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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    I gotta be honest with you here. That excuse is a myth. As long as you are not doing cardio at high intensities for extended periods, It will actually HELP you recover,and increase insulin sensitivity, Witch will amount to BETTER gains.

    More importantly though, it will go a long way in keeping your BP in check,helping to prevent nosebleeds, and just making you HEALTHIER over all.
    JMHO, I'm not trying to lecture. I'm just looking out for your best intrests.
    I used to think the same way, and thought I was the ultimate hard gainer until I really dialed in my training and most importantly my nutrition.

    I just finished my last cycle gaining 12 lbs. Solid w/no fat gain, and I do an hr of cardio EVERY DAY. Sometimes twice. I'm not saying you need to do that. 25 min 3 or 4 times a week will go a long way in boosting cardiovascular health.

    Just something to think about.
    Good one.I never thought about it that way.How about punching a bag,does that count as cardio?I hate running.Maybe I'll do some bike riding.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleMonster
    Good one.I never thought about it that way.How about punching a bag,does that count as cardio?I hate running.Maybe I'll do some bike riding.
    Thanks
    I would opt for bike riding,though I hate exercise bikes as much as running. I have a stepper at home, and when I do cardio at the gym I like to use the eliptical. The key is to do anything that involves the large muscles of the legs and hips.(your ass). This will get your heartrate up eficiently and large muscles burn more fat.
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    Day 9


    Everything pretty the same.Up 1lb..Feel great on this stuff: no lathergy or acne(not yet),eating like a wildman

    Training:

    LAST WEEK
    Wide grip pullups 4x8,6,4,4(body weight)
    C/g pullups 4x7,6,5,4(b/w)
    Deadlifts 3x8,6,6 @ 215lbs.

    TODAY
    W/g pullups 4x10,6,5,4(b/w) -nice!
    C/g pullups 4x9,6,6,4(b/w) -nice!
    Mashine rows 4x8,6,5,4 @110lbs. (felt like adding more stuff to my workout)
    Deadlifts 3x12,6,4 @225lbs.! -loved it

    GREAT WORKOUT!!!
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    LM, I just finished up with IGF and started M14AD 6 days ago at 60mg daily along with PGH. Bumped it up to 80 yesterday (Monday) will probably stick with 80 till both my bottles run out, have noticed good fullness and pumps 24/7. Weight is up 1.5 lbs, which is fine, not looking for much more then a pound a week and keeping the BF off. Haven't noticed any sides, nose bleeds, etc., but I have 2 bottles of Nolva and some other ancillaries around in case. Gonna throw some IGF back in the mix in a couple weeks along with the M5AA for 2 wks at the end like Lean One suggests.

    Haven't done any PH's/AAS in a year or so, damn it feels awesome to have some good exogenous androgens kicking in

    Good Luck Bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gobig1
    LM, I just finished up with IGF and started M14AD 6 days ago at 60mg daily along with PGH. Bumped it up to 80 yesterday (Monday) will probably stick with 80 till both my bottles run out, have noticed good fullness and pumps 24/7. Weight is up 1.5 lbs, which is fine, not looking for much more then a pound a week and keeping the BF off. Haven't noticed any sides, nose bleeds, etc., but I have 2 bottles of Nolva and some other ancillaries around in case. Gonna throw some IGF back in the mix in a couple weeks along with the M5AA for 2 wks at the end like Lean One suggests.

    Haven't done any PH's/AAS in a year or so, damn it feels awesome to have some good exogenous androgens kicking in

    Good Luck Bro!
    Sounds great,man! Good luck to you also.
    PS: post your results here if you want
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    Day 10


    Up 2lbs.-no sides yet.Feel like a million bucks

    Training:

    Squats 4x12,9,8,6 @225lbs.(felt like I could do 235lbs.) -up 10lbs
    Calves
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    ps: keep in mind that my gym is in a garage,so I don't have all the fancy equipment
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    Day 12


    Yesterday was my day OFF,so nothing to report.

    Upped my dose today to 60mg

    No side effects to report.Feel great on this stuff.Strengh is up again.

    Training:

    LAST WEEK(all weight don't include a bar) TODAY
    Standing barbell curls 4x8,6,4,3 @76lbs. 4x9,6,4,4@76
    Incl.dumbbell curls 4x8,6,5,4 @30lbs. 4x10,6,5,5@30
    Dips 4x15,6,6,5 (b/w) 4x15,8,6,4(b/w)
    Seated triceps presses 4x8,6,5,5 @60lbs. 4x10,7,6,4@60

    Looks like we'll be adding some weight next week
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    Day 13


    Taking a day off.

    Got by 2 bottles from Sldge today...Thanks,man.
    Next week I'll be working my way up to a 100mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleMonster
    Taking a day off.

    Got by 2 bottles from Sldge today...Thanks,man.
    Next week I'll be working my way up to a 100mg
    This is gonna be cool.
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    yeah i am looking forward to this. i have someone else testing it at 40mgs per day and is doingreally well also, so I still think 100mg per day will be to much for most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps
    yeah i am looking forward to this. i have someone else testing it at 40mgs per day and is doingreally well also, so I still think 100mg per day will be to much for most.
    how long has he been on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    This is gonna be cool.
    I'm looking forward to this.How long did you do 80+ for? I ordered BP monitor just in case
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleMonster
    I'm looking forward to this.How long did you do 80+ for? I ordered BP monitor just in case
    80~110 for 2 weeks. My BP was fine the whole time. If you notice an increase, just use HB and CS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    80~110 for 2 weeks. My BP was fine the whole time. If you notice an increase, just use HB and CS.
    I'm on 3300/day HB right now .Better safe than sorry.
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    Sledge has me doing 60mg a day in one dose. On workout days I take the 60 mg dose about an hour before workouts. I've been doing 60mg a day for about a week and I haven't really noticed a difference. I did get some nice strength gains my first week on 30mg a day. The next week I bumped up to 60mg a day and the strength levels went up just a little bit. I will continue the 60mg dose for about the next 30 days. I also take about 500mg HB, 1500mg Celery Seed and 700mg Milk Thistle every day. I will update here if I notice any changes.

    Edited: Once again, thanks Sledge.
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    Day 14


    I'm up to 80mg. today .Feel great.No sides to report.

    Workout:

    Last week (w/o a bar/dumbell) Today
    Arnold presses 4x8,6,4,4 @30 4x9,7,6,5 @30
    Rear latterals 4x8,6,5,4 @15 4x8,6,5,5 @15
    Streight latterels 4x7,5,4,4 @20 4x8,6,5,4@20
    Upright rows 4x6,4,4,2 @70 4X7,5,5,3@70
    Barbell shrugs(behind) 4x8,7,6,5 @135 4x9,7,6,5@135

    Next week I'll start adding weight.Strengh is up in bigger muscle groups more dramatic than small.
    Weight gain didn't start yet,but I'm looking forward to this week.Up 1.5lbs. so far.
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    No problem guys, we will get to the bottom of the dosing scheme one way or another.
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    Day 15


    Strengh was thru the roof today :
    -Flys 4x14@55?,then upped to 60 and did 7,5,5 last week I was @50!!!
    -BP 4x6,4,3,2 @185
    -Incl.flys 4x10 @40,upped to 45 and finished 7,5,3
    -Incl.bp 4x6,4,3,3 @115

    Over all it was awesome w/o and it felt great.I love it so far.Can't wait for those gains.It should start coming any time now.
    Tomorrow is my last day on 80mg. and then we'll join 100mg club
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    Day 16


    W/o was ok today.Not much to report.

    Added weight to couple back ex.:
    Rows-10lbs.
    Deadlifts 10lbs.

    No sides.Will weigh myself tomorrow.
    Added 600mg of r-ala by Syntrax to my stack to help my liver out.Tomorrow will up to 100mg.150?Maybe next week
    Still waiting on BP monitor,should be any day now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleMonster
    W/o was ok today.Not much to report.

    Added weight to couple back ex.:
    Rows-10lbs.
    Deadlifts 10lbs.

    No sides.Will weigh myself tomorrow.
    Added 600mg of r-ala by Syntrax to my stack to help my liver out.Tomorrow will up to 100mg.150?Maybe next week
    Still waiting on BP monitor,should be any day now.
    nice updates.. i'm taking 60mg of m1,4add myself now.. 30 morning 30 at night along with 40mg m5aa preworkout.. doing real good with that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by propho
    nice updates.. i'm taking 60mg of m1,4add myself now.. 30 morning 30 at night along with 40mg m5aa preworkout.. doing real good with that..
    How long have you been on it?Whats your weight?Any sides?

    Good luck,man
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    Day 17


    Today was FU*KING AWESOME !!!
    My leg day just rock out.I was impressed w/strengh gain.

    Last week-squats 4x12,9,8,6 @ 225
    Today 4X16 @225(had to go up);then 10,9,7@245

    Got my BP monitor 45min. post-workout 136(normal-high)/79(optimal) and pulse of 102.It might be that it's just because of post-w/o.I'll do it tonight again.
    Weight is 178.5(+2.5)lbs. I think gains will start to come now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleMonster
    How long have you been on it?Whats your weight?Any sides?

    Good luck,man
    I've been doing 60mgs for about 4 days now.. worked my way up from 20mgs like 2 weeks ago.. i'm at about 178lbs started at 174.. no sides so far.. maybe some pimples?

    other than that seems real good so far.. although i went bowling a week ago and messed up my arms.. right around the elbow.. so i've been going kinda easy on them.. just doing lighter weights and doing legs.. although before that i noticed a lot of strength gain.. this is still phase 1 of my cycle.. will be moving to m1t then finishing off with m-dien and taking a long break..
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    Quote Originally Posted by propho
    I've been doing 60mgs for about 4 days now.. worked my way up from 20mgs like 2 weeks ago.. i'm at about 178lbs started at 174.. no sides so far.. maybe some pimples?

    other than that seems real good so far.. although i went bowling a week ago and messed up my arms.. right around the elbow.. so i've been going kinda easy on them.. just doing lighter weights and doing legs.. although before that i noticed a lot of strength gain.. this is still phase 1 of my cycle.. will be moving to m1t then finishing off with m-dien and taking a long break..
    Did I get this right? m14add followed by m1t then md?That sounds crazy,man.I assume you have a lot of experience w/PH.So how long will this one last?
    Keep that nolva handy
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    Bp@1am- 142(stage 1 hypertension)/63(<80 is optimal)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleMonster
    Bp@1am- 142(stage 1 hypertension)/63(<80 is optimal)
    Do your cardio!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    Do your cardio!
    I wish I had the time...between work-school-training...I have sh*t left.My wife hates me already
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    Shoulder w/o went pretty simular to last weeks.Added 5lbs./ea. to my arnold presses(dumbells).
    Weight this morning is 179(+3)lbs.So far so good.BP this morning 147/69.I guess as long as Diastolic # is under 90 we are good,or so they say...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleMonster
    I wish I had the time...between work-school-training...I have sh*t left.My wife hates me already
    She'll miss you when you have a heart attack or stroke out at 40.

    End of my lecture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    She'll miss you when you have a heart attack or stroke out at 40.

    End of my lecture.
    funny!

    I was off for 3 days so Mon. I'll be back on track.Still feeling great.I want to see what I'll weigh in the morning...
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    I can't say that I notice a difference between 30mg/day and 60mg/day. My strength has been steadily increasing but my weight has stayed the same. And even thought I am increasing the weights they are becoming easier to move, I feel like I could lift MORE. I haven't noticed this superman feeling some of the other guys have gotten nor the superpumps but the feeling of manhandling the 95lb dumbbells is pretty nice.

    Here are some of my increases (I do 3 sets of 6):

    DB Incline went from 75lbs to 95lbs
    Squats went from 250lbs to 295lbs
    Standing DB Curls went from 35lbs to 50-45lbs
    Leg Extentions went from 160lbs to 200lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatbody
    I can't say that I notice a difference between 30mg/day and 60mg/day. My strength has been steadily increasing but my weight has stayed the same. And even thought I am increasing the weights they are becoming easier to move, I feel like I could lift MORE. I haven't noticed this superman feeling some of the other guys have gotten nor the superpumps but the feeling of manhandling the 95lb dumbbells is pretty nice.

    Here are some of my increases (I do 3 sets of 6):

    DB Incline went from 75lbs to 95lbs
    Squats went from 250lbs to 295lbs
    Standing DB Curls went from 35lbs to 50-45lbs
    Leg Extentions went from 160lbs to 200lbs
    not bad,man...keep it up.I think you should be taking higher doses if you want to see some weight gain.
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    Day 22


    It has been 3weeks. and I still feel no sides.I'm doing 100mg...split 50/50
    Weight went up from 176-181.5...not bad.I think my tabs. will last me about 5wks.,so thats how long cycle will last.

    W/o was pretty good,again.Added 5lbs. to my DB Flys(flat),everything else in my chest w/o is the same.
    Most of my strengh gains came in after 2nd week and now it's going up just little by little...
    I noticed that my endurance is really not that great.I don't think this PH is best for that.Will see what happens.

    Later
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    I guess I'm just experiencing weight gain of a different kind!
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    Day 22


    Weight is about the same.Actually I'm down 0.5 lb.

    W/o was pretty good.Added 20lbs. to deadlifts and 10lbs. to back rows.I noticed that I'm not as hungry anymore vs. first couple of weeks.Maybe my body just adapted to the change?

    There is a pic from todays w/o
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    You dont look like you are retaining much water, keep up the good work.
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    I haven't noticed any water retention either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps
    You dont look like you are retaining much water, keep up the good work.
    You're right...it seems that I'm not gaining too much water,but I guess will have to see
    I have plenty of m14add left.I want 5 more lbs.(keepers )
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    Day 25


    Yesterday where was nothing to report.
    Todays I added weight to my barbell curls(+10) and incline curls(+5),so w/o went pretty good.I love my workouts so far.Still waiting on those lbs. though...
    I actually lost another lb. It's probably water.One more week or so left.
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    What is your dose at?
  

  
 

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