www.si03.com

What do you guys think about them?

Their protein and creatine mixes are great. I haven't tried their new thermo Fyre yet so I can't comment on that. I'm not a huge fan of the NO supps either, but at least their's is effective.

I'd say that if you could get some Hyper-H at a decent price(since so many people are wanting a good deal on AA) then you may have a winner.

Since the FDA smacked them with Triax, Lipo, and Adipo their products have not lived up to their claims. I have used the proxylon -decent at doses of 6 caps a day. Beta-3-garbage!!! Nectar-great for a isolate just get more flavors as they get old for me. Gugulbolic- garbage. Their Ph's were good, thats just my take on them... They need a hit like Whitney!!!

I've only tried their Nectar product. I think it's great. Fuzzy Navel and Strawberry Kiwi are great flavors.

-Tinytoad

Decent stuff but overpriced. Somebody has to pay for all the advertising and fancy packaging, and that would be the consumer of course...

I am really hoping they do something good with the new Adipo that is supposed to be coming out.

I can get decent pricing on them now, but wanted to see how much interest there was.

I used to like the brand but that was roughly six years ago. Looking at their current products, I think its all garbage. With the exception of Nectar, which I have tried more recently and liked. But then again, I wouldn't buy Nectar anymore either.

I'm still a bit clueless on the split of Syntrax Innovations vs SI03, from the www.syntrax.com page the new adipo (been in the works for many years now.....) will be a syntrax (or whatever their new name will be) product, not SI03.

Fyre looks to be a slightly revamped version of the old MM4 product, basically added caffeine and yohimbe bark extract (the barberry extract is new too i think). The MM4 worked well as an add on to a weight loss stack. don't know why they are using the extracts instead of pure caffeine and Y-hcl. seriously though, how can they label it a non-stimulant product when its got a large dose of caffeine and yohimbe in it?

The nectar products are all very good. always thought the swole products were good.

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The new adipokinetix is not being produced by SI03. It is being produced by Syntrax Innovations. Not exactly sure about the how and why of the split, but they are separate companies.

I love the protein powders but haven't tried their other products recently. Nectar and even Matrix mix almost instantly, don't foam or clump, and taste great.

I really liked swole v2 and their nitrous. swole to me was the best tasting creatine I've had.

What's odd is Fyre is labelled "stimulant free", but it contains caffiene.

To answer your question, Nectar is good stuff, HyperHfor the AA crowd (since it seems to be slightly less expensive than the competitor), and maybe R for the summer cut. Not sure about the rest of the line.

I would use Nitrous before my homebrew days. I like the taste and consistancy of nectar. Their Nor ephedrine product was the best OTC stym fat burner I ever used. I always heard that Norephedrine was not banned but rather just a general agreement not to market it as an OTC fatburner. I really miss that stuff. It did not cross the brain barrier so I got no negative CNS sides.

I lost a little faith in their products after they dropped the adio prod and replaced it with a pseudo-science Beta-3 (octopamine) loser. They also lost points with a heavily hyped and underdosed (as per usual for the market)Methoxy product.

They used to be cutting edge. Adipo, Triax,and Lipo were great products, but all the negative stuff swirling arond Derek and Syntrax cost them a lot.
I think someone else owns Syntrax now, not Derek C.

Originally Posted by LCSULLA

I think someone else owns Syntrax now, not Derek C.

I wonder what he's up to these days. Does he still own Syntrax Innovations?

It almost seems like there was in-fighting and the company split into two - Syntrax and SI03, and both ue the name "syntrax". Confusing as hell. Anybody know why?

Originally Posted by ericgonzalez

It almost seems like there was in-fighting and the company split into two - Syntrax and SI03, and both ue the name "syntrax". Confusing as hell. Anybody know why?

Holy smokes, I didn't even notice this...

from what I gathered, Derek C. sold the company to SI03. I had read that he had a non-compete clause for X amount of time, but don't know if that is true. If they come out with adipo or anything else, it will not actually be under the syntrax brand name, as the www.syntrax.com site kinda mentions. Whether or not Derek has any involvement with SI03 i have no idea. On the old syntrax board he made it sound like he would be involved, but of course the forum was killed shortly after that time period, so not much else was said on how things were owned/organized.



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Well..... now I'm confused. So what products are manufactured my Syntrax and which belong to sio3 now?

Originally Posted by Sir Foxx

The new adipokinetix is not being produced by SI03. It is being produced by Syntrax Innovations. Not exactly sure about the how and why of the split, but they are separate companies.

I wouldn't expect this coming from you.

You've been around far to long.

Twinlab, AST, and MUSCLETECH have all filed bankrupcy, yet all 3 have come out with new products.

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

Well..... now I'm confused. So what products are manufactured my Syntrax and which belong to sio3 now?

I can't say I blame you. The only way I guess is to check their respective websites. Looks like the old Syntrax got to keep Armoazap, Proxylon and Methoxylon. SI03 got Nectar, Swole, R and everything else.

Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad

I wouldn't expect this coming from you.

You've been around far to long.

Twinlab, AST, and MUSCLETECH have all filed bankrupcy, yet all 3 have come out with new products.

muscletech is far from broke. (don't know if Twinlab and AST are "restructuring" as well or actually have cash flow problems.

Just out of curiousity are the three "Syntrax" products (aromazap, etc) actually available to retailers still? I see some online retailers have them, some don't. I was curious if they are still being sold. I just get the feeling nothing is happening on the syntrax front yet (if ever).... but if they did they'd start producing those and the new adipo.. sometime......

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