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On cycle shoud I Sust or Enanth?

  1.  03-04-2004  11:19 AM
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    Lightbulb On cycle shoud I Sust or Enanth?


    GOAL:
    More Mass
    EXPERIENCE:
    1 year of being serious about training
    WORKOUT:
    HiiT Cardio,
    A Mix of different workout styles all compound movements.
    NUTRITION:
    Diet will be pretty clean lot's of Hormel Turkey Chili and canned chicken.
    Nlarge2, whey protein
    HEIGHT:
    6ft.
    WEIGHT:
    230lbs.
    BF:
    15%
    MAXLIFTS:
    Bench 315lbs.
    Squat 405lbs.
    Straight Bar curl 90 - 115lbs.
    I am finally starting my cycle this evening and need advice prior to starting I have 12 amps of Sust, four 10ml vials of est Enan and 100 50mg dbol tabs.

    How long, how much and which Test should I use? I will use the dbol 1 tab prior to each workout. I respond very well to prohormones and aas this will be my second cycle.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    DREi



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    OK, here's an idea:

    Week 1-10 500mg/week Test Enan
    Week 1-2 2 amp/week Sust
    Week 3-8 1 amp/week Sust
    Week 1-4 30-50mg/day dbol

    That would have you front loading the sust esters and ending on the shorter enan esters. Just an idea. For a second cycle that should work nicely.

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    Originally Posted by candle25
    OK, here's an idea:

    Week 1-10 500mg/week Test Enan
    Week 1-2 2 amp/week Sust
    Week 3-8 1 amp/week Sust
    Week 1-4 30-50mg/day dbol

    That would have you front loading the sust esters and ending on the shorter enan esters. Just an idea. For a second cycle that should work nicely.

    Candle Thanks for the quick reply! I will definitely be doing your recommended cycle. This will be my first time pinning and I'm a lil' scared but I hear it's no so bad after it's done the first time.

    Thanks,

    DREi

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    Originally Posted by candle25
    OK, here's an idea:

    Week 1-10 500mg/week Test Enan
    Week 1-2 2 amp/week Sust
    Week 3-8 1 amp/week Sust
    Week 1-4 30-50mg/day dbol

    This is way too much.

    Just use 500mg test enanthate for 10 weeks and dbol at 50mg on lifting days for the first 4 weeks.

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    What size said. I wouldn't use sustanon on a first cycle, it can hurt like hell.

    Size laid you out a good starter cycle, and overkill isn't needed on a first time.

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    Yes... if this is your first real cycle, just use 500mg of enan per week and 50mg dbol per day for 4 weeks. What's your PCT look like?

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    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

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    Nothing but 6OXO, ROFLMAO

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    Originally Posted by drei
    I respond very well to prohormones and aas this will be my second cycle.
    I agree with size, but I thought this was your second cycle. My mistake.

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    Ahhh.... I thought he meant second cycle inclusive. What was your first cycle drei?

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    My mistake.

    However, you still do not need over 750mg of test weekly.

  11.  03-04-2004  10:33 PM
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    Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Ahhh.... I thought he meant second cycle inclusive. What was your first cycle drei?

    ManBeast
    My first cycle I did wrong because I stacked dbol and m-1-t for a month and a half. I had crazy gains but my Doc wanted to kick my ass for punishing my liver like that.

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    Originally Posted by drei
    My first cycle I did wrong because I stacked dbol and m-1-t for a month and a half. I had crazy gains but my Doc wanted to kick my ass for punishing my liver like that.

    That being the case, my first sugegstion is fine:
    Weeks 1-10: 500 mg test enanthate
    Weeks 1-4: 50mg dbol either ed or just on lifting days

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    Hey Size : off topic: Are steroids legal in your country?

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