Oh please, Do tell. Inquireing minds want to know.Originally Posted by farmer
Mainly because I'm not too keen about stacking methyls so I wanted to keep the dose as low as possible on the new one (M1,4ADD). I like what I've seen so far so there shouldn't be any need to up the dosage.
Quite understandable. Thanks for the quick response and good luck - I'm positive you'll like the m1,4add.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
M1,4ADD is one methyl i haven't tried yet because i'm afraid of the bloat. i'm very prone to the ugly bloat on my stomach and face like with 4-ad. are you guys experiencing any bloat with M1,4ADD?
Nah, no bloat here. Feeling kinda lean actually.
No bloat here either. For those who are wondering, I went up 10mg and ran it for three days, then went up another 10mg for another three days and so on until I found what worked for me.
For some reason I have to take a higher dose of everything to get much effect except M1T. There's no way I can go over 10mg on that and still get off the couch.
i know exactly what you mean with the M1T lethargy. i couldn't do more than 10-15mg/day or i just felt like death not like i wasn't dying on just 10mg. maybe that's why i didn't feel anything till the 14th day and ran it almost 4 weeks total to get any gains. it was awesome lean gains, but i got real bad bloat towards the end of the cycle only.Originally Posted by farmer
If you guys say no bloat on M1,4ADD, i'm thinking of running it at 30mg/day for 1-4 weeks with M1T at 5mg/day for 2-4 weeks. what do you guys think? will it give me good lean gains with very minimal lethargy?
I know exactly what you mean here. Good thing I work night shifts by myself.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
that is my plan of action along with m5aa preworkout.. i may just do 20mg's of m1,4add however.. i haven't decided yet.. just doing m1,4add and m5aa preworkout at the moment..Originally Posted by lancelot
20mg of M1,4ADD is a waste.
Well, something is definately working. Weighed in at 263lbs last night. Deadlifts went up 1 rep from last week to 475 for 3 reps. Close grip pulldowns went up 30lbs from last week (cable is about to max out again). Underhand barbell rows up 10lbs from last week to 265 for 6 reps. Trying a little something new on biceps. Going for lower weight, higher reps after I read something in the training section yesterday. Gonna give it a try for a few weeks and see what happens. The pump was awful, couldn't even scratch my head afterwards without a spot. I'll take some measurements this weekend and see how things are going.
No bloat and excellent pumps.Originally Posted by lancelot
These back pumps are starting to get beyond my tolerance. I might have to cut the M1T down to 10mg's and if that doesn't work I might cut it out totally. If I bump it out totally, I'll bump the M1,4ADD up to 30mg's. Acne is starting to get out of hand also. I'm breaking out everywhere regardless of my water intake. Just a heads up on how things are going. Today is the 2 week mark since I started.
Beezlbub, Are you taking taurine? It should help a lot with the back pumps.
No, I haven't taken it but it's being strongly considered. I've had the back pumps before from past cycles but never this bad. I figured I might be one of the lucky ones but apparently not. Regardless, I dropped the M1T dosage to 10mgs last night and upped the M1,4ADD to 30mgs. So far the back pumps have subsided but the day is young.
yowza.. when i throw m1t into my cycle w/ m1,4add i may just take 5mg's then.. hopefully the UG labs pills aren't capped =/ I haven't looked at them yet..
oh and i'm taking 30mg's of m1,4add was thinking of upping it to 40mgs as it appears that everyone says a lot more than 20-30 is necessary..but i don't think i'll go crazy like 100mgs that's a lil too much..
When do the effects of m1,4add fully come into effect like 2 weeks?
Well, I heard 3 weeks before the full effect hits but I can't say for sure.
really?? damn! I guess i'll just have to deal with it combo'd with m1t.. =(
Guys, I don't mean to lecture or sound like a broken record, but if you are taking an adequate dose,ie at least 70 mg, it will not take ~3 weeks to kick in. As I started to dose above that in increments, the effect was almost imediate.Like I noticed a diference in only a day or two, and my weight would go up.
Just relaying my experience.