to hdrol or not to hdrol
- 07-12-2011, 11:15 PM
- 07-15-2011, 02:37 AM
Well I've been doing some researching and found two products that I am very interested in. Forma stanzol for estro control and also increases igf1 . The other supplement is Forged post cycle by transform supplements. Forged is also suppose to keep estro in check as well and increase natural test. My H-drol cycle will be 50/50/50/50/50/75. Any help is much appreciated.
07-15-2011, 03:37 PM
07-18-2011, 12:44 AM
ive almost narrowed down my pct. can anyone tell me what the reason to stacking sns daa/animal stack with pct assist when pct assist is already suppose to increase tests?
07-18-2011, 01:37 AM
07-18-2011, 01:40 AM
they are both used for the same reasons, to boost test.
I wouldn't use both at the same time, but when one is finished, begin using the other one, but that isn't really needed, pct assist is enough to get you there.
maybe if you wanted to, after your 4 week pct plan is done, use a t booster like animal stak or w/e else is popular.
the daa and pct assist each work by increasing test levels via different means, this is why those two should be stacked together.
07-18-2011, 11:05 AM
Jbry what two products shouldn't be taken at the same time? sns daa and animal stack? So my entire cycle will most likey go like this. Hdrol - 50/50/50/50/50/ (50 or 75 depending. during last week of cycle). Pct - Pct assist, sns daa and formestane. That's from the advice of jbry and from what I read on this site. I have another question.... If Pct assist is suppose to
Optimize Natural Testosterone
Improve Estrogen Management
Help Preserve Muscle Gains
Improve Strength, Recovery, & Lean Muscle
Ideal for PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) or Natural Testosterone Enhancement Regimens
Then why not just take Pct assist after my Hdrol cycle and then sns daa after Pct assist? Also a buddy of mine only pct's with trx by ubn an nitric. He claims trx has everything required to keep estro/test/libido in check. Is there any truth in that? I think I've posted about trx before and someone called it bunk and a waste of money I think.
07-18-2011, 04:50 PM
07-18-2011, 07:10 PM
daa as im sure you have read, increases test by a different mean than the compounds found in pct assist. so it is just helping to increase your t levels that much more.
but run the animal stack after you finish those too if you want in order to keep you your t going strong.
07-18-2011, 10:57 PM
07-19-2011, 12:26 AM
i believe it comes with 21 packs, so 3 weeks. then give your body a break and roll natural for a while, get used to the new weight.
no matter what you see, more time off is always better, though it's hard to do. lol.
07-19-2011, 12:34 AM
alright jbry ive almost about ready to purchase my pct supps. i have two options right now and because of you and this forum i would say i have a better grasp of what i should have in my pct setup. option 1 = pct assist/sns daa/formestane and after those are done ill start a cycle of animal stack 2. and if all goes well with animal stack2 then i might just stay on that for a few more cycles, of course with the one week break in between cycles. option 2 is basically just to drop the formestane because pct is already suppose to take care of estro levels and ive read so much about hdrol being very mild especially at just 50mg/day.
07-19-2011, 12:44 AM
flip a coin to decide if your having trouble. it's how my wife an I make all our tough buying decisions. lol.
07-19-2011, 01:23 AM
07-19-2011, 09:09 AM
08-31-2011, 10:49 PM
How long should you preload your Cycle Support for if your doing a six week cycle at 50/50/75/75/75/75? I've heard 2 weeks before at 4 pills a day, 1 week before at 4 pills a day and ive also heard...Im 24, 5'6" and 180.
08-31-2011, 10:52 PM
what ever floats your boat. if you are healthy, and dont drink on a regular basis, eat a healthy diet, you can start the cycle support the day you start the cycle.
if you need to get healthy, and clean up your insides, may want to run it a 2-3 weeks out and continue on through the cycle.
09-23-2011, 10:36 AM
09-23-2011, 02:13 PM
09-23-2011, 03:18 PM
09-30-2011, 12:36 AM
So I've finished my first two weeks at 50mg per day and just upped it to 75mg a day. I gotta say im seeing some definite results and Ive gotten some solid strength gains. My weight has gone up to a solid 178-180 for the past week and Its stayed their mostly because Im shredding a lot for fat but gaining muscle at the same time. just did 400 for 6 on squat today and felt great. Im adding my picture from the day before my cycle, after week 1 and yesterdays pic.
09-30-2011, 11:12 PM
Don't mean to hijack the this thread, but i didn't want to make a separate thread just to ask this:
-About how much mg of fish oil is supposed to be taken in daily during cycle/during pct?
-Does fish oil/multivits/protein/weight gainer affect H-drol absorption?
-How many mgs of hawthorn and milk thistle should be preloaded daily?
09-30-2011, 11:28 PM
no. even if they did, the amount of noticeability is miniscule. protein and weight gainer wouldn't hurt for a bulk-Does fish oil/multivits/protein/weight gainer affect H-drol absorption?
cycle assist has all the supports you need for the full run. 1 bottle at 8 caps a day, or two if the cycle is 5-6 weeks. you can try preloading hawthorne if you want.-How many mgs of hawthorn and milk thistle should be preloaded daily?
10-03-2011, 11:33 PM
Early AM: 50mg H-drol/2400 mg fish oil
Afternoon: Cycle Assist/ 1500mg Glucosamine, 1200mg Chondroitin
Dinner: 25mg H-drol/ 2400 mg fish oil
Before bed: Cycle Assist/ 1500mg Glucosamine, 1200mg Chondroitin
I'm feeling great, no sides and seeing what I want in my body and my lifts!
10-10-2011, 11:02 PM
well i mean better to be safe than sorry right? and if you don't mind me asking what does the chondriotin do to benefit you during the cycle?
10-11-2011, 08:07 AM
10-22-2011, 04:40 PM
So im almost done with my cycle, and I was planning on just taking the PCT Assist which ive heard is fine but I also see a lot of talk about Nolva and SNS DAA. Any opinions?
10-22-2011, 04:54 PM
10-25-2011, 02:03 PM
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