SUS 500 - First Time Stack (Please Review)

[simonrr]

Fellas....

I have read a lot on this forum and can't believe the amount of great information that is being thrown around...it is great!

Now, my situation....and I need your help.

I have one bottle of SUS-500 that I am going to take for one month. I have read that you need PCT and a possible SERM to go along with this. I have also read that you need to build up and prepare your body 2 weeks prior to taking SUS-500 with Hawhtorne & Milk Thistle.

My recipe looks like this:

• Hawthorne Berries (2 weeks prior to starting SUS-500)
• Milk Thistle (2 weeks prior to starting SUS-500)
  
• SUS-500 (one month - 2 caps per day)
• Whey Protein (50 grams post workout)
• Casein Protein (50 grams prior to bed)
• Fish Oil (300mg+ of EPA and DHA combined)
• Animal Pak (Multi-Vitamin)
• PCT - Nolvadex (one month upon completion, 30/20/20/10mg)

How does this look? Have I included everything? If not, what do I need to add?

Where can I get NOLVADEX specifically?

Thanks,

R

 

[bigzach1234]

go with pct of nolva 20/20/20/20. no need to taper..

google tamoxifen citrate 60 ml or just tamoxifen.. go to other forums and order from reccomend sites.. or google research chemicals nolvadex

 

[GMG760]

Fellas....

I have read a lot on this forum and can't believe the amount of great information that is being thrown around...it is great!

Now, my situation....and I need your help.

I have one bottle of SUS-500 that I am going to take for one month. I have read that you need PCT and a possible SERM to go along with this. I have also read that you need to build up and prepare your body 2 weeks prior to taking SUS-500 with Hawhtorne & Milk Thistle.

My recipe looks like this:

• Hawthorne Berries (2 weeks prior to starting SUS-500)
• Milk Thistle (2 weeks prior to starting SUS-500)
  
• SUS-500 (one month - 2 caps per day)
• Whey Protein (50 grams post workout)
• Casein Protein (50 grams prior to bed)
• Fish Oil (300mg+ of EPA and DHA combined)
• Animal Pak (Multi-Vitamin)
• PCT - Nolvadex (one month upon completion, 30/20/20/10mg)

How does this look? Have I included everything? If not, what do I need to add?

Where can I get NOLVADEX specifically?

Thanks,

R

Sourcing research chems will get you kicked off the board pretty quick. Not that I care, but you might not want to be kicked off... my suggestion is to listen to the poster above, as he has given you some good info.

Nolvadex however is pretty expensive. I would go with just liquid tamox. I just finished a PCT with clomid tablets and it was much pricier than buying the liquid.

Tren and LMG... first cycle huh? Sure you want to take that stack for your first cycle?

I recommend Hdrol for first timers... but thats just me.

 

[simonrr]

GMG -

You got me thinking. I have never taken a cycle before so jumping in to SUS-500 might be a little too much initially.

I am currently taking:

• "ISA-Test"
• Milk Thistle
• Hawthorne Berries
• Fish Oil

Upon completion of the ISA-Test, I am either going to take HDROL or SUS500. If I do take the HDROL, I ask this:

• How long should I initially take it for, 30 days?
• If I start to experience "gyno", should I take the PCT immediately?
• Or, is the PCT meant for after completion of the cycle?

I apologize for my lack of education on this but want to make sure I get this right.

Thanks.

 

[GMG760]

GMG -

You got me thinking. I have never taken a cycle before so jumping in to SUS-500 might be a little too much initially.

I am currently taking:

• "ISA-Test"
• Milk Thistle
• Hawthorne Berries
• Fish Oil

Upon completion of the ISA-Test, I am either going to take HDROL or SUS500. If I do take the HDROL, I ask this:

• How long should I initially take it for, 30 days?
• If I start to experience "gyno", should I take the PCT immediately?
• Or, is the PCT meant for after completion of the cycle?

I apologize for my lack of education on this but want to make sure I get this right.

Thanks.

Now I am no doctor, but I can pretty much guarantee you will NOT get gyno from hdrol. I would run Hdrol 5-6 weeks as it takes the first 2 weeks to kick in. PCT is meant for after the completion of the cycle.

Here, I am going to do the work for you ok? You do the research next time.

NEWBIES HERE IS A FREE ONE:

Guidelines to a successful, safe, first cycle.

First off, no caffeine... your BP will not like you if you drink PWO drinks.

Hdrol 50/50/75/75/100/100 <-- week 6 ONLY if you want to go 6 weeks... not necessary IMO, but it is how I would do it.

Supports
Cycle Support or Cycle Assist for 2 weeks prior to cycle - pre load
Cycle Support or Cycle Assist for the entire cycle and PCT
Fish Oil/Cissus for your joints
Lots of Protein and Carbs.

PCT
Some people say to use a Serm, others not to with hdrol. I use them... it is up to you.
SERM - either Tamox, Clomid, or Torem. I prefer torem. Doseages differ. Tamox should be dosed 20/20/10/10. CLomid should be dosed 50/50/25/25. Torem should be dosed 60/60/30/30 (these are Hdrol PCT doses. Superdrol and harsher compounds may require higher SERM doses)

Natty test booster - DTHC or PCS - 4 weeks.
Anti Estrogen - 6oxo, ATD, whatever you like Start week 3 of PCT. Taper down for 3 weeks.
Cortisol control - Lean xtreme

If you want to combine the effects of DTHC and PCS into one great product, LG's T911 is AWESOME.

Follow this protocol and you should be dandy. Run the Sust250 once you are a bit more experienced with PH/DS.

 

[simonrr]

Great stuff.

That about sums it up for me. Thanks for the help in this one.

I will run this to a T and let you know how it goes.

Bottom line, I am 6-2, 210 right now. My goal is to get to 225 and lean up too. I am get BF tested this week.

Besides the caffeine, I assume no alcohol with the Hdrol as well, correct?

You the man GMG.

Simon

 

[GMG760]

No problem. :thumbsup:

Best of luck with your cycle.

Yea no alcohol. Methylated hormones wreak havoc on your liver. You shouldn't drink during PCT either.

 

[GMG760]

Don't expect to get 15 lbs out of one run... it's happened before, but it doesn't happen to everyone.

 

[jesseb22]

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