Just tried the Raspberry Ketones
- 09-27-2006, 12:58 PM
Just tried the Raspberry Ketones
I just got some raspberry ketones in. I was laughing at the stuff because it looks JUST like cotton candy! Taking it straight is odd (used aprox 100-150mg), it dissolves in your mouth then starts to warm up pretty much instantly kinda of like cayenne but more ďwarm feelingĒ then a taste. I could tell once it hit my stomach because it the same feeling I get when I have a shot or 2 of whiskey and my stomach felt all nice and warm. Oddly this stuff works on me because it raised my body temp up a few notches. My gf could tell that my body temp had risen just by touching my t-shirt. This is going to handy take before heading out in the winter. Would anyone know if using mortar and pestle on this would be ok so I can cap it? Toad how many times daily did you dose it and at what amounts?
- 09-27-2006, 02:09 PM
That stuff sounds really interesting. Please let us know how it works for you. I just might pick some up.
- 09-27-2006, 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by RedwolfWV
09-27-2006, 11:26 PM
Keep us updated. I'm thinking of using the nettle extract, forslean, rasp ketones, tta and Venom (appetite) for my next cut in several months. We'll see but I'd love to see how this works for you.
10-01-2006, 06:25 PM
Wasnt somebody mentioning this might work bettter in a transdermal?
10-01-2006, 06:55 PM
If itís indeed like capsaicin (without the sides) then I donít see why not, and it wouldnít make you feel like your on fire. Itís working pretty good so far for me orally. Iím in a "cool" room and Iím sweating.Originally Posted by rugger48
10-01-2006, 09:12 PM
I'm going to give this a run - I've been meaning to try it.
I wonder why it's not in a thermogenic out on the market?
10-01-2006, 09:22 PM
Thanks rivet i'm going to give it a try as well.
10-01-2006, 10:50 PM
Originally Posted by jmh80
I believe it is in Scorch.
10-01-2006, 11:35 PM
did ya weigh out a dose, or just approximate?
I need to get a scale I think. Anyone have a good reccomendation?
10-02-2006, 06:01 AM
Originally Posted by jmh80
Iím seeing it slowly now. The new MAN Scorch has it inside it now and the new Biotest Hot Rox: Extreme. Im really liking it alot. I like having it separate so this way I can dose it with a stim or without. I would recommend capping it if you can or at least mixing it up with water and waiting a lil bit before drinking it. Iím finding just putting it on my tongue and letting dissolve a bit before swallowing is irritating my throat because thatís not enough to let the coarse fibers to dissolve.
Its neat since now you can easily have something that uses the hormone-sensitive lipase pathway (HSL) while hitting fat loss at other angles.
10-02-2006, 06:06 AM
Your lucky I JUST weighed out a dose. Its so fluffy in its normal state that a heaping 1/4 tea spoon was 200mg. I got the "My Weigh 200-Z" Scale. Its a good but can only do 0. of a gram (as in 0.2= 200mg). Scales that measure nicely in the mg range cost much more.Originally Posted by RedwolfWV
10-02-2006, 10:23 AM
Originally Posted by Rivet
I'm going to talk to CNW about splitting an order, so I think it's ok if I post in this forum.
I just made a deal to import some 0.01 accuracy scales at a VERY good price. I want to judge demand.
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10-02-2006, 01:50 PM
i'd be interested in a scale too.. all the good mg ones cost some big $$
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10-02-2006, 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by dsade
How good a price? I would be interested in a better scale. I would just add one to my next CNW order after he would get them (if ge does)
On another note. Im going to have to start crushing and capping this. Its been a few days now and its starting to irritate my throat (sore throat). Its not the actual compound but the texture (think fibre glass meets cotton candy). Having it sit in water helps a little bit but still bothers me. Either cap this or perhaps take it with a shake or something creamy so the "fibres" get stuck in the shake and not in your throat. I always took it on a empty stomach about 10 mins before eating so I dont know how it acts when taken with food. Perhaps transdermal would be good...but I wonder if that would irritate the skin if not all RK's are disolved?
10-02-2006, 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by Rivet
RKs won't irritate the skin in a transdermal assuming you aren't allergic. I usually just add a dose into my Xceed drink. Any flavored drink will mask it. It does throw off the taste of water and even diet coke though :-). OK, water has no taste, but with RKs it just has a strange flavor... easily bearable though. Its not a strong flavor, but you know its there. With xceed or any citrus or fruit flavored drink I can't tell its there.
10-02-2006, 07:33 PM
Its not the taste bothering me. Its the fibres getting getting stuck at the back of my throat. Perhaps the RK's you have is a finely ground powder. I JUST grounded mine up and put 200mg RK 300mg Green Tea per 00 cap. Just took it and works fine and dandy 15mins later Im wondering if the temp over here went up or if its just meOriginally Posted by tsc
10-02-2006, 08:17 PM
Originally Posted by jmh80
Look for a big word that ends in -one. There's a possibility that it might be an isomer.
10-02-2006, 09:18 PM
10-02-2006, 09:20 PM
I think hes saying its a hiden active in some formulas. Is it warm in here?Originally Posted by jmh80
10-02-2006, 09:55 PM
hot rox anybody?
10-02-2006, 10:01 PM
no, its the same stuff as you have no doubt. fluffy fiberglass like crystals. If you mix it in a drink you don't have the stuff getting stuck in your throat. The taste isn't bad, I don't think people will have a problem drinking it at all, just saying it goes better with some drink flavors. It does have a fast effect doesn't it!Originally Posted by Rivet
10-02-2006, 10:05 PM
It makes you grow a tail.Originally Posted by jmh80
10-02-2006, 10:07 PM
I've already got a "tail" YR.
Ubi likes it.
10-02-2006, 10:10 PM
Aww I could just be impatient and didnít let it dissolved enough! OH well I got it capped now. I can take it to work without looking like Im eating fiberglass. Aww I can barely taste it...unless I let it sit too long then it starts warming upOriginally Posted by tsc
10-03-2006, 03:17 AM
a ketone means there's an oxygen stuck to one of the carbonsOriginally Posted by jmh80
The suffix -one refers to a ketone
This is as opposed to an acohol, a carbon and a hydrogen stuck to the end of one of the carbons
The suffix -ol refers to an alcohol
all the goofy prefixes, suffixes, and numbers in an organic chemical name refer to what atoms are in it and where they are.
10-03-2006, 07:41 AM
did you have any difficulty capping it?Originally Posted by Rivet
10-03-2006, 05:56 PM
Mortar and pestle Grinded it up good. Here is what I did. I spent about 5 mins grinding it (its actually pretty resistant) It became smaller fiber particles. I used a scoop from a Syntrax Nectar container. It weighs 12.3grams. I use a cap em quick kit and tamper which holds 50 caps. To get 200mg of RK per cap you need to measure out 10grams of RK and 15grams (I used green tea since they go hand in hand, something else may be more or less dense). Knowing the scoop is 12.3 grams I put in the RK's until my scale said 22.5g then I did the same for the GT until the scale said 27.5g. I put them both in a shaker cup and shook it up pretty good. This gave me 50 perfect caps after tamping 2-3 timesOriginally Posted by rkieltyk
Now if you wanted to cap it all alone...that's another story...
10-03-2006, 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by thesinner
It hasn't been all that long since I took Organic 1 and 2.
I thought you were referring to a product name - not a type of molecule.
Just to clarify your post (I HATE errors) - a ketone is C=O but not on a terminal carbon while an ALDEHYDE is C(=O)-H - a terminal carbon. An alcohol is C-OH.
Incidently - both are carbonyl's.
(I was the one making fun of Custom for not knowing what a ketone was....I don't deal with ketones typically - but aldehydes are a ***** because they like react in Aldol condensations that makes beautiful red polymer once you get to a tetramer, which plugs up distillation towers/pumps/exchangers/et al.)
Good one Sinner.
10-05-2006, 04:27 PM
alright i got some RKs today and tried out ~100mg. fibers goin down were kinda weird. i havent felt the warm sensation yet, its been about 30 minutes since i took them. i wonder if you are tolerant to spices if it takes a higher dose for one to actually feel the effects
10-05-2006, 04:34 PM
I usually take 200mg. Warm sensation usually hit me in 15mins. Man I hope your not a non responder since it would be weird. Im the ultimate non responder and this works for me. Give it time, perhaps your only going to feel the extra heat when your doing something that would create heat anyways. Like at the gym you may sweat more? I just sweat sitting down on this stuff...Originally Posted by rkieltyk
10-05-2006, 05:03 PM
ill try 200mg tommorow morning, in my extremely cold room, so i should definetly know if its working. then ill take it before i workout saturday, and report back what happens
edit: i just put my hand on my face, and it feels warmer than usual (~1 hr after dose) but i wouldnt have noticed any wamrness had i not felt my face
10-05-2006, 05:14 PM
Yea there ya go. I dose it higher so maybe at 100mg its very slow and subtle. When I use it I have to ask my gf if the room is warm or not because I cant tell. hahaOriginally Posted by rkieltyk
10-05-2006, 05:20 PM
I'm gonna place an order for them soon. They should be really interesting to try while out hunting this winter.
10-05-2006, 05:32 PM
Kinda like what the Natzi's did with DNPOriginally Posted by RedwolfWV
10-05-2006, 05:54 PM
i wonder if theres any benefit to low dosing this with meals throughout the day?
i.e. 100mg 5-6x before meals
or would it cause some stomach issues?
10-05-2006, 05:58 PM
I took it about 15mins before meal to give it time to warm me up. For ease of dosing I just took it at 200mg 3x a day. Breakfast, Mid afternoon and before bed. But your idea may work just as well or better let me know. If it causes stomach issues just try it my way or lower the dose. Good luck!Originally Posted by rkieltyk
10-05-2006, 06:32 PM
What did they use it for... (I really hate to ask, but I have to know).Originally Posted by Rivet
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10-05-2006, 06:35 PM
From what I read they gave it to some soldiers in the winter. Probably just to keep them warm during the harsh winter in the field.Originally Posted by ManBeast
10-06-2006, 10:50 AM
tried to cap it with some rhodiala, probably the messiest, most unsuccesful thing ive ever done.
SO I dosed it at 200mg and didnt feel much. I am mixing it with water though. ill try it at 200 w/o water later on today if im still awake
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