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JazzV

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Let's just say Reagan was president when I started lifting. And it was his first term. So that will give you a good idea of my age.

I've put on plenty of muscle over the years but as I've gotten older it's been harder to keep the fat off. I've had some favorable results with other test booster/ estrogen suppressants so I'd like to give something a little stronger a try.

I've been considering E-stane and H-drol. I'm not sure which would be better for me.

There's a lot of info. about H-drol out there but I don't see as much on E-stane....

anyway this would be my cycle:
4-6 weeks CEL prohormone (TBD)
run with Cycle support

post cycle- novedex xt
 
E-Stane is epistane or Havoc. there's plenty of info on here about those. look at the chemical makeup, its the same. might help you in your info seeking. i vote for H-Drol, for what its worth.
 
thanks for the reply.

my goal is to lean out. I probably have about 5 lbs of body fat to drop for my target. If i could do that without loosing my muscle mass I'd be happy. If I could gain a few pounds of muscle along the way, i'd jump up and down like I won the grand prize on "The Price is Right".
 
lennoxchi said:
5 lbs. you can do that through diet.......and training, in like, no time.
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well I'm 43 and it's gotten a bit tougher to make the gains. I figured if I set my goals low, I might be pleasantly suprised.

My diet is on.. actually it's not really a diet. I've been eating this way for so long it's just how I eat.

And i train as hard as my joints allow..... now if there was pill that fixed shoulders....
 
JazzV said:
well I'm 43 and it's gotten a bit tougher to make the gains. I figured if I set my goals low, I might be pleasantly suprised.

My diet is on.. actually it's not really a diet. I've been eating this way for so long it's just how I eat.

And i train as hard as my joints allow..... now if there was pill that fixed shoulders....
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pill no. cortisone now theres a steroid
 
I'd go with hdrol.

I'd run it 5-6 weeks alongside cycle assist, taurine and cissus (or your joint product of choice) and hten for PCT I'd use inhibit E or 6oxo and PCT Assist.
 
I'd like to do this with a solid education behind me.
to understand the function of each part of the cycle, I'm going to spell it out for myself. Please some one correct me if I have this wrong.
cycle
H-Drol is a pro-hormone. outside source of testosterone. I assume the chloro and methyl groups get clipped by the liver and the conversion takes place.
the cycle assist helps with liver function
PCT
6-oxo is a test booster which functions by stimulating the hypothalmus
PCT assist is another test booster which looks like it's primarily herbal


what is this anti-aromatase inhibitor (sp?) that I see coming up in these post? I assume this is an estrogen blocker.
 
JazzV said:
I'd like to do this with a solid education behind me.
to understand the function of each part of the cycle, I'm going to spell it out for myself. Please some one correct me if I have this wrong.
cycle
H-Drol is a pro-hormone. outside source of testosterone. I assume the chloro and methyl groups get clipped by the liver and the conversion takes place.
the cycle assist helps with liver function
PCT
6-oxo is a test booster which functions by stimulating the hypothalmus
PCT assist is another test booster which looks like it's primarily herbal


what is this anti-aromatase inhibitor (sp?) that I see coming up in these post? I assume this is an estrogen blocker.
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6-oxo is your AI aromitize inbihitor
 
JazzV said:
I'd like to do this with a solid education behind me.
to understand the function of each part of the cycle, I'm going to spell it out for myself. Please some one correct me if I have this wrong.
cycle
H-Drol is a pro-hormone. outside source of testosterone. I assume the chloro and methyl groups get clipped by the liver and the conversion takes place.
the cycle assist helps with liver function
PCT
6-oxo is a test booster which functions by stimulating the hypothalmus
PCT assist is another test booster which looks like it's primarily herbal


what is this anti-aromatase inhibitor (sp?) that I see coming up in these post? I assume this is an estrogen blocker.
Click to expand...

Cycle assist helps with liver function, blood pressure issues and some prostate issues as well.

6oxo is an AI to control estrogen rebound and promote Test while PCT assist is another test booster more geared towards sparking test, but has some estrogen regulation properties as well.
 
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