Dzine cycle help

[bigwhiteguy29]

Background lifting for 6 years non stop.

6'3-6'4ish 238 pounds

goal weight 240-240 little leaner but mainly gain strength

previous cycles:

Epi Low dose 4 weeks OTC pct

hdrol 6 weeks medium to high dose OTC pct

p-mag plus furuza A 6 week really high dose clomid pct

my 4th cycle i choose d-Zine, i was wondering if people got gyno while on cycle much even if being ran 6 weeks? Should i do 15/30/30/30/30/45
30/30/30/30/30/30 or 30/30/30/45/45

I respond fast to even low doses i think. In another thread i came across a guy getting gyno while on cycle, does this convert or cause prolactin?

My PCT will be Torem plus OTC goodies and letro on hand.

other options i have are 3 bottles of epi strong. I will also be running Dermacrine through out cycle.

 

[swollen87]

Sorry bro, I didn't mean to scare you in the other thread... run the dzine... if you get a flare up, fight the focker with letro and nolva.... maybe even run it with pstanz... pm me for help setting things up if you need to

 

[bigwhiteguy29]

Sorry bro, I didn't mean to scare you in the other thread... run the dzine... if you get a flare up, fight the focker with letro and nolva.... maybe even run it with pstanz... pm me for help setting things up if you need to

thanks man haha yeah you did. i have nolva and letro on hand but plan on using torem for PCT.


Is Pstanz banned now?

 

[bigwhiteguy29]

thanks man haha yeah you did. i have nolva and letro on hand but plan on using torem for PCT.


Is Pstanz banned now?

also what do you think about doing this

Dzine 30/30/45/45/0/0
Epi-strong 0/0/0 /(15-30/) 45/45

6 week cycle 4 of dzine and 3 of epi? should i do that or maybe dzine at 30 all the way through? or low dose epi with Dzine? i know it sucks stacking methyls.

I have 1 bottle of dzine and 3 of epi-srong. i am saving two epistrong for jsut a high dose run of that. i wanna use the other bottle now or maybe at a red dose with the new Andromass v3 maybe.

 

[bigbumpkin]

also what do you think about doing this

Dzine 30/30/45/45/0/0
Epi-strong 0/0/0 /(15-30/) 45/45

6 week cycle 4 of dzine and 3 of epi? should i do that or maybe dzine at 30 all the way through? or low dose epi with Dzine? i know it sucks stacking methyls.

I have 1 bottle of dzine and 3 of epi-srong. i am saving two epistrong for jsut a high dose run of that. i wanna use the other bottle now or maybe at a red dose with the new Andromass v3 maybe.

I wouldn't stack dzine without out a non methyl as ur bridge then u r talking a long CYCLE ---WHEN WORRIED ABOUT GYNO PROB A NO GO
I would stick to just a 6 week solo dzine and when I ran it was not happy till I hit 45 went high as 60
I would only do first week 30 would do this--30/45/45/45/45/45
If all is good last week hit 60

 

[swollen87]

I wouldn't stack dzine without out a non methyl as ur bridge then u r talking a long CYCLE ---WHEN WORRIED ABOUT GYNO PROB A NO GO
I would stick to just a 6 week solo dzine and when I ran it was not happy till I hit 45 went high as 60
I would only do first week 30 would do this--30/45/45/45/45/45
If all is good last week hit 60

bridge? methyl? what? gyno?

i have no clue what you just tried to recommend...

dont hit 60 w dzine... ever... if i were to run it again it would be @ 30 all the way through... i didnt notice any "extra" gains from 45mg

pstanz isnt banned... run it with the dzine... it works simmilar to how nolvadex does, except acting on the progesterone receptor instead of the ER..

pstanz should give some extra stength gains too... and keep bloat down (dzine is somewhat dry, but bloat is possible from extra glycogen/water)

keep the epi for later... unless you wanna run 4 wks dzine 4 weeks epi with pstanz throughout

something like

dzine 30/30/30/30
epi 0/0/30/30/30 (or 40)
pstanz 150/150/150/150/150/150 (you can go higher here too if you got the $$)

and like i said, have some liver support (UCDA or TUCDA/sam-E/milk thistle) along with some bromo/caber/prami and letro and nolva all on hand...

in my experience, any ph will make my nips flare, and its a constant battle from the start to keep them from puffin up bad...

but dzine is AWESOME for strength gains...


when i ran it @ 45 mg i went from 185 to 210-212 in 6 weeks with maybe only a 1-2% gain in bf..

bench went from 315 to 365- squat from 385 to 425- dead from 525 to 550

kept almost ALL of that as well

 

[bigwhiteguy29]

bridge? methyl? what? gyno?

i have no clue what you just tried to recommend...

dont hit 60 w dzine... ever... if i were to run it again it would be @ 30 all the way through... i didnt notice any "extra" gains from 45mg

pstanz isnt banned... run it with the dzine... it works simmilar to how nolvadex does, except acting on the progesterone receptor instead of the ER..

pstanz should give some extra stength gains too... and keep bloat down (dzine is somewhat dry, but bloat is possible from extra glycogen/water)

keep the epi for later... unless you wanna run 4 wks dzine 4 weeks epi with pstanz throughout

something like

dzine 30/30/30/30
epi 0/0/30/30/30 (or 40)
pstanz 150/150/150/150/150/150 (you can go higher here too if you got the $$)

and like i said, have some liver support (UCDA or TUCDA/sam-E/milk thistle) along with some bromo/caber/prami and letro and nolva all on hand...

in my experience, any ph will make my nips flare, and its a constant battle from the start to keep them from puffin up bad...

but dzine is AWESOME for strength gains...


when i ran it @ 45 mg i went from 185 to 210-212 in 6 weeks with maybe only a 1-2% gain in bf..

bench went from 315 to 365- squat from 385 to 425- dead from 525 to 550

kept almost ALL of that as well

thanks, i didnt wanna buy another bottle of Dzine do do 45mg, so i think ill do pstanz with my dzine. thanks for the advice.

 

[bigwhiteguy29]

Wow purchased a huge order haha

so i got another bottle of dzine. planning on running somethingl ike 30/30/45/45/45/45 ( i will have so left over caps that maybe ill low dose at 15mg with something else down the road for a few weeks.

i also bought two bottles of Pstanz planning on doing something like 150/150/200/200/250/250 or something.

also bought a few formestanes to have on hand as well as a bottle of anabeta for PCT to go along with my DAA, Torem, and HGH Pro.

yikes i have a HUGE stash.

This is my stack i own in my house

2 bottles of Dzine
2 Tren Xtreme
3 epi-strong
2 RS Transderms
1 SNS DAA
1 HGH Pro
2 cycle assisnts
2 Pstanz
3 1/2 Topical Formestane

1 big ass bottle of Torem
2/3 bottle of clomid
1 bottle of Nolva



this is going to take me 1.5 years to use. I am not going to use the Tren however, screw that stuff.

 

[swollen87]

I want the tren plz... btw start at 15-30mg and adjust.. u might not need 45mg

 

[bigwhiteguy29]

I want the tren plz... btw start at 15-30mg and adjust.. u might not need 45mg

yeah i jumped the gun, first day 15mg make sure it doesnt make me sick, ive heard of that before. i actually think i maybe do the 30mg for 3 weeks instead of 2 so i can save a few caps to do a low dose or a pulse some other time.

you think 200mg of pstanz will do the trick?

 

[swollen87]

yeah i jumped the gun, first day 15mg make sure it doesnt make me sick, ive heard of that before. i actually think i maybe do the 30mg for 3 weeks instead of 2 so i can save a few caps to do a low dose or a pulse some other time.

you think 200mg of pstanz will do the trick?

yeah, but ive seen people go as high as 500....

dont be afraid to drop the dose a bit if you run into sides

 

[bigwhiteguy29]

yeah, but ive seen people go as high as 500....

dont be afraid to drop the dose a bit if you run into sides

i did my first two cycles in a 1 year spand then didnt do a cycle for about 1.5 years and finished my last cycle in MAy. so the last thing i do is come up short by only being able to do 5 1/2 weeks at 30mg if i dont get desired. I will def lower dose if sides occur and be able to save caps which is nice.

after cycle support, the PH itself, and the PCT expenses i wanna make sure i have enough.

I wonder if anyone has run a low dose of 15mg during another cycle before?

thanks for the help man, and yeah ive seen pstanz being dosed pretty high too : ( think it wil do the job?