Frustrated. Pct for P-plex
- 07-11-2010, 05:25 PM
Frustrated. Pct for P-plex
I recently joined here just to figure this out. I'm 25. Never done a PH before and very confused with the diverse pct talk.
What exacty can I get away with taking? I've heard people say clomid and OTC are useless? Can I just get a straight answer for say an average person not looking to spend hundreds of dollars. I feel like by the time I get a clear answer the pills will expire.
- 07-11-2010, 05:26 PM
Excuse me that's use clomid and OTCs are useless.
- 07-11-2010, 05:31 PM
its pretty simple bro. nolva or clomid are a must and OTC are useless... but good news for you is that nolva and/or clomid are very easy to obtain and often the same price as the OTC options. nolva at 40/20/20/10 or clomid at 75/50/50/25... everyone has slightly different dosing protocols that work for them. but this gives you a guideline.
07-11-2010, 06:10 PM
I certainly would'nt say OTCs are useless . I know of many people who have successfully used Inhibit E and a natty booster for P-plex pct.
07-11-2010, 06:16 PM
and i have seen many people unsuccessfully attempt the same thing and lose all their gains. i certainly would not recommend an OTC PCT for a suppressive steroid such as phera.
07-11-2010, 06:17 PM
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07-11-2010, 06:58 PM
there is alot of "bunk" steroids, bunk SERMs, bunk peptides, bunk prohormones, bunk everything out there. due diligence folks.
07-11-2010, 08:47 PM
Thank you... looking at clomid vs nolva opinions seems pretty diverse as well. Thinking I will try clomid.
07-12-2010, 07:35 AM
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07-12-2010, 07:40 AM
USE A SERM!!!!! Trust me. OTC Pct sucks!
07-12-2010, 01:30 PM
I would like to say that if your suseptable to emotional distraught use nolva. . its much easier on the mood fluxuations!!! my vote is for nolva if you can find a legit source if not i have successfully kept my gains from m-drol/hdrol with OTC pct's. . .in my opinion each body is different. . SERM's are nice if you have a quote legit source end quote. . .funny thing is since this isn't an open source board how valid is the research you do if you don't know what your looking for. . . with that being said. . i do believe there are some board sponsors that might be able to lead you in the right direction. . phera is the real deal so if you have questions continue to ask
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07-12-2010, 04:54 PM
I have used many many otc pcts. I am 37 and have ran 2 cycles prior to my last blood panel(this may). Total test came back at 537. Everything else in check. HDL a little low. The year prior panel actually had a lower test reading.
Very low dose clomid and all otc. I cycle 6-16 weeks and pct for 8-12 weeks at time.
I use clomid when I use RC's
I refuse to use nolva. Honestly, i prefer anything over nolva.
If/when I use an AI its Ldex or Exemestane, or something similar like TD Forma-Stanzol.
OTC PCT is NOT useless. One just needs to know which OTC to use and how to use them.
PM if you need or want that otc pct information.
07-12-2010, 05:05 PM
07-12-2010, 05:14 PM
OTC aren't useless but the point is SERMs render them pretty obsolete. I think an OTC test booster might make a good stack with a SERM. I've also taken to the idea of starting an OTC test booster during week 3 of PCT, or week 5 of PCT to keep test elevated longer, or possibly elevate the test levels even higher.
But in terms of pure functionality, something like clomid is, IME, pretty much unbeatable. I had done lots of nolva PCTs and recovered fine, but clomid changed my PCTs forever... Now I will never do a PCT without clomid ever. It's just leaps and bounds more effective than everything else (for me anyway). I highly recommend it... yes some people get emotional sides so it's not for everyone but for most people, clomid is just hands down THE **** to use for PCT.
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