The best/most effective PH cycle lengths?

The best/most effective PH cycle lengths?

  • 2 weeks on/2 weeks off 3 times in a row

    Votes: 56 5.3%
  • 3 weeks on/3 weeks off 2/3 times in a row

    Votes: 61 5.8%
  • 4 weeks on/4 weeks off 2 times in a row

    Votes: 397 37.8%
  • 6 on/12 off

    Votes: 309 29.5%
  • 8 on/16 off

    Votes: 82 7.8%
  • 10 on/ 20 off

    Votes: 23 2.2%
  • Some other variation not listed

    Votes: 121 11.5%

  • Total voters
    1,049

windwords7

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Some of you might remember a similar thread I started back at the other place a long time a ago. I thought I would get it going here as there was a lot of good info/discussion from the first one so lets have so more here!


IF YOU CHOOSE "SOME OTHER VARIATION" PLEASE POST WHAT THAT WOULD BE! THANKS!!
 
 
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<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0>Here is the old thread results! :D

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<TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6 colSpan=4>The best/most effective cycle lengths?
[color=verdana,arial,helvetica]You have already voted on this poll.[/color][/color][/size]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]2 weeks on/2 weeks off 3 times in a row[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2.gif" width=32><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2-r.gif" width=3></TD>



<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]55[/font]</TD>



<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]16.47%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]4 weeks on/4 weeks off 2 times in a row[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3.gif" width=92><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width=3></TD>



<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]154[/font]</TD>



<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]46.11%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]6 on/12 off[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4.gif" width=26><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4-r.gif" width=3></TD>



<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]45[/font]</TD>



<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]13.47%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]8 on/16 off[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5.gif" width=34><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5-r.gif" width=3></TD>


<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]57[/font]</TD>



<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]17.07%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]10 on/ 20 off[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6.gif" width=14><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6-r.gif" width=3></TD>



<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]23[/font]</TD>


<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]6.89%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#8080a6 colSpan=2><B>Total:</B></TD>



<TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6><B>334 votes</B></TD>



<TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6><B>100%</B></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
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garyrabbit

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Another great thread Jake-karma to you!
Seems that 4on 4off is really working for me very well,have been getting great muscle gains as well as strength gains. Peace
 

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Originally posted by garyrabbit
Another great thread Jake-karma to you!
Seems that 4on 4off is really working for me very well,have been getting great muscle gains as well as strength gains. Peace
Thanks Gary!
 

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I plan on doing for on 4 and 4 off when I do mine in March. Good info Jake thanks again my man.
 

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Originally posted by Rhinoman
Yeap I like the 4 week on 4 week off, works nice for me!
Seems like most do!
 

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Yep, 4 on then 4 off still the winner here also, cool. I guess 8 on works fairly well depending on the cycle PH's, but most don't like the recovery time I take it. Karma for you Jake
 

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Yep, 4 on then 4 off still the winner here also, cool. I guess 8 on works fairly well depending on the cycle PH's, but most don't like the recovery time I take it. Karma for you Jake
I love how people say "Karma for you" and dont give it to them..... ;) Remember weave, mods can check who gives karma ;) :D
 

DarCSA

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There goes YJ playing 007 again. Wonder who else is watching us? OW OW
 

ex_banana-eater

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jweave added it to the first message methinks. karma log:

"garyrabbit add karma
ex_banana-eater neat
jweave23 Classic, thanks Jake "



btw i give karma like halloween candy
 

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Originally posted by YellowJacket

I love how people say "Karma for you" and dont give it to them..... ;) Remember weave, mods can check who gives karma ;) :D
Check again there, Sherlock. :)
 

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3 of you have put some other variation not listed, what would those be please ;)
 

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4 weeks on 3 times in a row with 6 weeks off in between each then a much longer time off after that is now my ideal cycle plan for fina and 1-test and 1-test/4-AD based on my experience this is will give you the best gains you can get while still being safe on the body to some degree.
 
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as far as fina goes; NUMEROUS posts and NUMEROUS actual bodybuilders using the substance say they got their best gains on 6-8 straight weeks of fina/test followed up by clomid and sometimes HCG
 

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as far as fina goes; NUMEROUS posts and NUMEROUS actual bodybuilders using the substance say they got their best gains on 6-8 straight weeks of fina/test followed up by clomid and sometimes HCG




They say the same thing about 1-test too.......

Patrick arnold mentions that fina plateaus after many cycles. He said switching to 1-test can break the plateau. I believe that if you want to do loner then 4 weeks your probably gonna have to do a fina/4-AD for 4 weeks then 1-test/4-AD for 4 weeks or something like that i dont know to keep the body guessing. Maybe 1-test/4-AD for 4 weeks then fina for 4 weeks. Hell im gonna ask that in another thread, you got me thinking :)
 

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Generally, threads outside of the steroid forum are not speaking of steroids unless otherwise noted. This thread is not about Gear cycles but rather PH/PS cycles. Gear cycles questions should be in the steroid section.
 

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trick or treat

jweave added it to the first message methinks. karma log:

"garyrabbit add karma
ex_banana-eater neat
jweave23 Classic, thanks Jake "



btw i give karma like halloween candy
:D ex_banana-eater is my hero!!!!!!!!!!! :D

peace
 

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I plan on doing 8 weeks on 10 weeks off and than 8 weeks on and 16 weeks off:cool:
 

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Results are very similar to the same thread I started ages ago at BB.com. When it comes to PH's 4 week cycles are the most prefered.
 

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12 to 16 glorious weeks..lol! I am not talking PHs however.
 

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I'm curious to know if anyone has tried Doggcrapp's 4 week blast/2 week cruise method with PH's. With the recent availability of OH Test, it seems that it would be an ideal candidate for the 2 weeks of cruising considering its possible anti-estrogenic properties. Any reasons that this wouldn't work?
 

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So i'm doing the 6 wks on, when should i start the 6-oxo?
 
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when someone says 4 on then off/ 2x in a row does that mean literally
4 weeks on
4 weeks PCT
4 weeks on
4 weeks PCT
back to back as opposed to waiting to do the 2nd cycle later on down the road?
 
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I'm starting to like the 7-10 day on, 2-3 weeks off, M1T cycle idea more and more. It'll be interesting to see what the longer cycles of this stuff do.
 

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I'm starting to like the 7-10 day on, 2-3 weeks off, M1T cycle idea more and more. It'll be interesting to see what the longer cycles of this stuff do.
just curious why you think this.
 

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Flexibility is key... I guess all the votes on this thread are oriented to a mass prioritized cycle with strength gains (a cutter would base it's effectivity on fat-muscle loss ratio/ getting ready for an event which would make it much more variable).

Flexibility is key... I like cyp, eq, deca(bit). I tend to get along very well with steroids that are long lasting/acting to base the cycle and normally an oral to have fun and kickstart (normally winny-dboll-var).

4/4 x2 isnt for me for eg.

ps.dont like to front load

pps. gimme 6-10 week cycles twice a year or, three times every two years (even better)
 

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pps. I normally stuff my face with dballs instead of doubling the amount of test on the front load
 

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I like 4-5 weeks on, 8 weeks off, probably not necessary to recover that long but I sleep better at night since I am in this for the long-haul.
 

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the best cycle i my experience has always been 8 on 6 off. recently been experimenting with blood tests to determine the amount of down time. with 2 off then one week hcg about two amps. my test levels are back to normal at the end of the forth week of down time corse i did this with suspension and winny i imagine oilbase would take longer cause it stays in the body for longer periods of time than water base. any body else monitor there blood?
 

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Exactley why s 4 weeks on 4 weeks off a good cycle time? wouldn't you essentially just gain...then loose it all...then gain again...why wouldn't you go 6-8 weeks straight to keep some solid gains?
 

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I think it means 4 on, 4 PCT, 4 on, 4 PCT
 

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I think it depends on what you are doing(what type). For instance, a MethyD or MOHN cycle for instance could easily go 6 weeks, whereas something more harsh like M1T or MDHT you might think 2 weeks.
 
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I prefer 5-6 weeks cycles with 2 months off (not 3)
 

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not that i have any experience but most who are on 1-T/1ad w/ 4ad seem to extend their planned 4 weeker into about 6 weeks
 

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Definitely 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off is the best ph cycle. I would even suggest cycling for 4 weeks and take off 6 weeks.
 

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One of the Mods should ban Nacho1's loser ass...piece of **** spammer
 
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so this poll is saying 4 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, then 4 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, WITHOUT and extra 4 between the first and second cycle?
 

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My first Ph cycle ever was 500mg transdermal 4-ad and 200mg transdermal 1-test, i put on 40lbs in 8 weeks, about 20lbs was muscle 12 was water and 8 was fat, I INFLATED, lol. Loved it though. I've tried M1t 3 times and i think shorter is better for that, like 2 weeks on 2 week off, i've ran a 6 week M1t cycle and u just feel like ****. If your running transdermal 4-ad+1-test I wouldn't hesitate to go as long as 12 weeks, mind you, it'd be alot cheaper to just do a cycle of Test Enthanate :).
 

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I am currently doing a 8 week cycle trifecta of H-50 -5 weeks, TST-6 Weeks, and Zol- 6 weeks. I will do PCT for 60 days, remain PH free for another 30 days and then start again the following month= 8 weeks on 90 days off- repeat twice. 4 weeks I have always found to be too short except for supps like Superdrol. I usually make adjustments as needed during a cycle. I always have had success with doing what's best for my body whether it be extending cycles, stacking, or upping amounts. I have never experienced any serious side effects which would cause me concern. I do play it safe but I do it right.
 

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it all depends on on the ph's, i myself like the 6-8 week cycles. i always frontload on liver supps to a certain extent depending on what im taking. i also pct on how i feel. usually after 4 weeks i feel great. it depends on the person some people cant handle a high dose 4 week superdrol cycle while others can do an 8 week superdrol/phera cycle without problems.im planning on a superdrol/phera cycle that will prob be 6-8 weeks depending on how i feel with at least 4 weeks pct followed by a phera or finigenx cycle with m-trn and m-zol at the end to shape up for summer...im prob gonna run the phera/finigenx/trn/zol for 8 weeks::twisted:
 

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how do you guys feel about a 4wks Superdrol/4 wks PCT/ 4 wks Havoc/ 4 wks PCT???
 
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according to this thread, "4 weeks on/4 weeks off 2 times in a row" is the "best" way to cycle.

...does this also apply to pulsing PH's? or just straight cycles?
 
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4 on-4 off helps minimize the sides, right?

However, does anyone have blood/lipid #'s to back this up, or is this stricktly experience based? I prefer science to opinion, but hey there is a lot expertise on this board, so I am hoping there is more to this thread than preference...

Thanks ahead of time!

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This isnt really a good poll as it depnds on the steroid taken. For example if you were taking Superdrol you would cycle it 3-4 weeks as the gaines cease then. If you were taking Halodrol you would run for 6-8 weeks as thats when it realy kicks in. All depends on the roid.
 
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lol

this poll was created in jan of 2003.........
 

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