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    johnyq does primordial performance 1-T Tren standalone


    Cycle:
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    6 weeks of 1-T tren, 5 pumps a day in the morning after a shower.

    I will run concurrently at 3 days on, 3 days off.

    All other supplements:
    NA-RALA, 200mg a day
    GSE
    whey protein
    creatine post workout
    P-5-P 200mg
    fish oil
    sesamin oil
    pomegranite
    flax seed
    Resveratrol (nitro250) (will not take on same day as sustain alpha application)
    melatonin 2mg at night


    Previous supplements used

    1-t, dermacrine, drive, rpm, cre-o2, somnidren-gh, zmk, leviathan reloaded, etc, etc, etc


    Stats
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    current powerlifting total:
    bench:260
    squat:360
    deadlift: 375


    weight: 196lbs

    height: 5'7
    right arm: 15.75"
    left arm: 15.75"
    waist at naval: 39"
    right calf: 15.25"

    pics: I plan to grab some decent pics soon. I will only be posting them here.


    goals
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    Lean out some while putting on about 8 pounds.

    My interest is powerlifting, and getting stronger is important. I hope to hit a new total of 1100 with this cycle (currently 995).


    diet
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    I will be following precision nutrition guidelines closely.


    40g of protein every 3hours wiht vegetables (~200g of protein a day)
    some fruit mixed in

    carb sources other than fruit will only be consumed after working out only.


    training
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    My routine: An EFS-westside beginner template. 4 days; 2 are upper body, 2 are lower body. Alternating speedwork days and max effort days.

    cardio: I do about 30 minutes of general conditioning before workouts, and I will be trying to stick to an early morning fasted walk. I also occasional ride to work, which is 15 minutes of cardio.


    experience
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    I've been in the gym with reasonable consistency for 2.5 years now. I was training westside for skinny bastards for quite a while, and just switched it up to this new routine.

    Being interested in strength and powerlifting is a fairly new thing for me. It has made the gym a very positive experience.

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    DAY 1, March 30th


    I did not expect to receive my package today, and was very surprised to see it after my workout. I applied it after my shower, and will assess if it effects my sleep.

    Initial feedback:
    Very similar to applying other primordial performance creams. The packaging is very high quality, and the cream feels like a good lotion. It did seem to have a slightly stronger smell of alcohol than I recall. After a few minutes there is no aroma remaining (verified with my wife).


    Workout:

    2board press

    worked up to a 1RM @ 275lbs (lost an attemp at 285)


    DB extensions

    70x5
    80x5
    85x5
    85x5


    seated cable rows

    180x8
    192x8x8x8

    facepulls

    4sets of 12reps


    straight bar curls
    80x3x10


    no cardio today
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    Very nice, johny! I'm along for the ride. Let me know if you have any questions along the way.

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    Day 2

    snapped a crappy picture last night. At least it is something (as I didn't post any pics last time).




    Dosing
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    5 pumps in the morning after a quick shower


    Workout
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    GPP
    sled dragging for 10 minutes
    body weight step ups 30 each leg
    pushups 15x3
    some ab work




    // box squats close stance


    I normally do wide stance, combined with not being fully recovered from my last workout, I failed way early and was really pissed about it.

    workup to 1RM
    315x1
    335 fail....



    glute ham raises


    4 sets of 10-12


    banded good mornings


    3 sets of 15 reps

    reverse hyperextensions


    20lbs x 10
    40lbs x 10
    70lbs x 8

    hanging leg raises


    3sets x 12reps




    Feedback
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    I had a lot of aggression in my workout today, but I think it was mainly from being upset at the early missed lift.


    I don't feel like the application last night messed up my sleep, but I am pretty tired today just from not going to sleep at a reasonable time though.


    weight was the same
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    What weight were you at when you started the 1-T?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    What weight were you at when you started the 1-T?

    -Eric
    I was 186. So I'm still up 10 pounds after 3-4months.
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    Day 3 April 1



    Dosing
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    5 pumps in the morning after a quick shower


    Workout
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    OFF day


    15 minutes cardio at lunchtime (skating to work)

    15 minutes of cardio before dinner (skating)

    Diet
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    morning: omelet with spinach and broccoli
    snack: almonds
    lunch: tofu stir fry with spinach
    snack: trail mix
    lunch protein shake, 2scoops whey, raw milk, blueberries
    night: chicken brest grilled, with spinach, 2 glasses merlot


    Feedback
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    I have noticed increase appetite, and definitely increase in thirst. I can't get enough water it seems.


    I have been slightly extra snippy. I was pretty tired though, so that could have been it.

    I haven't been falling asleep like I normally do, but waking up hasn't been a problem either.
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    How did you feel during cardio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    How did you feel during cardio?
    Felt normal.
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    Looking at your regimen, I would say you'll experience little to no sides or shutdown. I would run the Nitro daily though, or at least on workout days, JMO. I hope this is a great cycle for you and I love the way you format the log.
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    thanks knowbull, I might just go ahead and take the tween80 on sustain alpha days. I don't start sustain alpha until next week.


    Day 4 April 2



    Dosing
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    5 pumps in the morning after a quick shower


    Workout
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    OFF day


    No cardio today.


    Diet
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    morning: omelet with spinach and broccoli
    lunch: grilled chicken with spinach
    lunch 2: protein shake, 2scoops whey, raw milk, GSE, kale, blueberries
    night: chicken breast grilled, with spinach
    snack: cottage cheese


    Feedback
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    Same feelings as yesterday only amplified. Feeling very moody, perhaps aggresive. This could still be from sleep, but I dont think so. Hunger and thirst still up; I'll finish what is a large meal for me, and feel hungry again in no time.
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    Yeah, that mood thing could be unrelated or transient. What defines "raw milk" does that mean you have a cow in the garage?
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    Subbin in johnnyq.

    If I may ask, why the Na-R-ALA on cycle? Being "on" will (or should) allow vastly improved nutrient partitioning as it is; unless your diet is very carb-heavy (and it sounds like it certainly is not), any reason you feel the need to control blood sugar even further with the ALA? I might even think hypoglycemia could be possible unless the carb intake is high.

    Good luck with this run.
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    ALA is a staple for me, I take it for its many other benefits. I've not ever had issues with hypoglycemia, perhaps my dose isn't large enough to cause that response? Thanks for the feedback, I can't rep you right now...


    Quote Originally Posted by Knowbull View Post
    Yeah, that mood thing could be unrelated or transient. What defines "raw milk" does that mean you have a cow in the garage?
    I purchased a cow share, which just means I own part of a cow along with a few other people. The milk from that cow gets distributed proportionally to each of the owners in its raw form, which just means it has not been homogeonized nor pastuerized. I get a gallon of raw milk each week right now. The reason for all of this is because it is illegal to sell raw milk due to FDA regulations, however you can drink milk from your own cow.

    I found out about it through super human radio and this website:
    http://www.realmilk.com/where1.html
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    I've looked into a cow share, but there was nothing available near me

    It sounds like the ALA wasn't high enough to cause hypoglycemia or you took enough carbs in. It doesn't always lead to feeling hypo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    ALA is a staple for me, I take it for its many other benefits. I've not ever had issues with hypoglycemia, perhaps my dose isn't large enough to cause that response? Thanks for the feedback, I can't rep you right now...




    I purchased a cow share, which just means I own part of a cow along with a few other people. The milk from that cow gets distributed proportionally to each of the owners in its raw form, which just means it has not been homogeonized nor pastuerized. I get a gallon of raw milk each week right now. The reason for all of this is because it is illegal to sell raw milk due to FDA regulations, however you can drink milk from your own cow.

    I found out about it through super human radio and this website:
    http://www.realmilk.com/where1.html
    Gotcha man, just checkin' cause I use ALA too when carb intake is higher. You're right, it's also a very powerful anti-oxidant. Good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    ALA is a staple for me, I take it for its many other benefits. I've not ever had issues with hypoglycemia, perhaps my dose isn't large enough to cause that response? Thanks for the feedback, I can't rep you right now...




    I purchased a cow share, which just means I own part of a cow along with a few other people. The milk from that cow gets distributed proportionally to each of the owners in its raw form, which just means it has not been homogeonized nor pastuerized. I get a gallon of raw milk each week right now. The reason for all of this is because it is illegal to sell raw milk due to FDA regulations, however you can drink milk from your own cow.

    I found out about it through super human radio and this website:
    http://www.realmilk.com/where1.html
    Absolutely unreal! lol The truth is stranger than fiction ! Thanks for mentioninig that though, and for posting the link. Ive met people that were raised on raw milk, they were huge and seldom caught colds.
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    Ridin' shotgun for this one! Sounds good so far...
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    thanks, glad to have you along!


    Day 5 April 3



    Dosing
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    5 pumps 1-T TREN in the morning after a quick shower


    Workout
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    GPP
    climb treadmill wall 3 minutes
    step ups, each leg x30
    glute ham raises, 30 total
    good mornings with stretch bands

    Dynamic effort upper body day

    Bench press speed work

    wide grip
    2x3x155

    medium grip
    3x3x155

    wide grip
    3x3x155


    Bench press

    work up to 5 RM

    185x5
    195x5
    205x5
    215x5



    chinups

    body weight

    x12
    x9
    x8


    rear delt raises

    25lbs x 10
    25lbs x 8
    20lbs x 10


    Dips


    3x10reps


    rolling thunder (grip work)

    worked up to holding 80lbs


    Diet
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    morning: omelet with spinach and broccoli
    lunch: lamb with hummus
    preworkout: protein shake, 2scoops whey, raw milk, GSE, blueberries
    post workout: shake, 1scoop whey, raw milk, blueberries, creatine
    dinner:salmon on spinach, a small amount of rice
    snack: cottage cheese


    Feedback
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    Most of the negative feelings seem to be gone, will continue to mointor. My hunger and thirst still seem elevated.

    The workout felt great. I did some extra work (dips and grip) just because I was feeling awesome. I would have liked to lift some heavy crap.

    I don't notice much visual change. I feel leaner in the chest, but it might be mental.

    weight: 196.5lbs (+.5lbs)
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    Day 6 April 4



    Dosing
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    5 pumps 1-T TREN, late afternoon after an early workout and yard work.


    Workout
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    GPP
    none

    Dynamic effort lower body day

    deadlift against stretch bands

    I used the black band, wrapped once but pulled tight

    8sets x 3reps x 175pounds


    hyper extensions

    20 pounds with the rollers

    3 x 10reps



    belt squats

    10x55lbs
    10x60lbs
    10x70
    10x80
    10x90
    10x100
    10x110


    prowler (sled) pushing

    90lbs + sled

    1 x 150yards


    prowler push + tire flip + sledge hammer

    circuit style

    90lbs prowler x 60 yards
    350lbs tire x 10 flips
    sledge hammer x 10hits or so


    700 pound tire

    1 successful flip







    Diet
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    preworkout: shake, 2 scoops, blueberries
    postworkout: shake, 1 scoop, blueberries, creatine mono
    lunch: chicken breast, spinach

    rest of food not eaten yet


    Feedback
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    workout was really good. Flipped the 700 pound tire without too much issue for the first time (and at the end of the workout). Was pretty excited about that.

    Not a whole lot other to report.
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    Workout looks solid, diet is on point. Cant wait for this stuff to kick in. Any noticeable improvement in skin? Just wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    Day 6 April 4
    700 pound tire

    1 successful flip





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    Thanks eric!

    Mrbigpr, no real change to my skin.


    Day 7 April 5



    Dosing
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    5 pumps 1-T TREN, late afternoon.
    1scoop toco 8


    Workout: light conditioning day
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    Fasted walk in the morning
    30 minutes, very casual pace

    GPP
    dumbbell side bends 45lbs 12x3
    hanging leg raises 12 x3
    flat bar curls, 80lbs x 10 x 3
    some grip work
    elliptical 7 minutes
    treadmill wall 3 minutes

    Diet
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    breakfast/preworkout: shake, 2 scoops, blueberries
    postworkout: trail mix (dried fruit and nuts) -went shopping, its all I had
    lunch: rotisserie chicken, broccolli

    plan on grilling some salmon tonight



    Feedback
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    waist at naval: 38.25" (-0.75")

    it wasn't just my imagination, I am definitely leaning out. Both measurements were taken after eating, so they should be fairly compared.


    I started toco8 today. It is normally a staple of mine anyways, so I see no reason not to take it. I plan to take my first dose of sustain alpha tomorrow.

    still hungry and still drinking a ton of water.


    Alpha male mentality. Not sure I have ever experienced it before, but I was feeling it last night. Not really like me, but I just felt bravado and confidence I guess. Nothing that effected my actions much, but it was there. I could just be feeling extra confident thanks to the gym, but its never happened before.
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    I think the tire flip would provide a great ego-boost, hence, the term; mind, body, connection. I doubt that you would be getting a mood boost from 1TT this early on or any noticeable changes in muscle/fat viscosity. I could be wrong, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knowbull View Post
    I think the tire flip would provide a great ego-boost, hence, the term; mind, body, connection. I doubt that you would be getting a mood boost from 1TT this early on or any noticeable changes in muscle/fat viscosity. I could be wrong, though.
    thanks, sounds about right for what I would expect.
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    I usually disregard any subjective perceptions until around day 12 to 14, then I can make some correlations. I did get the fat loss from 1T though, once I added the 250 to my PCT I really lost bodyfat, could be the 250 helping with the waist line, as well as other factors in your regimen. The Res. is said to mimic calorie restriction in the body. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    Day 6 April 4




    700 pound tire

    1 successful flip





    Nice work, Johny! You're doing a great job with this log. Keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knowbull View Post
    I usually disregard any subjective perceptions until around day 12 to 14, then I can make some correlations. I did get the fat loss from 1T though, once I added the 250 to my PCT I really lost bodyfat, could be the 250 helping with the waist line, as well as other factors in your regimen. The Res. is said to mimic calorie restriction in the body. JMO
    I could have also lost bloat just from keeping my diet really clean (no beer or processed carbs all week). I didn't really think of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    I could have also lost bloat just from keeping my diet really clean (no beer or processed carbs all week). I didn't really think of that.
    What? No beer? Ahh, me either, lol
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    Is 1-T Tren harsh on the liver??
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    Quote Originally Posted by cranghel099 View Post
    Is 1-T Tren harsh on the liver??
    Trenadrol blood test results
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon13 View Post
    I dont think that can apply, the exact compound is still being debated, unless, of course, you know exactly what it is. Overall, 19-Nor, particularly a transdermal is thought to be not so toxic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knowbull View Post
    I dont think that can apply, the exact compound is still being debated, unless, of course, you know exactly what it is. Overall, 19-Nor, particularly a transdermal is thought to be not so toxic.
    I was under the impression that the 30 mg version was generally believed to be the same compound as the estra-4 /19-nor. IOW, the same thing as 1-T Tren. As for the 3 mg version of that product, I have no idea.

    I understand that a transdermal will be less taxing on the liver. But that link above at least gives a decent starting point.
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    Thanks, agreed, its an educated guess.
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