any ph for leaning/cutting?

  1. Question any ph for leaning/cutting?


    whats a quality ph for leaning/cutting? i tried m-drol while dieting and i noticed it wasnt the best choice. too much water, i noticed i wasnt as defined as before. i want something that may add a few pounds but mainly drop the bf% and help to still retain my size.


  2. h-drol, havoc/epistane, 11-oxo, furazadrol, maybe trenadrol
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  3. all good choices there, I found my best results from Havoc, and not much from Fura.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    all good choices there, I found my best results from Havoc, and not much from Fura.
    i dont think many people see much from furazadrol. i know i didnt. unless you take lik. 10 pills a day....

  5. trenadrol ripped fat off me more than anything else ever has (supplement wise). it did give me gyno but as far as fat loss it was outstanding.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by supersize77 View Post
    it did give me gyno but as far as fat loss it was outstanding.
    Well thats a glowing endorsement...

  7. Quote Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    Well thats a glowing endorsement...
    i emailed kilosports yesterday, im trying to find out what is in trenadrol, what compound it relates to ect. when i hear back ill let people know

  8. Quote Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    Well thats a glowing endorsement...
    I know right, hahaha!

  9. Guys i found epi at 30mg a day plus 4 caps of 11-oxo, to be outstanding, i didnt loose weight but i cut up my abs and backside in 3 weeks, 10 mins cardio each morning, 45 minute workout, and 10 -20 mins cardio before bed, didnt drop my calories, 11-oxo is awesome, dont use it to bulk, its to expensive and there are better options, just use it to cut, very very nice.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Guys i found epi at 30mg a day plus 4 caps of 11-oxo, to be outstanding, i didnt loose weight but i cut up my abs and backside in 3 weeks, 10 mins cardio each morning, 45 minute workout, and 10 -20 mins cardio before bed, didnt drop my calories, 11-oxo is awesome, dont use it to bulk, its to expensive and there are better options, just use it to cut, very very nice.

    thanks for the feeback on that,

    im personlly interested in a Trenadrol and 11oxo stack

  11. i have not ran either epistane or halo. obviously they are two different products, but how do they differ. i have tried doing some reading before replying this post but they both make similar "claims". i just want some opinions. thanks

  12. Quote Originally Posted by ryaroberts View Post
    i have not ran either epistane or halo. obviously they are two different products, but how do they differ. i have tried doing some reading before replying this post but they both make similar "claims". i just want some opinions. thanks
    In my opinion epi (an actual steroid) kicks in quicker and stronger than halodrol (prohormone). Both products produce fairly dry/lean gains but for me, vascularity and strength gains were significantly better on epi than halodrol.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by supersize77 View Post
    In my opinion epi (an actual steroid) kicks in quicker and stronger than halodrol (prohormone). Both products produce fairly dry/lean gains but for me, vascularity and strength gains were significantly better or epi than halodrol.
    How much halo did you run?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    How much halo did you run?
    I did 75/75/75/100/100/100. 40/40/40/40/40 for epi.
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