IBE Reverse: What do you think?
- 07-20-2008, 03:40 PM
Originally Posted by corsaking;
My contribution argued against that standpoint.
Talking about meat, poultry, and fish, believe it or not, there are bodybuilders that do not eat these. Furthermore, it is not what you eat, but how much you absorb that counts. If we could get all of our vitamins from diet and meal replacement products, why do we need multivitamin supplements? As it turns out, we need multivitamin supplements, and vitamin-B12 is one of those vitamins that should be taken in the most bioavailable form available.
Originally Posted by corsaking;
Take your logic far enough, and bodybuilders do not need any supplements. Just food. The same nutritionists would probably also suggest that bodybuilders do not need supplemental creatine, because they get enough methionine, glycine and arginine, from their diets to synthesize creatine.
Originally Posted by corsaking;
No one has said a product such as IBE Reverse would cure all ills. Such a product can only help give informed and open-minded bodybuilders and users an edge in achieving their goals more effectively.
- 07-20-2008, 03:42 PM
07-20-2008, 04:40 PM
07-20-2008, 05:20 PM
I am not suggesting all supplements are superflous .You have assumed that.Diet encompasses not only food but also supplements.If the current supplement regime of an individual is adequate and provides enough support to maintain good health and training needs already , then why would you want to or need to buy this product.
You also seem to be widening the argument( Nobel prizes-vitc)
If vitamin /mineral supplements were essential to life then health food stores would be as busy as a petrol station on a motorway This is just not the case . I accept that there is a demand for such supplements from the general public but its not the majority
My answer to your point on poor absorbtion of food would be to supplement your meal with a digestive enzyme.
Whats not clear is just how long this version of B12 remains in the body compared with "conventional "B12.Why hasnt the company made all the vitamins in the B complex more bioavailable? The B vitamins are water soluble so i would suspect that after digestion , 3 hours later it will be excreted out of the body.
I go back to my original point -if you have a limited budget and your prime goal is building muscle and your perfectly satisfied with your diet and current supplement regime which has supported you in health and training , then i see no need to try this product
07-20-2008, 05:40 PM
07-20-2008, 06:41 PM
But by no means are we attempting to be deceptive. We never said this supplement is the next big muscle builder. But I will go on record saying it is one of the most potent and innovative anti-aging/health supplements I have seen around. But to each their own, I respect that, everyone has different goals .
07-20-2008, 06:49 PM
I owned a supplement store for a few years and I can tell you that I was very busy selling Health related supplements.
Most bodybuilders do care about their health and buy supplements to improve or sustain good health. I have no clue why you assume they don't.
The nutritionist I know do recommended supplements and are always researching new ones, they believe they help.
Also, the poll seems to say that at least around here, Bodybuilders are interested in this type of product.
07-20-2008, 06:52 PM
07-20-2008, 09:01 PM
I had two partners, one that didnt want to work but once a week and the other decided to fall off the wagon and started drinking like a fish, things got crazy. After awhile, the place just wasnt fun anymore, so we parted ways.
07-20-2008, 09:16 PM
Well I for one want to thank you for posting this up. I know it is related to an end commercial product but that is great as far as I'm concerned. Most people want that...
I always learn from Lake & Strategic. They don't need me to toot their whistle but they contribute a lot of knowledge to this board and people are free to digest it and incorporate it into their own base of knowledge or use it as a jumping off point for further study.
Lake I knew nothing about Glutathionylcobalamin until I read this thread. I use an injectable form BUT I have a lot of people that want to use an equivalent oral form.
I looked at the one study that demonstrated equivalency and it turns out the FDA makes them put in their study a vague statement that turns out to mean "we the FDA view this study as paid advertising".
So I thank you because this little nugget of knowledge will have real practical value in my corner of the world.
Secondly I have not yet spent the time I need to studying Resveratrol. Strategic gave us a solid look at Resveratrol and I am grateful to him for sure.
From what I gather so far from studies is that it may mimic the "calorie restriction-effect" that has been shown to extend lifespan. I never wanted to look like Roy Walford (the human who has been on calorie-restriction the longest) but I sure would like to push my lifespan out further.
So thank you for posting on Triacetylated Resveratrol. We are talking about a compound that could potentialy extend lifespan and some guy makes a derogatory post in this thread.
I just wanted Strategic & Lake to know I appreciate them and their posts and that this thread has very real value to me. Thanks guys.
07-20-2008, 09:50 PM
07-21-2008, 03:36 AM
07-21-2008, 05:19 AM
Looking at the poll its worded in such a way that its bias towards IBE REVERSE. Most of us will spend money on a supplement (s) whether it be creatine , no2 product or a vit/min supplement.To say "Definitely! This is honestly the most novel combination of ingredients available!" then give an alternative of "Not so much, I don't really care about health supplements."is too extreme. What you should be asking is would you buy this product?" then provide answers of" yes, maybe , or no." The choice of answers then would provide a better picture for you as a company on its sales potential.
07-21-2008, 09:49 AM
07-21-2008, 10:57 AM
The ingredients really are novel, and I hope after time, and some logs you will take REVERSE into consideration.
The Historic PES Legend
07-21-2008, 01:07 PM
07-21-2008, 01:12 PM
How is the anti-aging crowd responding to the added ingredients? I know you threw the new version of res at the immst guys and they werent to accepting of it (hey its new there are gonna be critics).
Fitnecise has posted a lot of not such positive info on res. He's fairly respected, have you seen his thoughts on res by chance? Personally I'm not sold on res for a few reasons but that doesnt mean I'm expelling it as a good supplement.
07-21-2008, 01:23 PM
07-21-2008, 02:22 PM
In truth, this product is better then most out there to date. If you want to slow aging, improve sex drive, drop your levels of estrogen, decrease heart disease, increase anti-oxidant levels then this product is a good choice. The anti-aging market is going to well surpass anything related to just bodybuilding.
Hell, if you developed a affiliate program, I bet you would make one hell of a profit of this. This product really puts forward some of the best choices out there with research to back it.
07-21-2008, 04:00 PM
In defense of Lake, I didn't get the feeling his post about Alzheimer's was directed at scaring us into buying IBE's new fangled B-12 rather, I read it as a positive endorsement of Glut-B12's ability to reduce free radicals and inflammation. Basically, anything that reduces inflammation in the body is a good thing and translates into health benefits IMO.
Now, if you are a BBer with Alzheimer's..then yes, run right out and buy this supplement. lol
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