PH or Steroids for lean gains and cutting

wolfe14

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Hello this will be my first cycle of any type of un natuaral anabolics..My goals are to put on some muscle mass but mainly lean out and harden up..I really am trying get shreded, esp the midsection. I know diet has the most effect on that. But could anyone recommend a PH or possibly even a steroid cycle to help me with my goals.. I want to keep acne to a minimum and keep in mind it will be my first cycle..

PH or steroids???
 
Finaflex 550-XD...Solid gains, dry, and will help lean you out, if you are already somewhat lean and want to get that vascular hard look. Cycled it twice already and in another 2 months will hit it again.
 
i would say finaflex 550 is a bad call for your first cycle its got superdrol and tren in it if im not mistaken to much for a first run i ran havoc and it was awsome lbm gains of about 8 pounds on a 5 week cycle doses 40 mg last two weeks and kept 6 pounds i do tons of cardio and was at about 7 percent bf% when i was done u can always try tren tho its not unheard of to get near the same type of gains
 
Sorry, missed that it was the first cycle, I agree that Finaflex would not be a good starter, but it is a good cycle when you are ready.
 
thanks for the replies guys..Are these Prohormones that you are suggesting or real steroids? Cause Im weighing the idea of either..Just dont know what would be better..ive heard of havoc and hdrol being good for my goals..would you agree? Also Ive been researching anavar & winstrol as well if i do real gear..

I am lean everywhere but i def carry more fat on the lovehandles and abs, i always have and that is my main goal to get shreded there while continuing to get harder & musclular everywhere else..

so what would be a recommended COMPLETE cyle for either??
thanks guys
 
no need to do real gear yet your goal is abtainable with ph/ps. id say havoc or hdrol would help u reach your goal but if u want to put on some size while leaning out id go with havoc and hdrol dosent kick in till later in the 4th week id say 6 weeks havoc
 
jackedandtan1 said:
no need to do real gear yet your goal is abtainable with ph/ps. id say havoc or hdrol would help u reach your goal but if u want to put on some size while leaning out id go with havoc and hdrol dosent kick in till later in the 4th week id say 6 weeks havoc
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thanks dude! that is what im hearing...I am week 2 into my asteroid stack, should i just stop it now and go ahead with the havoc at 6 weeks or should i just finish a 12 weeker of the asteroid first and do havoc in the winter?

Also can you tell me what sides are to be expected with the havoc, and how should i dose it and what should i stack with it??

thanks
 
you could finish the asteroid stack and run havoc in the winter....or start havoc soon and keep what you have of the asteroid stack for PCT.

I would probably go with the second option...I ran Prime during my PCT on hdrol and it was awesome.
 
carpee said:
you could finish the asteroid stack and run havoc in the winter....or start havoc soon and keep what you have of the asteroid stack for PCT.

I would probably go with the second option...I ran Prime during my PCT on hdrol and it was awesome.
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Great thanks man....What does everyone else think of this option??

Finish asteroid stack or start havoc now and do asteroid as pct???

i would love several opinions! also how should i dose havoc? I need to know how much to buy. what should i take with etc...???
 
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