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    The best/most effective PH cycle lengths?


    Some of you might remember a similar thread I&nbs p;started back at the other place a long time a ago. I thought I would get it going here as there was a lot of good info/discussion from the first one so lets have so more here!


    IF YOU CHOOSE "SOME OTHER VARIATION" PLEASE POST WHAT THAT WOULD BE! THANKS!!
     
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    <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0>Here is the old thread results!

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    <TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6 colSpan=4>The best/most effective cycle lengths?
    [color=verdana,arial,helvetica]You have already voted on this poll.[/color][/color][/size]</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>2 weeks on/2 weeks off 3 times in a row</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2.gif" width=32><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2-r.gif" width=3></TD>



    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>55</TD>



    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>16.47%</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>4 weeks on/4 weeks off 2 times in a row</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3.gif" width=92><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width=3></TD>



    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>154</TD>



    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>46.11%</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>6 on/12 off</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4.gif" width=26><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4-r.gif" width=3></TD>



    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>45</TD>



    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>13.47%</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>8 on/16 off</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5.gif" width=34><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5-r.gif" width=3></TD>


    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>57</TD>



    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>17.07%</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>10 on/ 20 off</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6.gif" width=14><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6-r.gif" width=3></TD>



    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>23</TD>


    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>6.89%</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#8080a6 colSpan=2><B>Total:</B></TD>



    <TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6><B>334 votes</B></TD>



    <TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6><B>100%</B></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    Last edited by windwords7; 01-03-2003 at 12:01 AM.
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    Another great thread Jake-karma to you!
    Seems that 4on 4off is really working for me very well,have been getting great muscle gains as well as strength gains. Peace
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    Originally posted by garyrabbit
    Another great thread Jake-karma to you!
    Seems that 4on 4off is really working for me very well,have been getting great muscle gains as well as strength gains. Peace
    Thanks Gary!
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    I plan on doing for on 4 and 4 off when I do mine in March. Good info Jake thanks again my man.
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    Yeap I like the 4 week on 4 week off, works nice for me!
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    Originally posted by Rhinoman
    Yeap I like the 4 week on 4 week off, works nice for me!
    Seems like most do!
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    Thumbs up


    Yep, 4 on then 4 off still the winner here also, cool. I guess 8 on works fairly well depending on the cycle PH's, but most don't like the recovery time I take it. Karma for you Jake
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    Originally posted by jweave23
    Yep, 4 on then 4 off still the winner here also, cool. I guess 8 on works fairly well depending on the cycle PH's, but most don't like the recovery time I take it. Karma for you Jake
    I love how people say "Karma for you" and dont give it to them..... Remember weave, mods can check who gives karma
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    There goes YJ playing 007 again. Wonder who else is watching us? OW OW
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    jweave added it to the first message methinks. karma log:

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    Originally posted by YellowJacket

    I love how people say "Karma for you" and dont give it to them..... Remember weave, mods can check who gives karma
    Check again there, Sherlock.
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    3 of you have put some other variation not listed, what would those be please
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    4 weeks on 3 times in a row with 6 weeks off in between each then a much longer time off after that is now my ideal cycle plan for fina and 1-test and 1-test/4-AD based on my experience this is will give you the best gains you can get while still being safe on the body to some degree.
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    as far as fina goes; NUMEROUS posts and NUMEROUS actual bodybuilders using the substance say they got their best gains on 6-8 straight weeks of fina/test followed up by clomid and sometimes HCG
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    as far as fina goes; NUMEROUS posts and NUMEROUS actual bodybuilders using the substance say they got their best gains on 6-8 straight weeks of fina/test followed up by clomid and sometimes HCG




    They say the same thing about 1-test too.......

    Patrick arnold mentions that fina plateaus after many cycles. He said switching to 1-test can break the plateau. I believe that if you want to do loner then 4 weeks your probably gonna have to do a fina/4-AD for 4 weeks then 1-test/4-AD for 4 weeks or something like that i dont know to keep the body guessing. Maybe 1-test/4-AD for 4 weeks then fina for 4 weeks. Hell im gonna ask that in another thread, you got me thinking
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    Generally, threads outside of the steroid forum are not speaking of steroids unless otherwise noted. This thread is not about Gear cycles but rather PH/PS cycles. Gear cycles questions should be in the steroid section.
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    trick or treat


    Originally posted by ex_banana-eater
    jweave added it to the first message methinks. karma log:

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    I plan on doing 8 weeks on 10 weeks off and than 8 weeks on and 16 weeks off
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    Results are very similar to the same thread I started ages ago at BB.com. When it comes to PH's 4 week cycles are the most prefered.
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    12 to 16 glorious weeks..lol! I am not talking PHs however.
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    I'm curious to know if anyone has tried Doggcrapp's 4 week blast/2 week cruise method with PH's. With the recent availability of OH Test, it seems that it would be an ideal candidate for the 2 weeks of cruising considering its possible anti-estrogenic properties. Any reasons that this wouldn't work?
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    So i'm doing the 6 wks on, when should i start the 6-oxo?
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    when someone says 4 on then off/ 2x in a row does that mean literally
    4 weeks on
    4 weeks PCT
    4 weeks on
    4 weeks PCT
    back to back as opposed to waiting to do the 2nd cycle later on down the road?
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    I'm starting to like the 7-10 day on, 2-3 weeks off, M1T cycle idea more and more. It'll be interesting to see what the longer cycles of this stuff do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    I'm starting to like the 7-10 day on, 2-3 weeks off, M1T cycle idea more and more. It'll be interesting to see what the longer cycles of this stuff do.
    just curious why you think this.
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    Flexibility is key... I guess all the votes on this thread are oriented to a mass prioritized cycle with strength gains (a cutter would base it's effectivity on fat-muscle loss ratio/ getting ready for an event which would make it much more variable).

    Flexibility is key... I like cyp, eq, deca(bit). I tend to get along very well with steroids that are long lasting/acting to base the cycle and normally an oral to have fun and kickstart (normally winny-dboll-var).

    4/4 x2 isnt for me for eg.

    ps.dont like to front load

    pps. gimme 6-10 week cycles twice a year or, three times every two years (even better)
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    pps. I normally stuff my face with dballs instead of doubling the amount of test on the front load
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    I like 4-5 weeks on, 8 weeks off, probably not necessary to recover that long but I sleep better at night since I am in this for the long-haul.
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    the best cycle i my experience has always been 8 on 6 off. recently been experimenting with blood tests to determine the amount of down time. with 2 off then one week hcg about two amps. my test levels are back to normal at the end of the forth week of down time corse i did this with suspension and winny i imagine oilbase would take longer cause it stays in the body for longer periods of time than water base. any body else monitor there blood?
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    Exactley why s 4 weeks on 4 weeks off a good cycle time? wouldn't you essentially just gain...then loose it all...then gain again...why wouldn't you go 6-8 weeks straight to keep some solid gains?
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    I think it means 4 on, 4 PCT, 4 on, 4 PCT
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    I think it depends on what you are doing(what type). For instance, a MethyD or MOHN cycle for instance could easily go 6 weeks, whereas something more harsh like M1T or MDHT you might think 2 weeks.
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    I prefer 5-6 weeks cycles with 2 months off (not 3)
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    not that i have any experience but most who are on 1-T/1ad w/ 4ad seem to extend their planned 4 weeker into about 6 weeks
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    Definitely 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off is the best ph cycle. I would even suggest cycling for 4 weeks and take off 6 weeks.
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    so this poll is saying 4 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, then 4 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, WITHOUT and extra 4 between the first and second cycle?
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    My first Ph cycle ever was 500mg transdermal 4-ad and 200mg transdermal 1-test, i put on 40lbs in 8 weeks, about 20lbs was muscle 12 was water and 8 was fat, I INFLATED, lol. Loved it though. I've tried M1t 3 times and i think shorter is better for that, like 2 weeks on 2 week off, i've ran a 6 week M1t cycle and u just feel like ****. If your running transdermal 4-ad+1-test I wouldn't hesitate to go as long as 12 weeks, mind you, it'd be alot cheaper to just do a cycle of Test Enthanate .
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