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Old 11-04-2009, 11:39 AM  
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Need some advice for fors ph/ds cycle.


sorry for the lengthy post, but i need to be throrough.

-cliffs
-Havoc and/or winabol (orastan-a)?
-cycle length 4w or bridge methyl Havoc 3-4wk then nonmethyl 3-4wk then nolva pct 4-6wk?
-what liver support? (going to run multi and lipid stabil)
-creatine on cycle?

stats
age-21
weight225-230
bf-17%
years lifting-5

goals -recomposition, maintain the scale weight but drop the body fat
-help speed recovery of back injured a year ago in very bad car accident(week musculature and weak/inflamed connective tissue)

Was initially going to run test-e for maintenance and deca for the muscles c.t., but my source got pinched.

Looking to run a mild ph. I've got winabol and Havoc on hand. was initailly going to stack the non methylated winnabol (demethylated furzabol/winstrol properties) with havoc. upon further research, i've found they both act on androgen receptors, so it would supersaturate and be a waste. On top of that, Havoc has a stronger affinity to androgen receptor, would probably be a complete waste of the winabol.

I was thinking of bridging a 3 or 4 week cycle of each and wanted to get some opinions

Option a
week 1-4
Havoc
20/30/30/40 (84 tabs) extend 2 days to finish bottle
week 4-7
winabol
150/150/150/ (only have 60 tabs, so cut one day short)
pct of nolva
(not sure how to dose it)

option b, 4 week of either substance
Havoc
20/30/30/40

Winabol
50/100/150/150 (cut 1 day short)

winabol contains
5a- androstano[2,3-c]furazan-17-tetrahydropyranol ether 50mg
magnesium 200mg %50
potassium 90mg %3
vitamin b6 20 mg %1000

havoc
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol

Last edited by polarbearbear; 11-04-2009 at 11:46 AM. Reason: updated option b
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:37 PM  
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bump
doing some research,was thinking of running 2 bottles of winnabol
200/250/250/250
so epi same as before weeks 1-4, then winnabol weeks 5-8 followed by pct?

or should i just run the epi standalone first cycle, ad save the winny for my next cycle
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