Scotty's T1 journal

[scotty2]

Originally posted by sage


aight big man....(sigh) im not even in your deebo level zip code man. A little one at 180 and 5'9-5'10. on top of that, gaining weight while dropping bf% i see...you beast (ha). you using only 6oxo postcycle? and what dose?

600mg/day for 3 weeks

[Biggs]

Originally posted by scotty2
Finally, got past 260 today, all the way to 261. I may have to extend the cycle a day or 2, still haven't gotten my 6 oxo.

nice bro... ya huge ass bitch about 3 weeks on oxo then pull your 16 weeker eh? looks like this cycle did really well for you, you were able to keep most of the food down, and what you didn't keep down, you picked up, dusted off, and crammed back in!

[Chemo]

Scotty, once you get to post cycle do everyone a favor and summarize your cycle with any annotation you feel is appropriate. As you can see, this thread is the first real world comparison of T-1 Pro versus T-1 and is listed in my signature. The gains appear comparable and as T-1 is MUCH cheaper it may be in their best interest to consider a more cost effective alternative. However, if your gains were more lean on T-1 Pro this should be taken into account as well.

Give your post cycle stats and thoughts then once again after finishing your post cycle therapy. Much gratitude bro and congrats on another excellent cycle!

Chemo

[Biggs]

Originally posted by Chemo
The gains appear comparable and as T-1 is MUCH cheaper it may be in their best interest to consider a more cost effective alternative. However, if your gains were more lean on T-1 Pro this should be taken into account as well.

Not to speak for Scotty, but want to throw this up while I'm thinking about it, I believe he actually did gain, lean mass-wise, a fair amount more on the previous cycle, using less T1-Pro in the process, and was happier with it. Will let the man tell his own story though

[scotty2]

Alright, 262 today. Will dump the remaining T1 on myself today, extended it by one day, because I just got the 6 oxo today, so no harm done. I gained 14 lbs on this 4 week cycle, as opposed to 18 on the previous T1 pro cycle, which was a lot lower dosed. A couple things to keep in mind when comparing the 2 cycles. One, I was 265 last year, albeit fat, there was a lot of size. I dieted down to 207. When I began bulking, I gained 15lbs in 2 weeks. So, when I started the first cycle I was 222. point is, on the first cycle, I think a lot was muscle memory. In other words, I believe it's size I would've gained anyway, just a lot faster with the ph. The second cycle was a little harder simply due to my size, the bigger you get the harder it is, I believe to put on any more good, clean size. I am not sure if I did a heavy cycle on T1 pro that I would have gained any less/more. The **** definetely works, as I was a skeptic prior. A couple things I have learned. One, use rubber gloves to apply, the DMSO tore up my skin, had an unsightly rash wherever I applied, and remember, I applied up to 10 squirts/day. Two, I will never do a cycle of any kind again without running an anti-e simultaneously due to the bloating and little outbreak of stubbrn rash-like acne. I will be doing a cycle again in May during cutting. Debating whether or not to do a 1 test alone(as I felt no lethargy on this cycle, or from UA) or a 4AD + viratase. A little input would be appreciated.

[John Benz]

Scotty, what's your rough estimate on bf now? Also, can I pin you down? Would you firmly recommend one of these 2 products over the other, or is it still a tossup?

[scotty2]

Had bf measured about 3 weeks ago, was 19.4 on dunham test(?) I suspect this method to be a little askew. I was measured at 17% when I was a whole lot leaner than this. Also, there were no thigh measurements taken. I really couldn't recommend one or the other. I guess I would go with the T1 for bulking, for several reasons. One, my strength really shot up with the T1. Two, the price.

[scotty2]

Yesterday was last day. This morning scale said 263, so 15lbs gained on this cycle. Can't wait to cut.

[scotty2]

Now, 3 days off cycle, I weighed 265. I am a well-oiled bulking machine(fatty).

[Chemo]

Congatulations on another successful bulking cycle and the courtesy to share your experiences with others. Be sure to keep this updated as your post cycle continues.

18 pounds (first cycle, T-1 Pro) + 15 pounds (second cycle, T-1) = 33 pounds! You are a bulking monster

CHemo

[scotty2]

Originally posted by Chemo
Congatulations on another successful bulking cycle and the courtesy to share your experiences with others. Be sure to keep this updated as your post cycle continues.

18 pounds (first cycle, T-1 Pro) + 15 pounds (second cycle, T-1) = 33 pounds! You are a bulking monster

CHemo

I don't **** around, boss!

[Nelson]

Great threads Scotty.
Lots of useful info.
What was your training routine like for both cycles?
And how did you alter your training during post-cycle?

[scotty2]

Training on was about 14-16 sets per group. Off cycle, switched to max ot.

[xXx]

Perhaps you already stated in this thread the dosing you were using on both cycles but I did not see it. What was dosing with the T1 and the T1 Pro and how much(1/2 bottle whole bottle) did you use for each cycle?

[scotty2]

Used 1/2 bottle of T1 pro. Used 2 bottles of T1.

[xXx]

So if my calculations are correct you were using a lot more PH on your T1 cycle. Using the Dosing sticky I calculated the weekly absorbption rate, assuming that each cycle was 4 weeks long.
1st cycle - T1 Pro(1/2 bottle) - 467mg 1-test and 233mg 4AD
2nd cycle - T1(2 bottles) - 932 mg 1-Test and 1868 mg 4AD

Does this look correct?

[scotty2]

I believe it's incorrect. On the T1 cycle, I think it was 333mg 1 test and 667mg 4ad/day

[Biggs]

woo... 1gram 1 test, 2g 4ad... damn scotty, you more hardcore than I thought

[xXx]

I think that is about right. You posted the actual amount applied in my post it what was actually asbsorbed, well absortion estimated using the sticky posted by curt. At any rate that looks like you are hardcore Comming soon my T1 Pro results. Finish up in two days and I will post my results and opinions next week. I think that it will supprise a few around here.