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Running the typical H-drol cycle at 50/50/75/75/75. Any suggestions for best PCT? Thanks.
Might want to read his reply again I do that $hit all the time.and CEL PCT Assist
Me Too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Might want to read his reply again I do that $hit all the time.
So what your saying MW1 is a safe PCT for H-drol is an anti-estrogen product, CEL PCT assist, and a cortisol blocker??? Thats it???SNS inhibit E dosed at 3/2/2/1 and CEL PCT Assist....i always use a cortisol blocker in pct , so Lean FX or Lean Xtreme would be good choices .
OR something like 6oxo 300/300/300/200 and stim -free Blue up or other natty test booster.
Yes that is an sufficient PCT ..and yes PCT assist also contains I3C and Reserv.So what your saying MW1 is a safe PCT for H-drol is an anti-estrogen product, CEL PCT assist, and a cortisol blocker??? Thats it???
Ive been doing sooo much research and everything is referring to things like I3C and transresveratol. But I take it those are all things that are combined in the PCT assist.
So is there really no need for an additional test booster or AI product?Yes that is an sufficient PCT ..and yes PCT assist also contains I3C and Reserv.
So Nolva is not needed at all. Even though I think I might be prone to prolactin induced gyno?Inhibit E at 3/2/2/1 ( or 6oxo 300/300/300/200) with PCT Assist at 4 caps a day is fine , Cortisol blocker would be added at the end of week one or two of PCT. No Nolva is not needed for Hdrol
Nolva wont do $hit for prolactin induced gyno.So Nolva is not needed at all. Even though I think I might be prone to prolactin induced gyno?
What would you suggest other than massive amounts of B6???Nolva wont do $hit for prolactin induced gyno.
Lemme look those up real quick.Cabergoline is probably the best, there is also 1-Carboxy
Yeah youre right that would be almost 2 straight months. I didnt even realize that.I've never used B6 at those levels because its toxic. Guess your on your own.
You dont need to use the PCT Assist for 7 weeks , 4 weeks should be fine OR if you do 7 weeks start at 5 or 6 caps aday and then taper down. As far as preloading Cycle Assist , the only thing that needs to be preloaded in CA is the Hawthorn so save yourself some cash and go to Walmart and pick up a bottle for $6 dollars and preload w/ that. Then when you start the cycle , you add the CA.So Nolva is not needed at all. Even though I think I might be prone to prolactin induced gyno?
I agree with the idea of keeping it simple I just see sooo many guys running Nolva after Hdrol and everyone says to have a SERM handy to be safe. Do you think itd be a good thing to have around the house?
If its possible I'll could snag some Nolva or Torem just in case my nipples start to itch or get puffy. I am very concerned about gyno. Ive never had it, nor do I ever want to get it.
But other than that everything looks okay if I run
PCT of Hdrol
weeks 1-7 CEL PCT assist 4 caps/day
weeks 1-4 Inhibit E 3/2/2/1
weeks 2-7 AX Lean FX 3 caps/day
What about CEL cycle support? Would that help if I preloaded for a couple days prior to starting the Hdrol?
I figure this stuff aint cheap, so if Im gonna do, I am gonna get as much as possible out of everything.
Anyone else care to chime in???
SNS inhibit E dosed at 3/2/2/1 and CEL PCT Assist....i always use a cortisol blocker in pct , so Lean FX or Lean Xtreme would be good choices .
OR something like 6oxo 300/300/300/200 and stim -free Blue up or other natty test booster.
Yea ivealways liked stim -free BlueupI'm throwin in blue up for an addition to my PCT.
The caffiene in the regular one can cause a spike in cortisol levels during PCT:raincloud:why the stim free. over the other. just curious.
well i do have some lean extreme for my PCT run but I got a good deal on blue up with the caffeine. I'm probably just going to use it for pre-workouts but I imagine the lean extreme will help if taken around the same time or immidiately post workout!The caffiene in the regular one can cause a spike in cortisol levels during PCT:raincloud:
Blue up wont be nearly as beneficial as PCT Assist. On cycle you would want to add some Cycle Assist and if you would like additional liver support in PCT , then SNS Liver Assist is a good buyWell, this is an old thread, but it's the 1st one I've found here on H-drol cycle PCT regimen.
So, I'd like to know if anyone has updates or better advice on this subject. Trying to get more viewpoints on this before I jump into it.
ATM, I've gotten the advice to do an H-drol cycle with only Blue Up (no stim) and Inhibit E in the PCT.
Would you recommend a liver cleanser during the cycle, PCT Assist and anything else for an H-drol cycle and PCT? Does the majority still believe Nolvadex or a SERM is unnecessary with an H-drol cycle?
What is lacking in the Blue Up? I was planning to use Inhibit-E 3/2/2/1 and Blue Up 3 a day until the bottle was empty for a PCT for H-drol 50/75/75/75/75/75. For supps I'm using Hawthorn and Milk Thistle. I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this cycle.Blue up wont be nearly as beneficial as PCT Assist. On cycle you would want to add some Cycle Assist and if you would like additional liver support in PCT , then SNS Liver Assist is a good buy
What is lacking in the Blue Up? I was planning to use Inhibit-E 3/2/2/1 and Blue Up 3 a day until the bottle was empty for a PCT for H-drol 50/75/75/75/75/75. For supps I'm using Hawthorn and Milk Thistle. I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this cycle.
Thanks.
Thanks for the info. I'm asking because I already have stim free BlueUp on the recommendation of someone who ran the same cycle I'm planning. Would you recommend not running the cycle with it, or is it sufficient?Blue Up Complex: 1100mg **
Tribulus Terrestris (Extracted for 80% Steroidal Saponins and 30% Protodioscin), Avena Sativa (Extracted for 15% Avenacosides A & B), Eurycoma Longifolia (Longjack Extracted for 28% Bioactive Glyco Peptides, 40% Glyco Saponins and 30% polysaccharides)
Blue Stim Complex: 225.mg **
Natural Caffeine, Pausinytalia Yohimbe Bark Extract (6.5 mg Yohimbine)
^^^^^^ Blue up is primarily a Tribulus/longjack product that may raise libido levels but is extremely mild in its test boosting capabilities, not to mention the Caffeine/Yohimbe is something you may want to stay away from in PCT as it can increase cortisol levels. For just $10 more you can get a very effective test booster
Stim free version would be alot better than the regular, however something like PCT Assist, Act Xtreme would be better suited for PCTThanks for the info. I'm asking because I already have stim free BlueUp on the recommendation of someone who ran the same cycle I'm planning. Would you recommend not running the cycle with it, or is it sufficient?
Inhibit E 3/2/2/1, should the CEL Assist be taken the same way? What about the Lean FX or Lean Extreme (depending on which one I buy) Just follow the directions on the back or there should be some routine I need to follow like Inhibit E ?SNS inhibit E dosed at 3/2/2/1 and CEL PCT Assist....i always use a cortisol blocker in pct , so Lean FX or Lean Xtreme would be good choices .
Preload the hawthorn for 1-2 weeks prior to starting cycle , then start the Cycle Assist at 4 caps twice a day(preferably with 4 hrs between ph and CA) throught out the entire cycle.*I know this thread is old but I don't see the need of creating another thread about PCT and cluttering the forum.
I just wanted an advice on when to take all the supplements. My cycle will be 4 or 5 weeks long. This is my first time so I want to take it slowly.
I have Hawthorn Berry, H-Drol, Cycle Assist, Inhibit E, PCT Assist. Will also purchase Lean FX or Lean Extreme.
So, prior to cycle I will preload Hawthorn Berry. How long should this be, 1 week is fine? Or should I just use Cycle Assist? Cause only after purchasing the stuff I noticed that Cycle Assist has Hawthorn Berry in it. D'oh!
During the cycle take H-Drol with Cycle Assist. I will probably gonna run 50/50/75/75/75. As far as Cycle Assist, take 4 pills every day through out the cycle? Should I lower it as I go towards the end of the cycle or no?
As for PCT
Inhibit E 3/2/2/1, should the CEL Assist be taken the same way? What about the Lean FX or Lean Extreme (depending on which one I buy) Just follow the directions on the back or there should be some routine I need to follow like Inhibit E ?
Epistane or E-stane by CEL. It's a high quality ph similar to H-drol but better strength gains users report.Sorry for hijacking this thread but any suggestions for a similar product to H-drol that I could use for next cycle?
thisˆˆˆˆEpistane or E-stane by CEL. It's a high quality ph similar to H-drol but better strength gains users report.
Yeah, but inhibit-e is cheaper + Novedex got recalled.How is it that everyone is on board with Inhibit-E and PCT assist, but Novedex XT and PCT Assist isn't enough? ...I thought Inhibit-E and GN Novedex XT are both ATD's and both work just fine...
Are you talking about V2 of Bioforge? If so , yes that with 6 oxo should be fine. I always use a cortisol blocker so you may want to consider that.Sorry to bring this up agen but im starting on H Drol and for a PCT im going to use BioForge - Pro Max - advanced version for more muscles and Ergopharm 6-OXO PCT
will this be enough????
Cheers JJ
As long as you do a 4 week cycle of H-Drol, isn't a 4 week PCT enough?You dont need to use the PCT Assist for 7 weeks , 4 weeks should be fine OR if you do 7 weeks start at 5 or 6 caps aday and then taper down. As far as preloading Cycle Assist , the only thing that needs to be preloaded in CA is the Hawthorn so save yourself some cash and go to Walmart and pick up a bottle for $6 dollars and preload w/ that. Then when you start the cycle , you add the CA.
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