Methyl 4AD log

[Lean One]

Well the time has finally come to see what this one can do. The first dose just went down. Some initial thoughts: Thank you to Sledge for the great costomer service. 1 day from shipping to receiving.Sweet. He also answered every e-mail promptly and courteously.(I'm sure I was a pain in the ass.) The solution was cloudy upon receipt so I sat it in hot water but it never fully disolved. Perhaps I should bake it.Anyway, here's my stats: 5' 7" 157lbs Bodyfat: I'll say under 10%. Probably 8 or 9. I'll do a skindex test at the end of the cycle.My all time low was 5% so I'm a little fatter than I like to be. I ordered a Myotape from 1-fast,so as soon as I get it I'll take measurments. I also have before pics taken a couple days ago. I'll have to get Mrs. Lean One to help me get those up.Thats it for now. Iwill try to get the pics up ASAP. This should be intresting.

[bellicose]

this should be interesting, alot of people have been waiting anxiously.
Couple q's:
How old are you?
How long have you been training?
Any past steroid or prohormone use?
What kind of bone frame do you have?

I'm curious because most of the good results i have seen are from new guys(to anabolics) or guys that are just plain small. I'm curious as to whether their gains are due to the "first cycle phenomenon" or if they are legit. Usually people's first cycle's yield phenominal gains no matter what they take.
To illustrate my buddy took 50mg prop eod for his first cycle and gained 17lbs(kept 15lbs)

In other words, i wanna see if these compounds will work on big, advanced lifters with past steroid use.
Sledge, if you're listening, i hope the light bulb in your head just turned on(complimentary sample?)

[Lean One]

[QUOTE=bellicose]this should be interesting, alot of people have been waiting anxiously.
Couple q's:
How old are you?
How long have you been training?
Any past steroid or prohormone use?
What kind of bone frame do you have?

I'm curious because most of the good results i have seen are from new guys(to anabolics) or guys that are just plain small. I'm curious as to whether their gains are due to the "first cycle phenomenon" or if they are legit. Usually people's first cycle's yield phenominal gains no matter what they take.
To illustrate my buddy took 50mg prop eod for his first cycle and gained 17lbs(kept 15lbs) End Quote...
I'm the perfect test subject. I'm 31,Have been training since I was 15. Like most, I wasted many years using improper form and neglecting nutrition.I would say serious training for 5 years.Optimal training for 2. I say optimal because I became certified as a personal trainer 2 years ago. Up until then, I worked Heavy manual labor as a climber/treeworker. It definitely diddn't siut a bodybuilding lifestyle.(can you say overtrained?) I also hold an Intrafitt performance nutrition certification so my nutrition is deffinitely optimal.In the last two years, I took my body from a Pudgy 170 at 17% bf to 156 @5%. That was my all time leanest. I easily maintain single didjit bodyfat yearround now. I'm a textbook ectomorph. I worked my ass off for the muscle I now have. I'm not "huge" by most peoples standards, but I am quite proud of what I've been able to accomplish in the last few years. As for PH experience, Ive done it all Short of injecting.From the days of the origional andro pills when they first came out.The last couple years I have been doing heavy transdermal cycles of Fina/4AD so I have tons of experience in that department.Enough info?

[bellicose]

thanks for the info, sounds like you've got a solid knowledge base and your training and diet is up to par. Couple more q's
What dose are you doing for how long?
Are you going to be changing your diet or routine in any way?

What are your goals from this compound? What are you expecting will happen?

[MarcusG]

LeanOne, do you consider yourself plateaued at 157lb? And that after a few heavy transdermal cycles of tren/4ad?

[Lean One]

LeanOne, do you consider yourself plateaued at 157lb? And that after a few heavy transdermal cycles of tren/4ad?

No I'm confident I could gain more.I could see myself maxing out around 190 or 200. Who knows?

[Lean One]

thanks for the info, sounds like you've got a solid knowledge base and your training and diet is up to par. Couple more q's
What dose are you doing for how long?
Are you going to be changing your diet or routine in any way?

What are your goals from this compound? What are you expecting will happen?

I'm gonna do 40mg/day in 2 doses. I plan to go 4 to 6 weeks. I want to give the M4AD an objective trial used alone for at least 2 weeks. More if I like the way it's going. At 3 to 4 weeks I'm going to add in M5AA 20mg to harden up. I may lower the M4AD dose then to 20mg. It depends on what kind of sides come up. I have nolva on hand just in case, but I won't use it unless I need it. My goal is a good clean bulk. As much size as possible without fat gain.Actually I intend to sharpen up the abs a bit.Calories will be slightly above maintenance. High protein, Moderate carb, and low fat. Eating as cleanly as possible except Friday nights. Training will stay the same with the exeption of a few extra sets and balls to the wall intensity. I may also increase cordio on off days to 2 1hr sessions. This is my first run with an aromatizing compound like this so I expect to end up big and full.That's it for now,gotta go to work.

[chriseross]

By alone do you mean you are are not taking creatine either?

[Lean One]

By alone do you mean you are are not taking creatine either?

Nope. I realy want to know for myself and for other bros that care just what this compound can do.It's time to settle the debate.

[bellicose]

i'm really interested in this compound!! Please let us know asap how things are going...ah hell, i'll probably not be able to wait and order some tomorrow.
This stuff is so cheap its hard to find a reason not to buy it.

[Lean One]

OK Here are the pictures

[sifu]

Cool, I'll be starting the M1,4ADD here in a couple days. Sledge is having me test it out, so I will let you all know how it goes. As soon as it gets here I will start a log.

[jweave23]

Nope. I realy want to know for myself and for other bros that care just what this compound can do.It's time to settle the debate.

I want to know also, and I'm quite glad you're trying to limit the variables.

[Lean One]

Thought I'd take a blood pressure reading. 135/73 . Diastolic pressure slightly above normal for me. Usually it's around 63 to 67. Too much cofee this morning. I'll keep track along the way. It will be intresting to see what happens in that department.

[Greenguy]

Thought I'd take a blood pressure reading. 135/73 . Diastolic pressure slightly above normal for me. Usually it's around 63 to 67. Too much cofee this morning. I'll keep track along the way. It will be intresting to see what happens in that department.

Did you "Feel" anything after your first dose? I was wondering if there were any immediate effects on libido, energy or aggression.

Greenguy

[Lean One]

Did you "Feel" anything after your first dose? I was wondering if there were any immediate effects on libido, energy or aggression.

Greenguy

No. Too early to tell I think.However, I just worked shoulders/calves. Got a great pump,and my mood seems to be elevated. It's probably placebo.

[Lean One]

Just got the Myotape. Intresting little device. All measurments are taken flexed cold. 24hrs after first dose.
Arm 15"
Forarm 11.25"
Chest 39.75"
Quad 22.25"
Calf 14.25
Waist 31.5"

[sifu]

Just got the Myotape. Intresting little device. All measurments are taken flexed cold. 24hrs after first dose.
Arm 15"
Forarm 11.25"
Chest 39.75"
Quad 22.25"
Calf 14.25
Waist 31.5"

Damn bro you are lean. Sledge said I should get my M1,4ADD today or tommorow.

[bellicose]

Just got the Myotape. Intresting little device. All measurments are taken flexed cold. 24hrs after first dose.
Arm 15"
Forarm 11.25"
Chest 39.75"
Quad 22.25"
Calf 14.25
Waist 31.5"

uhhh, i guess you have no where to go but up. I'm not trying to be an ass, just making an observation. Good luck bro, work hard.

[Lean One]

Jeez guys thanks for the supportive replies. Bear in mind that I've gained about 30 solid pounds since High School. I told you I was a textbook ectomorph. I wasn't blessed with world class genetics, but I do happen to feel pretty dam good about my accomplishments.Not everyone can be a mass monster.