta Braves game in the 755 club (the nice restaurant on the upper level). Cheeseburger with onions. yummmm. Lots of water to go with the meal. sucked seeing everyone else drinking cold beer and im the party pooper downing water.

    dinner was lean pork loin with grilled veggies. all in all a pretty healthy eating day. took 25 mg of halovar here too around 5 pm.


    ENDING STATS:
    Body weight: 207 (+10 lbs)
    Bench Max: 295 (+20 lbs)
    Arm size: 17.5 inches flexed cold (+1 inch)
    Body fat: not sure, i dont have calipers but im noticably leaners.

    will have pics to follow soon.
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    day 2: Leg day

    took 25mg of halodrol about 30 min after waking up followed by a protein shake.
    Waiting for my dad to get home and went to spin class with him at the gym. that was one hell of a cardio / leg workout.

    after the spin class i rested for about 15 min then jumped into some weights
    1) leg press: 4 sets: 3 plates on each side 15 times.
    2) leg extension machine: 3 sets at 150lbs 10 times
    3) leg curl machine: 3 sets at 155lbs 10 times
    4) calf raise machine: 4 sets with 250lbs 12-15 times

    I usually go much heavier but my legs were worn the heck out after 45 min of stationary biking. I have never sweated so much (mainly cause the AC wasnt working in the spin class room). Either way, i felt it was an ok workout. looking forward to back day tomorrow (its my favorite day albeit not my best body part though).
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    day 3
    BACK DAY

    1) lat pull downs: 5 sets. 200lbs for 8 reps
    2) machine seated rows: 4 sets. 2 sets at 160lbs for 12 reps. 2 sets at 180 lbs for 8 reps
    3) lower back extension machine: 4 sets at 200lbs for 12 reps
    4) rear delt fly machine: 2 sets at 90 lbs for 12 reps. 2 sets at 100 lbs for 10 reps
    5) upper back machine (forgot what its actually called): 3 sets at 180lbs for 9 reps. 1 set at 140lbs for 16 reps.
    6) barbell rows: burned out using 100lbs. did 2 sets til failure on each.

    Did light cardio today, only 10 min at 6 mph on the treadmill. it wasnt nice enough to run outside (thunderstorms). i really hate running on treadmills, its way too monotonous.

    tomorrow will by my cardio and abs day. mainly just my off day but i want to get in some good cardio. im feeling pretty good pumps while working out but nothing special, im hoping i can start feeling the halo kick in more within a week or so.
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    day 4

    essentially just a cardio day. ran about 3.5 miles = 30 min. yes, i know, im a very slow runner lol. no lethargy or anything to complain about.

    on a side note, 2 people have said my chest looks bigger / more defined, but im guessing they hadn't seen me in a while cause this is only day 4.
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    day 5
    ARM DAY

    all exercises had 1 min breaks in between sets.

    1) barbell curls. 2 sets at 80 pounds for 12 reps. 2 sets at 90 pounds for 8 reps.
    2) incline dumbbell curls: 4 sets at 30 pounds for 10 reps
    3) preacher curls: 2 sets at 70 pounds for 10 reps. 2 sets at 80 lbs for 8 reps.
    4) concentration curls: 2 sets at 30 lbs for 12 reps.
    5) hammer dumbbell curls: 2 sets at 35 lbs for 10 reps.

    1) tricep rope pulldowns: 4 sets at 65lbs for 10 reps
    2) kickbacks: 4 sets at 25lbs for 8 reps
    3) skull crushers: 3 sets at 90lbs for 10 reps.
    4) tricep extension machine: 4 sets at 80 lbs for 9 reps
    5) weighted dips: 45lb plate. 2 sets to failure. i only got 11 on the first one. 8 for the second.

    Overall i felt AMAZING. my arms were soo pumped up. i was really focused and determined. my mind didnt wander like it usually does, i just wanted to attack the weights. still not sure if this is placebo affect still, but either way i enjoyed it cause i felt like i killed it.

    unfortunately no cardio today cause the gym was closing and it was pouring outside.

    did all this within 50 min cause the gym was closing at 9 and i didnt get off work til 7.
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    day 6
    off day unfortunately

    I had some things go on that i wasnt expecting so i couldnt get to the gym in time. it closes at 6 on the weekends. shoulder day will happen tomorrow i suppose.
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    day 7
    shoulder day! one of my favorite days

    1) military barbell press: 4 sets at 135 lbs for 12 reps.
    2) barbell shrugs: 4 sets at 225 for 10 reps
    3) lateral dumbbell raises: 3 sets at 20lbs for 12 reps
    4) dumbbell shrugs: 3 sets with 90 lbs for 10 reps.
    super set with
    5) front dumbbell raises: 3 sets with 20lbs for 8 reps
    6) dumbbell military press: 3 sets at 60lbs for 10 reps. very slow reps really squeezing the muscles tights.
    7) reverse flys: 4 sets at 100lbs for 10-12 reps
    8) single arm cable lateral raises: 3 sets at 12lbs for 15 reps. no break in between sets.

    also did some abs and 15 min of the stair climber machine for cardio. overall felt really good, but i started to get back pumps while doing hanging leg raises. very uncomfortable but still pushed through my workout.

    im thinking of bumping up the halodrol dose to 75mg starting tomorrow. anyone think i should wait? i was hoping to get a good 4 weeks at 75mg to get the most size and strength gains.
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    I know you aren't asking for suggestions, but....

    consider NOT looking at the building of leg muscle the way a lot of weightlifters tend to portray it; consider other ways of building up muscle in the legs.

    legs: the more time you spend in the sitting position without chair or a kung-fu-like crane position, the more you will build your quadriceps.

    I never found lifting weights with a focus on reps with full extension/full range of movement to be pleasing or progressive enough for my body when I was younger. After I used kung-fu and yoga poses (look at crane stance in kung fu and "utkatasana" in yoga for examples), plus my own variations on poses, I found I could bulk up much faster than at the gym. You don't always need weights to build up (eg. have you seen any skinny guys with strong leg muscles who have practiced Taekwondo for years?), but you can alternate between no weights and using weights. Of course the leg biceps need weight training though. shuttle runs/wind sprints and walking on your toes (instead of always doing those calf-raise machines) are useful.

    Anyway, after doing some of the aforementioned yoga/kung fu poses and building up endurance and bulk in my legs, I found I could do what some of my old pee wee football teammates did for highschool football training: lunge with weights around a large area (like half the highschool campus???).

    Think of repetition and variety outside of the norm in the gym setting if the gym isn't getting it done for you. but you don't need yoga or taekwondo classes.

    good to hear about the spinning class with no Air-con.
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    thanks for the advice! yeah, sometimes leg day gets quite boring. ill def. check those poses out. thanks man.

    day 8
    CHEST DAY

    1) flat barbell bench: 1 set at 205 lbs for 12 reps. 1 set at 205 for 9 reps (not spotter to help with 10). 2 sets at 185 for 10 reps.
    2) incline dumbbell fly: 2 sets at 30 lbs for 12 reps. 2 sets at 35 lbs for 10 reps.
    3) decline barbell bench: 4 sets at 205 for 10-13 reps. last set i only got 10.

    Decided to break here for a second and do some abs to let my chest rest. all the sets were done with no more than an minute and half break in between each so my chest was raging.

    4) incline dumbbell bench: 2 sets at 70 lbs. really squeezed the muscles tight and concentrated on my chest contraction.
    5) machine fly: 3 sets at 130 lbs for 10 reps. again, really squeezed at the top of the exercise. got a reallyyyyy good burn on these.
    6) dips: just body weight til failure for 2 sets.

    I felt REALLY good today. bumped up the halodrol dose to 75 mg. all in all im feeling great. i can tell my muscles are starting to get harder and more full. and the intensity and focus in the gym is amazing.

    weighed in today at 201lbs.
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    day 9
    Leg Day I hurt my back pretty bad about a year ago (ATV accident) so doing squats / deadlifts is not my thing anymore unfortunately. light weights only on those

    so i just realized that the way im logging my stuff is super stupid, so here is the easier way to see what im doing.

    smith machine squat
    135 x 8
    185 x 10
    195 x 10
    205 x 8
    225 x 7

    seated calf raises
    90 x 12
    135 x 10 x 3

    leg curl machine
    140 x 15
    155 x 12
    160 x 10 x 2

    leg extensions
    170 x 12
    190 x 10 x 3

    wall sits (took this advice from LIVEAGAIN)
    30 sec x 2 <---- i forgot how much these succkkkkkk. but obviously my quads were burning like none other.

    stiff leg dead lifts
    135 x 12
    155 x 10
    185 x 10
    205 x 7

    Pretty short leg day. still felt really pumped and sweated more than usual i thought. Next time im probably going to throw in leg presses.

    no cardio or abs today. that will happen tomorrow cause im headed to WHITE WATER with the girlfriend.
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    day 10
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    day 11
    BACK DAY

    felt pretty bad waking up this morning. think im getting a cold, but gonna push through it.

    Lat pull downs
    180 x 10
    200 x 8 x 3

    machine rows
    160 x 12
    180 x 8 x 3
    140 x 12 (didnt complete my last set at 180 so i dropped weight and did it til failure).

    lower back extensions (roman chair)
    body weight x 12
    25 x 12
    35 x 10 x 2

    cable reverse flys
    20 x 10
    15 x 14 x 2
    10 x 15

    dumbbell pulls (lawn mower pulls) whatever ya call em!
    80 x 8
    70 x 10 x 2
    65 x 12

    wide grip pull ups on assist machine
    2 sets til failure both letting down slowly.
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    day 12
    Shoulders

    dumbbell shoulder press
    70 x 10 x 2
    70 x 8
    60 x 10

    lateral dumbbell raises
    25 x 10 x 3
    20 x 12

    barbell front raises
    30 x 12 x 3

    shrugs
    225 x 12 x 2
    245 x 10 x 2
    155 til failure

    lateral raise machine
    20 x 10 x 3
    15 x 14

    arnold dumbbell presses
    45 x failure <----- these are by far the worst things ever. i was wanting to cry it was burning so bad, but felt oh so good.

    I was feeling pretty lethargic today after work, picked up a carb free energy drink and felt MUCHO better. my shoulders felt so pumped up, and my dumbbell shoulder press is increasing! im so glad i went ahead and bumped up the halo to 75 mg
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    day 13
    ARM DAY

    barbell curls
    90 x 8 x 3
    80 x 8

    dumbbell curls
    40 x 8 x 2
    35 x 8
    30 x 10

    preacher curl machine
    50 x 12 x 2
    60 x 9 x 2

    tricep cable pushdowns
    75 x 10
    85 x 10
    90 x 8
    95 x 8

    close grip bench i suck at these. bench has never been good to me
    185 x 8 x 2
    155 x 10
    135 x 15

    tricep extension machine
    70 x 10 x 3
    80 x 8

    dumbbell concentration curls
    30 x 12 x 4

    reverse grip tricep pull downs
    65 x 10 x 2

    tricep cable kickbacks
    17.5 x 10 x 2

    cable curls
    65lbs til failure.

    not sure if its just me, but my arms are looking HUGE. makes me pretty happy!
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    day 14
    OFF DAY

    ill actually be doing cardio later on tonight.

    current body weight is at 202lbs. not sure about BF% but im looking a bit leaner, not too much though. I can definitely tell my chest looks fuller and my arms are fitting tighter on all my shirts.
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    day 15

    chest day

    flat bench did these with very little break in between
    225 x 8 <---- new PR!!
    205 x 10
    185 x 10 x 2
    155 x 8

    incline dumbbell fly
    35 x 12 x 2 (at 40 degree incline)
    35 x 10 x 2 (at 30 degree incline)

    decline bench felt pretty worn out for these
    205 x 10
    185 x 10 x 2

    incline dumbbell bench
    70 x 12 (these felt wayyyy easier than last week)
    80 x 10
    85 x 8

    machine fly
    135 x 12 x 2
    150 x 8

    dips
    bodyweight til failure x 2

    Did some abs then ran outside in the 99 degree weather for about 10 - 15 min. thought i was gonna sweat to death.
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    day 16
    OFF DAY

    got called in to work so its a 12 hour day with no time for the gym. sucks, but ya gotta make money some how right?
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    day 17
    BACK DAY

    felt retardedly great at the gym today. pumps were amazing and i had tons of energy. my back was feeling pretty huge.

    bent over rows
    135 x 10
    155 x 8
    185 x 8 x 2

    sitting cable rows
    180 x 8 x 3
    200 x 8

    lat pulldowns
    180 x 8
    200 x 8 x 3
    220 x 6

    back extensions (roman chair)
    45lb plate x 10 x 2
    50 lb dumbbell x 8 x 2

    cable reverse flys
    20 x 8 x 3
    22.5 x 8

    machine pulldowns
    200 x 8 x 3
    190 x 8
    180 x 10

    machine row
    150 til failure x 2
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    day 20
    Leg day

    all plates were 45lbs

    leg press
    6 plates x 12 x 2
    10 plates x 10 x 2
    12 x 8 x 2

    seated calf raises
    4 plates x 10 x3
    5 plates x 8 x 2

    front squats using smith machine
    135 x 10 x 3
    155 x 8

    leg curl machine
    170 x 10 x 2
    180 x 8 x 3

    leg extensions
    180 x 10 x 3
    200 x 8

    Also did a lot of abs today (a lot for me that is, im sure some of you guys spend a ton more time on them). i try to hit my core every other day but i went pretty heavy on the weights for my abs today.

    i have been feeling pretty tired today despite getting plenty of sleep, im guessing this is the lethargy from h-drol. oh well, just gotta tough it out i assume.
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    the lethargy gets worse. I'll never mess wit ha ph again. sides weren't worth it.
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    How is the over all experience so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveagain View Post
    You don't always need weights to build up (eg. have you seen any skinny guys with strong leg muscles who have practiced Taekwondo for years?), but you can alternate between no weights and using weights. Of course the leg biceps need weight training though.
    Lol @ the 'leg bicep' bit....biceps femoris? You could train the hammies by doing russian leg curls outside the gym, among other things.

    And about those skinny guys...... if you do anything wrong for YEARS something is bound to come out of it. That doesn't mean it's an optimal training technique. In this case, the reason your leg development may have inproved is due to increasing the working capacity of the weakest point (in terms of ROM) of most knee dominant exercises: at the point where the thigh is parallel to the floor. It's called sticking point training, which isn't exclusive to yoga poses!
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    kracka - the lethargy isnt too too bad yet. its a small price to pay if that is the only side effect other than getting bigger and stronger.

    nothingman - it's going quite well. I started at 197 and im at 201 right now. so, nearly 3 weeks in and im about 4 pounds heavier which is not too bad considering im also leaning out a bit. I wasn't expecting to gain more than 10lbs on this cycle anyways.

    the pumps are great and my strength is increasing a little each week, nothing tremendous though. I do look a lot better though just judging by the mirror, which is what its all about!
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    day 21
    arm day

    tricep pushdown
    80 x 10
    95 x 8
    105 x 8 x 2

    dumbbell overhead press
    100 x 12
    105 x 10
    110 x 8 x 2 (PR for me!!)

    skull crushers with e-z curl bar
    90 x 10 x 3
    100 x 8

    tricep extensions machine
    80 x 8 x 4

    e-z bar curls
    90 x 8 x 3
    100 x 7

    dumbbell hammer curls
    40 x 8 x 2
    45 x 7 x 2

    preacher curl machine
    90 x 8 x 2
    105 x 7

    concentration curls
    35 x 8 x 3

    dumbbell curls
    40 x 6 x 2
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    day 22
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    day 23
    off day again unfortunatley. fathers day was spent with the good ole pops so no gym time for me.

    double up tomorrow though.
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    day 24
    Chest

    dumbbell bench
    90 x 10
    100 x 8
    100 x 6
    95 x 8

    dumbbell incline fly
    35 x 10
    40 x 10
    45 x 8 x 2

    decline bench
    205 x 12
    215 x 10
    225 x 8

    incline dumbbell bench
    80 x 8 x 3

    cable flys
    65 x 12 x 2 (on highest point)

    50 x 10 x 2 (on medium / eye level)

    25 x 12 x 2 (at lowest point)

    dips
    bodyweight til failure x 2
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    I'd suggest running hdrol for at least 6 weeks, and since you already bumped to 75mg, finish off at 100mg (if you have enough). You've got the nolva there, so you'll be sweet for PCT.

    Other tips from experience: up your intake of water to a ridiculous amount, check BP regularly, get taurine powder for the back pumps (week 3-4, especially after deads and squats) and invest in some cissus for your joints.

    Can'T wait for my spring / summer cut cycle of hdrol!!
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    thanks mick! yeah i had been playing around with the idea of a 6th week and will most likely do it. unfortunately i did the math and i dont have enough to bump it to 100 for the last week. wish i did, but i gotta work with what i have.

    and thanks for the suggestions on water intake. i have definitely been drinking 1.5 gallons or more per day. is that enough?

    the back pumps have ceased thank goodness.
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    day 25
    legs

    stiff legged dead lifts i have a bad lower back so i go light on these
    135 x 10 x 3 (warm up)
    205 x 8 x 4

    leg press with (calf raises in between sets)
    6 plate warm up x 10 x 2
    8 plates x 10 x 2
    10 plates x 8
    12 plates x 8 x 4
    8 plates x 10 (slow reps) x 2

    seat calf raises
    180 x 10
    200 x 8 x 2
    220 x 8 x 2
    180 x 10

    leg curls
    175 x 10 (felt like i strained something)
    150 x 10 x 3

    leg extensions
    170 x 10
    190 x 8
    200 x 8 x 2

    also did some core work

    weighted hanging leg raises
    30lb x 12 x 4

    ab machine
    65 x 12 x 4

    oblique twist machine
    90 x 10 x 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserbluess View Post
    thanks mick! yeah i had been playing around with the idea of a 6th week and will most likely do it. unfortunately i did the math and i dont have enough to bump it to 100 for the last week. wish i did, but i gotta work with what i have.

    and thanks for the suggestions on water intake. i have definitely been drinking 1.5 gallons or more per day. is that enough?

    the back pumps have ceased thank goodness.
    Yeah, I figured you might only have 2 bottles. I've always kept the dose at 50mg for the first 2.5 or 3 weeks, then up to 75mg when it really starts kicking in, then finish strong at 100mg.

    Water intake depends a lot on enviroment for me. I work in the Australian desert, so 1.5 gallons / 5 litres is minimal for my needs. If it's hot and you're doing physical labor, it's going to need to be higher. Office work, you should be sweet.

    If you're not getting liver or kidney ache or headaches, you"re good to go.

    Minimising caffiene is a good idea as well to keep BP down - save the pre WO stuff for PCT.
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    yeah man, def no preworkout stuff for me til PCT. ill be using muscle marinade or white flood, i cant decide between the two. guess i could just use both and see which i like better!

    and yeah, no headaches for me this go round. i think the cycle assist is really helping with the BP.
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    day 26
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    dual pulley row
    90 x 8 x 4
    95 x 8
    80 x 12

    DB shoulder press
    70 x 8 x 4

    lat pull downs
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    200 x 8 x 3
    150 x 10 x 2 (really squeezing tight and concentrating on flexing my back)

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    190 x 10
    210 x 10
    230 x 8 x 2

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    30 x 10 x 4

    high row machine
    180 x 8 x 2
    200 x 8 x 2

    low row machine
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    210 x 8 x 3

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    day 27
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserbluess View Post
    yeah man, def no preworkout stuff for me til PCT. ill be using muscle marinade or white flood, i cant decide between the two. guess i could just use both and see which i like better!

    and yeah, no headaches for me this go round. i think the cycle assist is really helping with the BP.
    Aah, white flood.... how I miss those beta alanine tingles!! Got a tub sitting at home too, might be time to crack it open

    How are you going with weight / size gains? Noticing it in the mirror?
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    right now im sitting at 205, which is good considering it started at 197 or so. i can definitely tell a difference in my upper chest and my shoulders. my mid section is looking a little leaner, but by no means do i have a 6 pack.

    my girlfriend had not seen me for 2 weeks and was asking what i was doing different cause apparently i look much larger. then again, she also wants me to take her shopping, so me thinks there is something else she might be playing at lulz.
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    Haha, six packs are overated imo, everytime I've had abs showing, i feel weak as. Like my body knows I'm not eating enough....

    Good gains so far. You cutting or recomp with this cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserbluess View Post
    right now im sitting at 205, which is good considering it started at 197 or so. i can definitely tell a difference in my upper chest and my shoulders. my mid section is looking a little leaner, but by no means do i have a 6 pack.

    my girlfriend had not seen me for 2 weeks and was asking what i was doing different cause apparently i look much larger. then again, she also wants me to take her shopping, so me thinks there is something else she might be playing at lulz.
    Nice news!
    I'll follow this though your PCT I am interested how that will go. H-Drol rips the fat off pretty good?
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