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Old 04-29-2009, 10:15 AM  
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how effective would a 4 week 50mg run be for someone my size? im looking to extend my current cycle (running tren right now) and i loved the promag-25 when i ran it, but i dont think 50mg would do me much good, and i dont have the spare cash to buy 2 bottles
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how effective would a 4 week 50mg run be for someone my size? im looking to extend my current cycle (running tren right now) and i loved the promag-25 when i ran it, but i dont think 50mg would do me much good, and i dont have the spare cash to buy 2 bottles
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how effective would a 4 week 50mg run be for someone my size? im looking to extend my current cycle (running tren right now) and i loved the promag-25 when i ran it, but i dont think 50mg would do me much good, and i dont have the spare cash to buy 2 bottles
I think that it would vary by the person. Some people will respond fine at 4 weeks at 50 mg where other people might need higher dosing or a longer cycle length.
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I think that it would vary by the person. Some people will respond fine at 4 weeks at 50 mg where other people might need higher dosing or a longer cycle length.
are 5-6 week cycle lengths unsafe. Every knowledgeable person i talk to says strictly 4 weeks max!!!!!!!!!!!!
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are 5-6 week cycle lengths unsafe. Every knowledgeable person i talk to says strictly 4 weeks max!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alot of people run our H-Drol for 6 week cycles and I have seen where alot of people intend on doing the same with P-Mag.

I think the 4 week rule definately apprlies with some of the stronger compounds though.
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guess ill just try it out because i responded well to promagnon 25
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are 5-6 week cycle lengths unsafe. Every knowledgeable person i talk to says strictly 4 weeks max!!!!!!!!!!!!
supposedly the original clinical trials with the promagnon compound barely showed any liver stress or hpta suppression even at 8 weeks. Not quite as friendly as Anavar, but just slightly less stressful than halo.

I'm planning 6 weeks at 75mg and expect it to be a breeze with minimal consequence. But as CEL said, this isn't an arbitrary dosage or cycle length. 75mg at 6 weeks is the "sweet spot" for making gains with minimal sides at the same time according to most of the feedback ever since the origianl p25 came out. It's a balancing act of sorts.

Btw, I dunno if you could call me knowledgable, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once
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75mg X 6weeks...u got me thinking
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pmag at 8 weeks, wow. i wonder what that is like?
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yea really, I did Hdrol for 5 weeks...couldn't imagine running a oral for 8, but I'd try
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pmag at 8 weeks, wow. i wonder what that is like?
You might just see more sides. Give it a go and log it.
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If someone didnt repspond well or like h-drol?

Would P-Mag be different enough, to work in a person who didnt like h-drol?

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supposedly the original clinical trials with the promagnon compound barely showed any liver stress or hpta suppression even at 8 weeks. Not quite as friendly as Anavar, but just slightly less stressful than halo.

I'm planning 6 weeks at 75mg and expect it to be a breeze with minimal consequence. But as CEL said, this isn't an arbitrary dosage or cycle length. 75mg at 6 weeks is the "sweet spot" for making gains with minimal sides at the same time according to most of the feedback ever since the origianl p25 came out. It's a balancing act of sorts.

Btw, I dunno if you could call me knowledgable, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once
can you link to theses studies?
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can you link to theses studies?
I'm posting second hand info on those studies. But, I'll see if I can come up with a link. No promises though brotha.
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If someone didnt repspond well or like h-drol?

Would P-Mag be different enough, to work in a person who didnt like h-drol?

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P-Mag and H-Drol are somewhat similiar, but still different enough to where it doesnt mean that because someone does or doesnt like one, that they would or wouldnt the other.
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I would like to understand how is it possible that you sell P-mag whereas Pro-magnon (Gaspari) has been discontinnued....




About Superdrol, it has been discontinued after the ban in 2005. Why are you and many others companies still able to sell Clones of Superdrol?

Is this same ingredient?
if not can you tell how it is possible to get exactly same result than original superdrol?



In past i was using E-form from Dermabolics it has been discontinued same time than superdrol, pro magnon etc.. after the ban in 2005 how is it possible that companies sell Formestane again? what s new?



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None of the compounds you listed were ever banned.

Edit: I see you are not from the US. There may be different laws in your country.
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I would like to understand how is it possible that you sell P-mag whereas Pro-magnon (Gaspari) has been discontinnued....

About Superdrol, it has been discontinued after the ban in 2005. Why are you and many others companies still able to sell Clones of Superdrol?

Is this same ingredient?
if not can you tell how it is possible to get exactly same result than original superdrol?

In past i was using E-form from Dermabolics it has been discontinued same time than superdrol, pro magnon etc.. after the ban in 2005 how is it possible that companies sell Formestane again? what s new?

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Promagnon was never banned; my understanding was that the materials got too hard for them to get. We were able to source quality raw materials so here we are.

Superdrol was never banned. AX was just asked to quit selling it.

Also, you referrred to the ban in 2005; neither promagnon or Superdrol were available before the ban, they were introduced after it.

Dermabolics was 'associated/owned by' BulkNutrition. Bulk Nutrition was sold to another company and I think the raws got too hard for them to get, so thats why that product went away.

Hope that clears things up.
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Promagnon was never banned; my understanding was that the materials got too hard for them to get. We were able to source quality raw materials so here we are.

Superdrol was never banned. AX was just asked to quit selling it.

Also, you referrred to the ban in 2005; neither promagnon or Superdrol were available before the ban, they were introduced after it.

Dermabolics was 'associated/owned by' BulkNutrition. Bulk Nutrition was sold to another company and I think the raws got too hard for them to get, so thats why that product went away.

Hope that clears things up.
Yes, you totally enligthen me on the subject thank you.

Does SD clones ingredient is exactly same as Superdrol?
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Does SD clones ingredient is exactly same as Superdrol?
M-Drol is exactly the same as Superdrol.
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hey, im back...and thinking about doing Pmag/Hdrol for 9 weeks...

Pmag:75/75/75/75/75
Hdrol:0/0/75/100/100/100
Support Supps:Fish Oil, HB, Vit-C, Cycle Support
PCT: Nolva, MT, Blue Up or Diesel Test, PCS, Im not sure what to take for cortisol..? (6OXO?)

what do you think???
Also, Ive done 2 cycles of Hdrol before, so I have experience with the compound, Im open to ?'s
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looking back at the 'Advanced Cycle', I could run it for 6 instead of 5....
Pmag:75/75/75/75/75/75
Hdrol:0/0/75/100/100/100

I may go to 125 or 150 on the Hdrol...but keep it at 9 weeks total, dont want to cause severe shutdown
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I personally dont see the point in stacking those 2 compounds.....
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I personally dont see the point in stacking those 2 compounds.....
I like to stick to compounds and stacks that others have had success with. I don't see the novelty in trying to create my own stack

With all the options CEL has to offer, I personally feel that there are much more appropriate stacking options and agree with MW 100%
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I personally dont see the point in stacking those 2 compounds.....
thats what I thought also, ok then what about Havoc or Epi/Hdrol or just Hdrol/Furaguno
Ive never touched Epi/Havoc...and dont really know much
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thats what I thought also, ok then what about Havoc or Epi/Hdrol or just Hdrol/Furaguno
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Instead of just picking and choosing, you could read some logs on various boards that cover Halo/epithio stacks or Halo/Furaz stacks that you just asked about. Your questions are valid, it's just not going to help you to ask the question "which steroids should I take." See my point?
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Instead of just picking and choosing, you could read some logs on various boards that cover Halo/epithio stacks or Halo/Furaz stacks that you just asked about. Your questions are valid, it's just not going to help you to ask the question "which steroids should I take." See my point?
exactly, I have experience with Hdrol and Furaguno, but not stacked. I have read and have friends who have ran Tren based PH's (Epi/Havoc), I've just never considered myself to take it until now, good point, thanks man
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exactly, I have experience with Hdrol and Furaguno, but not stacked. I have read and have friends who have ran Tren based PH's (Epi/Havoc), I've just never considered myself to take it until now, good point, thanks man
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cut...but some quality LBM wouldnt be a bad thing lol. Ive already done 2 cycles of Hdrol and one cycle of Furaguno, the Furaguno cycle was somewhat half-a$$ed and I still had good reults. Maybe Ill be Pmag/Furaguno
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