- 04-12-2004, 10:59 AM
Finally I'm ready to go ahead and start my cycle on this stuff.I heard some good stuff about it,so I'm really exited.
I'll be taking 30mg/day,got it from Sldge,of course.Cycle should last about 30days if iI won't go crazy,like some people we know and do 110mg/day
This will be bulking cycle,so I'll eat all I can put my hands on...usually I don't eat very clean,but I try.My protein will be up,so will carbs.
My weight is 175-6lbs. 5'11" high.I'll do pre/post pics,so you guys can see the difference.
In addition I'll be taking ON Whey,Isomatrix reloaded,fish oil,EFA,vit.E+C and multi.I'll get of swole and save it for post.I want a log just on m14add.
Wish me luck!
- 04-14-2004, 12:03 PM
No w/o today,because of school.Weight is up 1.5lbs. and I'm sure it's water even know I don't look like I'm holding any.
Headache went away(had one yesterday).I don't think it was M1,4ADD.
I'm eating and drinking like a horse
- 04-14-2004, 12:05 PM
W/o went ok,nothing to report.I'll try to keep this short and sweet,right to the point.
04-14-2004, 03:04 PM
I'm very interested in you body's response to this. Some have had only minor
luck with it, while MANY others say they llike it so much they will never use a different PH again. Good luck - keep us posted.
04-14-2004, 04:00 PM
Good luck.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
04-15-2004, 01:04 PM
Nothing major happening.Actually my weight went back to normal.I'm sure water weight will change thru the cycle.
Today was my leg workout and it was great.Next week I'll start posting changes on my weights.
Still hungry all the time.Just f*cking starving!Don't try this if you're cutting.Thats my honest advice.
Days 1-3 I was taking 30mg first thing in the morning,but starting today I'll split it in 15AM+15PM.Sldge said it schould be about 6hr. in between.
Started taking some HB for BP.Dose will be 1100x2 daily.That should help w/high BP if I get it.
04-15-2004, 02:04 PM
well if you are hungry it is starting to work, just keep yoru protein intake high. I know when i start to get real hungry I crave the worst things and none of them have protein.
04-15-2004, 04:04 PM
Also sledge, if stacking this with M5AA(only preworkout) you think it will be ok to take 30mg's a day? I'm only taking 20..
04-15-2004, 05:35 PM
I dont think there would be a problem using 20mgs preworkout only for a max of 4 days per week.
04-15-2004, 06:20 PM
Sorry I just realized I didn't make my post clear.. I meant would it be ok to up my M1,4ADD to 30?Originally Posted by Designer Supps
04-15-2004, 06:24 PM
oh yeah go right ahead.
04-15-2004, 10:47 PM
sweet, thanks.. and keep us updated littlemonster..
04-16-2004, 12:38 AM
I'll do what I can .I take @ least 2 shakes a day(3scoops of ON Whey+2scoops of Isomatrix reloded) + eating like 3 chicken breasts,beef...What ever I feel like,but I do keep it up.Originally Posted by Designer Supps
Thanks for replies,guys.
04-16-2004, 05:09 AM
I crave pancakes like it's crack.
I think is is important to make sure you have enough "fuel" for your workouts. To me, nothing is worse than mistiming your meals and hitting the gym hungry. Even with a preworkout/workout drink it just isn't the same unless I had a good meal a few hours before hand. It doesn't happen often and only when I'm extremely busy but it sucks much ass. Sometimes I just reschedule my workout for the next day.
04-16-2004, 03:51 PM
Todays workout was great.I'm really maxing out all my reps,so I'll be able to tell you guys the difference next week.
I'm still starving all the time,but I think my body is getting used to it.In the beginning I was so hungry I could hear it
Like I said I'm doing 15+15,1100+1100 HB and will start NAC next week just incase.
Vascularity seems to be up,maybe I'm seeing things
Weight didn't change.From that I hear it takes 14-16days to kick in.We'll see.
04-16-2004, 04:07 PM
Not if you're taking an effective dose.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
04-16-2004, 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Lean One
110? I have just one bottle.unless Sldge wants to count me in for that test @ higher doses
04-16-2004, 04:53 PM
Let me state here oficially, that i will gladly give up my share to you. If you have the cahones. Shoot Sldge a PM.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
04-16-2004, 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Lean One
cahones? how come you will give it up?changed your mind or because of pct?
04-16-2004, 06:10 PM
Yeah man. This cycle was longer than any I've done previous. I need to take a brake so I can go all out for summer. Besides, I get the feeling that you are relatively young.(compared to me. )I know when I was younger, money was tight. When the time comes for me, I can afford to mega dose it. Have fun.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
04-16-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Lean One
24.You think Sldge will go for it?How was you BP on this cycle w/doses like that?NM was having nose bleeds
04-16-2004, 07:10 PM
You'll have to PM Sldge. My BP was fine on M14ADD. M-Dien gave me headaches the first week, but Hawthorn berry and cellery seed knocked them out cold.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
04-16-2004, 08:14 PM
LM, if you ll up your dose and continue with the log, ill send you some. pm me your address.
04-17-2004, 12:17 AM
Originally Posted by Designer Supps
We'll be taking this to whole new level,bros
Last edited by LittleMonster; 04-17-2004 at 10:08 AM.
04-17-2004, 05:20 AM
Ahh, now you're yeally gonna see what this stuff can do. Not that I think you'll need it, but make sure you have some nolva just in case. It pays to be prepared.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
04-17-2004, 08:36 AM
So it's possible to take a lot more than 30mgs of M1,4ADD? I am taking 30mg's ED and 20mg's of M5AA (preworkout).. so if I upped the dose even to 50mg's there would be no problem?
04-17-2004, 09:08 AM
I believe that LO took it up to 110mgs with no problems. I think that some of us are going to test out high dosing w/ M1,4AD for Sledge and informational purposes. ...sides affects may include large gains in muscle mass
04-17-2004, 10:06 AM
Originally Posted by Lean One
got it before I started my cycle.how was your BP?did you take anything for it?
04-17-2004, 10:11 AM
I wouldn't worry about it from a side effect standpoint. What I would do however is to only stack the M5AA for the last two weeks of your cycle to harden up your gains and minimize the time that you are stacking 2 methyls. If you just up your dose of M14ADD until then, you'll probably notice nice strength gains. I know I did.Originally Posted by propho
04-17-2004, 01:13 PM
Weight is the same 176lbs.
Strength seem to be little bit up,but I think I'll start seeing more changes next week.Tomorrow I'm taking off,so I'll report on Mon.
Dose is still 15+15.
04-17-2004, 03:24 PM
On M14ADD, I had no problems. only a couple points higher on diastolic BP. M-Dien gave me haedaches and put me up to borderline high for me. Hawthorn berry and cellery seed worked wonders. Killed the headaches and I've been side effect free ever since.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
04-17-2004, 04:12 PM
How much Hawthorn and Cellery were you taking?
04-18-2004, 07:11 AM
Hawthorn 150mg 3 x DayOriginally Posted by phatbody
Celery Seed 600mg 3 x Day
04-19-2004, 01:21 PM
Upping my dose to 40mg :D
This is official.I'm up to 40mg this week starting today.Feel great!Todays workout seem to be better that yesterdays.
Sides:nothing major to report other that had a 2 minor nose bleeds last week,but I'm not sure was it m14add or what.That is new to me though.I don't usually get those.Also got some muscle cramps today on my chest workout.Could be not enough worm up,but just in case-I'll be getting some bananas
04-19-2004, 01:30 PM
I promised to post my weights,so here I go:
LAST WEEK WAS
Flys 4x8,7,5,4 @ 50
BP 4x6,5,4,3 @185
Incline flys 4x8,6,4,3 @ 40
Incline BP 4x8,6,4,4 @105
Flys 4x10,9,7,5 @50(will be adding next week)
BP 4x6,5,3,3 @185
Inc.flys 4x8,6,5,4 @40(endur.is up)
Inc.BP 4x3...cramp,5,3,2...cramps got me
04-19-2004, 02:24 PM
LM, are you doing any cardio?
04-19-2004, 04:08 PM
whoops late response.. I'm kinda iffy about taking M5AA everyday because of the fact that it's DHT .. i love my hair.. and my grandfather on my mom's side was bald.. so i'm scared =POriginally Posted by Lean One
04-20-2004, 12:35 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... no cardio for me,man.I have hard time gaining as it isOriginally Posted by Lean One
04-20-2004, 06:03 AM
I gotta be honest with you here. That excuse is a myth. As long as you are not doing cardio at high intensities for extended periods, It will actually HELP you recover,and increase insulin sensitivity, Witch will amount to BETTER gains.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
More importantly though, it will go a long way in keeping your BP in check,helping to prevent nosebleeds, and just making you HEALTHIER over all.
JMHO, I'm not trying to lecture. I'm just looking out for your best intrests.
I used to think the same way, and thought I was the ultimate hard gainer until I really dialed in my training and most importantly my nutrition.
I just finished my last cycle gaining 12 lbs. Solid w/no fat gain, and I do an hr of cardio EVERY DAY. Sometimes twice. I'm not saying you need to do that. 25 min 3 or 4 times a week will go a long way in boosting cardiovascular health.
Just something to think about.
04-20-2004, 07:18 AM
I like doing a couple of sets of sprints myself.
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