I have never really responded to any creatine product. I have tried a few different brands of bulk creatine mono. I tried V12 back in the day when it first came out. I tried EAS Phosphagen Elite, not sure if that worked but I did get something out of it, maybe the. I know BA works for me and it has both in creatine mono and BA. I tried CEE when it first came out and got results for about the first week and then nothing. Pretty much given up on all creatine products since then. Once in a while I will try a new brand of bulk creatine mono since I know there are other benifits to creatine mono than stregth gains, plus it is really cheap, so why not use it anyway?. I don't get the bloat that others seem to get from CM. So I'm not really sure what I should expect out of creatine as far as gaining strength.