Poll: The best/most effective PH cycle lengths?

The best/most effective PH cycle lengths?

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  1. The best/most effective PH cycle lengths?


    Some of you might remember a similar thread I&nbs p;started back at the other place a long time a ago. I thought I would get it going here as there was a lot of good info/discussion from the first one so lets have so more here!


    IF YOU CHOOSE "SOME OTHER VARIATION" PLEASE POST WHAT THAT WOULD BE! THANKS!!
     
    Last edited by windwords7; 01-04-2003 at 07:41 PM.


  2. <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0>Here is the old thread results!

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    <TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6 colSpan=4>The best/most effective cycle lengths?
    [color=verdana,arial,helvetica]You have already voted on this poll.[/color][/color][/size]</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>2 weeks on/2 weeks off 3 times in a row</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2.gif" width=32><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2-r.gif" width=3></TD>



    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>55</TD>



    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>16.47%</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>4 weeks on/4 weeks off 2 times in a row</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3.gif" width=92><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width=3></TD>



    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>154</TD>



    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>46.11%</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>6 on/12 off</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4.gif" width=26><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4-r.gif" width=3></TD>



    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>45</TD>



    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>13.47%</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>8 on/16 off</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5.gif" width=34><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5-r.gif" width=3></TD>


    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>57</TD>



    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>17.07%</TD></TR>



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    <TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>10 on/ 20 off</TD>



    <TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6.gif" width=14><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6-r.gif" width=3></TD>



    <TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>23</TD>


    <TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>6.89%</TD></TR>



    <TR>



    <TD align=right bgColor=#8080a6 colSpan=2><B>Total:</B></TD>



    <TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6><B>334 votes</B></TD>



    <TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6><B>100%</B></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    Last edited by windwords7; 01-03-2003 at 01:01 AM.

  3. Another great thread Jake-karma to you!
    Seems that 4on 4off is really working for me very well,have been getting great muscle gains as well as strength gains. Peace
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  4. Originally posted by garyrabbit
    Another great thread Jake-karma to you!
    Seems that 4on 4off is really working for me very well,have been getting great muscle gains as well as strength gains. Peace
    Thanks Gary!

  5. I plan on doing for on 4 and 4 off when I do mine in March. Good info Jake thanks again my man.

  6. Yeap I like the 4 week on 4 week off, works nice for me!

  7. Originally posted by Rhinoman
    Yeap I like the 4 week on 4 week off, works nice for me!
    Seems like most do!
  8. Thumbs up


    Yep, 4 on then 4 off still the winner here also, cool. I guess 8 on works fairly well depending on the cycle PH's, but most don't like the recovery time I take it. Karma for you Jake

  9. Originally posted by jweave23
    Yep, 4 on then 4 off still the winner here also, cool. I guess 8 on works fairly well depending on the cycle PH's, but most don't like the recovery time I take it. Karma for you Jake
    I love how people say "Karma for you" and dont give it to them..... Remember weave, mods can check who gives karma

  10. There goes YJ playing 007 again. Wonder who else is watching us? OW OW

  11. jweave added it to the first message methinks. karma log:

    "garyrabbit add karma
    ex_banana-eater neat
    jweave23 Classic, thanks Jake "



    btw i give karma like halloween candy

  12. Originally posted by YellowJacket

    I love how people say "Karma for you" and dont give it to them..... Remember weave, mods can check who gives karma
    Check again there, Sherlock.

  13. 3 of you have put some other variation not listed, what would those be please

  14. 4 weeks on 3 times in a row with 6 weeks off in between each then a much longer time off after that is now my ideal cycle plan for fina and 1-test and 1-test/4-AD based on my experience this is will give you the best gains you can get while still being safe on the body to some degree.

  15. as far as fina goes; NUMEROUS posts and NUMEROUS actual bodybuilders using the substance say they got their best gains on 6-8 straight weeks of fina/test followed up by clomid and sometimes HCG

  16. as far as fina goes; NUMEROUS posts and NUMEROUS actual bodybuilders using the substance say they got their best gains on 6-8 straight weeks of fina/test followed up by clomid and sometimes HCG




    They say the same thing about 1-test too.......

    Patrick arnold mentions that fina plateaus after many cycles. He said switching to 1-test can break the plateau. I believe that if you want to do loner then 4 weeks your probably gonna have to do a fina/4-AD for 4 weeks then 1-test/4-AD for 4 weeks or something like that i dont know to keep the body guessing. Maybe 1-test/4-AD for 4 weeks then fina for 4 weeks. Hell im gonna ask that in another thread, you got me thinking

  17. Generally, threads outside of the steroid forum are not speaking of steroids unless otherwise noted. This thread is not about Gear cycles but rather PH/PS cycles. Gear cycles questions should be in the steroid section.
  18. trick or treat


    Originally posted by ex_banana-eater
    jweave added it to the first message methinks. karma log:

    "garyrabbit add karma
    ex_banana-eater neat
    jweave23 Classic, thanks Jake "



    btw i give karma like halloween candy
    ex_banana-eater is my hero!!!!!!!!!!!

    peace

  19. I plan on doing 8 weeks on 10 weeks off and than 8 weeks on and 16 weeks off

  20. Results are very similar to the same thread I started ages ago at BB.com. When it comes to PH's 4 week cycles are the most prefered.

  21. 12 to 16 glorious weeks..lol! I am not talking PHs however.

  22. I'm curious to know if anyone has tried Doggcrapp's 4 week blast/2 week cruise method with PH's. With the recent availability of OH Test, it seems that it would be an ideal candidate for the 2 weeks of cruising considering its possible anti-estrogenic properties. Any reasons that this wouldn't work?

  23. So i'm doing the 6 wks on, when should i start the 6-oxo?

  24. Ahhhhh SEARCH

  25. when someone says 4 on then off/ 2x in a row does that mean literally
    4 weeks on
    4 weeks PCT
    4 weeks on
    4 weeks PCT
    back to back as opposed to waiting to do the 2nd cycle later on down the road?

  26. I'm starting to like the 7-10 day on, 2-3 weeks off, M1T cycle idea more and more. It'll be interesting to see what the longer cycles of this stuff do.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    I'm starting to like the 7-10 day on, 2-3 weeks off, M1T cycle idea more and more. It'll be interesting to see what the longer cycles of this stuff do.
    just curious why you think this.

  28. Flexibility is key... I guess all the votes on this thread are oriented to a mass prioritized cycle with strength gains (a cutter would base it's effectivity on fat-muscle loss ratio/ getting ready for an event which would make it much more variable).

    Flexibility is key... I like cyp, eq, deca(bit). I tend to get along very well with steroids that are long lasting/acting to base the cycle and normally an oral to have fun and kickstart (normally winny-dboll-var).

    4/4 x2 isnt for me for eg.

    ps.dont like to front load

    pps. gimme 6-10 week cycles twice a year or, three times every two years (even better)

  29. pps. I normally stuff my face with dballs instead of doubling the amount of test on the front load

  30. I like 4-5 weeks on, 8 weeks off, probably not necessary to recover that long but I sleep better at night since I am in this for the long-haul.

  31. the best cycle i my experience has always been 8 on 6 off. recently been experimenting with blood tests to determine the amount of down time. with 2 off then one week hcg about two amps. my test levels are back to normal at the end of the forth week of down time corse i did this with suspension and winny i imagine oilbase would take longer cause it stays in the body for longer periods of time than water base. any body else monitor there blood?

  32. Exactley why s 4 weeks on 4 weeks off a good cycle time? wouldn't you essentially just gain...then loose it all...then gain again...why wouldn't you go 6-8 weeks straight to keep some solid gains?

  33. I think it means 4 on, 4 PCT, 4 on, 4 PCT

  34. I think it depends on what you are doing(what type). For instance, a MethyD or MOHN cycle for instance could easily go 6 weeks, whereas something more harsh like M1T or MDHT you might think 2 weeks.

  35. I prefer 5-6 weeks cycles with 2 months off (not 3)

  36. not that i have any experience but most who are on 1-T/1ad w/ 4ad seem to extend their planned 4 weeker into about 6 weeks

  37. Definitely 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off is the best ph cycle. I would even suggest cycling for 4 weeks and take off 6 weeks.

  38. One of the Mods should ban Nacho1's loser ass...piece of **** spammer

  39. so this poll is saying 4 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, then 4 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, WITHOUT and extra 4 between the first and second cycle?

  40. My first Ph cycle ever was 500mg transdermal 4-ad and 200mg transdermal 1-test, i put on 40lbs in 8 weeks, about 20lbs was muscle 12 was water and 8 was fat, I INFLATED, lol. Loved it though. I've tried M1t 3 times and i think shorter is better for that, like 2 weeks on 2 week off, i've ran a 6 week M1t cycle and u just feel like ****. If your running transdermal 4-ad+1-test I wouldn't hesitate to go as long as 12 weeks, mind you, it'd be alot cheaper to just do a cycle of Test Enthanate .
  

  
 

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