I've not gotten any of the PCT depression yet. I haven't really ran anything strong enough to cause it I suppose. What is the target hormone of the 4OHT that you're talking about? I quit keeping up with PH's since AAS are way cheaper...lol.
I don't know much about hydroxy test other than its mildly anti-estrogenic, stimulates libido, and is mildy anabolic. Most people have a positive experience adding it to a stack but for some reason it just didn't agree with my wiring, lol.
I didn't gain much weight with that stack but I did get a great body comp change.
BTW- I'm all better now..really.
I'm up 12 pounds so far in this cycle. Going for a 4 weeker. Strength has increased, body comp has deff. been changing, improved vascularity, and muscle hardness. So far this stack is working for me. I decreased my doses of my dermal and the agression and moodiness seem under control now.
One fact, I now get hard when the wind blows...if you know what I mean. Haven't been like that since high school. Like when the teacher unexpectedly called on you to give a presentation in front of the class and you needed to take some extra time to get things calmed down. Mind of its own, I'm tellin' ya.
I hear ya bro. I'm loving my hightened libido and so is my girl...lol. I'm about to order some cabergoline and experiment with it. I'm doing some viagra/GF juice experiments tonight.
Today was a great day at the gym. Lifts were nice and my energy level is going back up. That alcohol Wen night really killed my program...lol. I weiged in at 184.5 which has been rather solid for 4-5 days now. I'll post up some pics later. I guess I'm about as cut as I'm going to get on this cycle.
OK here are the pics. What do ya think? I still have a bit more fat around the mid section that I care to have. I will cut for longer next time. I can't pose worth a damn...lol.
Weiged in at 184 today. Tomorrow is the last day of my cut. I'm rather happy with the overall results. I have built a great base for my next bulk. I will be stopping all cardio after I run tomorrow. I'm afraid that with my cals so low I'd do more damage than good. I will be bumping my cals up to 2500 starting mon.
I decided to upload another pic as I feel that the last one makes me look fatter than I am...lol. This will be the last pic for a while.
Lookin' solid Candle. Good job!
Thanks bro. I have a ways to go to get to where I want to be, but I know we all have to start somewhere. I'll post up my final BF% later when I get back form the gym.
My BF% checked out at 10.7% at 185lbs!!! I am really happy with that being that I started this cut 4 weeks ago at 16% and 189.75lbs. That means that managed to lose 10.56lbs of fat and gain 5.81lbs of muscle during this 4 week cut! If any of you have cut before you know that it is difficult to gain muscle while losing fat. I am very pleased with the results of the transdermal and the overall cut cycle.
great thread candle...exactly what I was looking for...this is the exact cycle I want to run. Couple questions...
1. Why didnt you go with a transdermal for both 4ad "AND" 1 test? as I really want to do 1test transdermally.
2. what product did you use for the m5aa?
3. and at what dosages were all these at, and for how many weeks? I think I may just follow whatever you did. think you can help me plan this cycle?
1. Well the 4AD helps to keep the libido up while on cycle and is a great compound. I love the stuff and so does my girl...lol (when I take it that is). I chose transdermal because I brew everything myself and I had seen good results from other bros.
2. Mix 0.5g M%-aa & 49.5ml of PEG-400. Heat and shake. You have 50ml @ 10mg/ml.
3. The dosage and absorbance is outlined on the first page of this thread. I ran it for 4 weeks.
Feel free to PM me if ya need any help or have any questions. Remeber that your diet will determine the outcome of your program.
why did you only take the m5aa on training days, arent you supposed to take PH's everyday throughout the cycle, regardless of days off. Also how many weeks did you run this at?
and could you explain this to me...
Transdermal 1T/4AD (1:1 ratio at 6g each)
8.57ml/day = 429mg/day
Absorbance will be in the range of 128.57- 214.29mg/day
I understand thst transdermals have a 30-40% absorbtion rate,but....also did you take 429mg of both 1 test and 4ad? exactly? how do you get to those exact numbers, im a bit confused.
could you give me an example of how a day would look for you, ie. wake up-shower-sqiurts 1t on chest, take 30mg m5aa, 12 hours later.....etc. and give the exact dosages. I would really appreciate it.
I am thinking...
30mg M5aa all 4 weeks
300mg 1test week 1, 400mg week 2, 500mg week 3 & 4
400mg 4AD week 1,500mg week 2, 600mg week 3 & 4
40mg nolvadex 2 weeks
20mg nolvadex 2weeks
and I will look into the milk thistle for pct also.
only other supps Ill be taking is clebutrx or lipo 6 throughout, and maybe creatine during pct.
what do you think?
M5aa is different than other PH's. It is only used pre wo. I ran it for all 8 weeks. That includes PCT.Originally Posted by sugashane
ok, I put 6g of 4AD & 6g of 1T (for a total of 12g) in 240 ml of transdermal.Originally Posted by sugashane
12/240=0.05g/ml . I ran it for 4 weeks=28days. 240/28=8.57ml/day.
8.57ml/day=429mg/day (214.5mg of 1T & 214.5mg of 4AD).
Of that 128.57- 214.29mg/day was absorbed (64.28mg- 107.14mg of 1T & the same for 4AD)
Hope that helps.
Well the spray bottle I used sprayed 1ml/spray. So my day looked like:Originally Posted by sugashane
Morning: 2.5 sprays. 5AM
Morning: 2 Sprays. 9AM
Afternoon: 2 Sprays. 1PM
After Shower: 2 Sprays. 5PM
I chose 5PM as the last because the stuff kind of hypes you up.
you can run the m5aa that long...8 weeks?
I'm not sure how long others are running it. I just used it because I had it.
ya m5aa a lot of people take preworkout since i've heard it's half-life is very short.. effects last only like 1 hour..
so I shouldnt take it on days I dont work out, and how long before I work out? a half hour maybe, and all 30mg at once?Originally Posted by propho
30min-1hr before wo is good. Start out at 30mg and go up if you don't feel it working.Originally Posted by sugashane