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    Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    Hahaha, Texas and his crew, hitting up the gym ! :bb3:

    Later
    as always myfriend. as well as genetic79. When we all roll in people get SCURREEED (scared)
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    I set a couple new deadlift personal records . .

    Here were my increments:
    315 * 10, 405 * 8, 495 * 6, 545 * 3, 585 * 1

    In bold are new new records. I've never done 545 before, nonetheless 3 times. Then I got cocky and threw 6 plates on each side. I'm uploading YouTube clips right now. Got it all recorded
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    I set a couple new deadlift personal records . .

    Here were my increments:
    315 * 10, 405 * 8, 495 * 6, 545 * 3, 585 * 1

    In bold are new new records. I've never done 545 before, nonetheless 3 times. Then I got cocky and threw 6 plates on each side. I'm uploading YouTube clips right now. Got it all recorded
    that is nuts. WOW. im quite jelous. using a barbell or hex bar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    that is nuts. WOW. im quite jelous. using a barbell or hex bar?
    Barbell .. I uploaded my third set of deads. 405 * 8: YouTube - Gym Assault III
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    wow, great lift for a tall man! Well done
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    Barbell .. I uploaded my third set of deads. 405 * 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5y1VvWC_Qg
    its not fair how you make that look no problem. GRR just wait when im 6 years older I will be getting those numbers
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    Thanks alot, fellas !

    I'm getting a thing for these powerlifting exercises now.. And the low rep scheme. I'm really 'feeling' the right muscles, and I"m growing as a result. But here's the king of all powerlifting kings, imho: YouTube - Ronnie Coleman - 2300 lbs Leg Press *Clear Quality*
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    I'm a non responder. Always have been. When do the logs needed to be started by? I'm guessing soon.....
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    yes fairly soon. within the week of ar***** at the winners house
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    Sounds good. Good luck applicants. This is just another of the long list of supplements I need to try, lol.
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    I'd love to give this one a run:

    Age: 22
    Weight: 230 lbs
    Height: 6'3.75"
    Bodyfat: 14.6 % (hahaha, I did a body-impetance body fat test at a 'physical' check-up at work this past week. Not very accurate by any means .. I'm under 10%, I think possibly in the ~8% range at the moment.

    Past Creatines: most of them; Creatine mono, CEE, Kre-alkalyn. CEE had minor effects on hardening of the muscles, but the others did nothing.

    I'd love to try out Neovar Recomped! It's insulin-mimicking effects really intrigue me, and it'd be awesome to try out some various 'carb deplete'/carb load methods to really get to see the true effects of the Neovar. I wouldn't mind adding some strength to my deadlifts, and get some muscle volumizing/hardening effects either !

    I've been able to focus on bodybuilding solely since I finished playing football my senior year. I had already been reading Flex and similar bodybuilding magazines for years, and I had gotten a solid foundation during my first three years of highs school with football and my own weight training on the side. When I was able to focus entirely on bodybuilding I realized there was so much I didn't know. I learned as I went along, and aspects of bulking and cutting became known to me. In college I got real serious, and blew up 45 lbs NATURALLY within 4 months of bulking, and later got down to 220 lbs shredded. I know my body real well by now, and I know what kind of training style it requires to grow and shape up. I've got my own style of training in a sense, mixing it up from workout to workout, nothing is ever the same. I always tweak my training with supersets, drop-sets, negatives and the likes, and it seems it keeps my body guessing enough and never adjusting, and allowing me to grow and solidify.

    Weight training 5 days per week, mixing up the order every week. Nothing stays the same. I normally do full body workouts, apart from legs, I dedicate a whole day for them. I've also got a power-movement training session every weekend, where I utilize heavy deadlifts, barbell shrugs, squats, let press, bench press, and cleans and other compound movements. I love low-reps on these, sometimes all the way down to 1. I'm currently increasing my deadlift in a rapid manner (knock on wood), and I'd love to keep this going at a consistent rate alongside of Neovar!!

    Cardio Schedule/Protocol (as much detail as possible):

    4-5 days/week, 30-50 minutes sessions

    Current supplements (exact brand/product name):

    Controlled Labs
    - Purple Wraath
    - White Flood
    - Orange TRIad
    - REDuction

    USPlabs
    - Anabolic Pump

    Optimum Nutrition
    - ON 100% Whey

    Current Diet and macros (as much detail as possible):

    4 meals per day, plus 3 shakes. Each meal averages 45 grams of protein, 30-60 grams of carbs, and 10-12 grams of fat. I vary my food between steak, chicken, tuna, cheese, eggs, egg whites, broccoli, and green beans. Don't have lots of variations, but using lots of Cholula makes most everything taste good. Each shake has 50 grams of protein in it, and in two of the shakes I sometimes add 2 spoonfulls of PB in it, adding some more healthy fats and protein, and makes it a 60 gram of protein powershake. Sometimes I endulge in three of these a day when I feel like I deserve it.


    Protein: ~350 grams (1,400 calories)
    Carbs: ~250 (from brown rice, oatmeal and PB) (1000 calories)
    Fats: 40 grams (from EVOO, Fish Oil, Steak, Sesamin) (360 calories)

    Total calories: ~2,760 calories
    Protein: ~50%
    Carbs: ~35%
    Fats: ~15 %

    Current Daily water intake:

    1.5-2 gallons

    Short Team Goal:
    - to keep cutting and getting down to 5% bodyfat. I'm currently standing @ 6'3", 228 lbs, ~8% bodyfat. 600+ lbs deadlift.

    Long Term Goal:
    - Get to and maintain 5% bodyfat, @ a bodyweight of 235-240 lbs. 650+ lbs deadlift!

    ANY and ALL Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs:
    - None

    Supplement history (as much detail as possible):
    - I'm just going to list products from the top of my head;

    Cell Tech, Nitro Tech, ON Whey, ON Serious Mass, Cytogainer, Muscle Milk, Muscle Juice, Syntha-6, ON Pro Complex, EAS Whey, 4Ever Whey, WMS, Dextrose, Nitrix, NO Explode, Superpump 250, Novedex XT, Size On, Intrabolic, IntraXCell, Jet Fuel, AMP, Venom Hyperdrive, ISA-test, RPM, Drive, Testabolan, Secretagogue, ALA, R-ala, Aspire36 , ATD, CLA, MCT Oil, Lipid FX, Epistane, 6-OXO, PEA, Leukic, Gakic, Incarnate, Leviathan Reloaded, Beta Alanine, Xtend, VasoCharge, Guggulbolic, Sesamin, Yohimbe, and many more ...

    Anyway, ready when you are .. haha. Good luck all applicants !
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    i like the ending comment. smart ass haha. Nice lifts man. keep that up
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    I almost want to neg you for wearing a popped polo while lifting lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugger1 View Post
    I almost want to neg you for wearing a popped polo while lifting lol
    congrats on gold rugger!
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    I know, man, I know. I don't know how that started.. hahaha
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    The long awaited announcement for the final winner.


    Winner Number 3
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    To the rest of you, thank you for the applications and Good Luck next time!
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    Thanks a lot, Texas, as well as AN !! I'm very much looking forward to this one ! I promise a very detailed and descriptive log !
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    Thanks a lot, Texas, as well as AN !! I'm very much looking forward to this one ! I promise a very detailed and descriptive log !
    not a problem man. You put alot of effort into that application. You seem to be knowledgeable in regards to your diet, workouts, as well as body-mind connection. I look forward to your log and hope Neovar Recomped is your turn around creatine product. I judge by the length of that application that you will offer a nice detailed log as well.
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    Congrats man, you have yourself a nice creatine to try out!
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    Texas, AN, I've regrettably got to pull my application.

    This Thursday, I will be taking off on yet another Colorado road-trip. I'll be back @ the end of the month.

    As a band-aid on the whole situation, I promise you guys - Texas & AN - that I will log my two Neovar 1.0 (original) bottles that I've currently got on hand sometime in September. I'd love to give the Recomped a go at some point in time, but at the moment, I will be unable to do so.

    May the best runner-up have an awesome Neovar 2.0 experience !
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    Congrats to the winners. Neover 2.0 is NO JOKE!! Great pumps while keeping you lean and vascular. I will be tossing some in my next bulk to help with the carb intake.
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    If you folks at AN are still looking for Neovar Recomped loggers I would love to participate.
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    throwin apps if you wish i will etend the contest till wednesday guys!
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    cool, well I too have been a non responder to the last couple of creatines I have tried, particularly CEE which I am 90% sure was rat poison. Anyways Neovar Recomped is getting alot of praise and I would love to give it a go for a full cycle. About me:
    I am 21 yrs old
    5'11, around 170 lbs
    training about every other day switching between weights, boxing, as well as bike riding so stamina, power, and endurance are really important to maintain for me, which is why I need a solid creatine product.

    I have been on a lower carb diet, low/no sugar and high vegetables and lean clean meat for quite a bit and plan on maintaining that constant.

    Supplements i've been taking consistently the past few months include multi vitamins, packs, fish oil, protein, and joint support and I plan to continue with those but will be adding in animal paks and maybe a new joint support.

    anyways, if a spot opens up to be a tester/logger, I would love to be a part of it, if not that is cool and I will most likely pick up your products in my next order to come.

    thx
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    i think im going to put up a more detailed app tonight. im gunnin for the win on this one haha
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    good good. i like detail
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    Quote Originally Posted by eneyman View Post
    If you folks at AN are still looking for Neovar Recomped loggers I would love to participate.
    Reps for the sweet Avatar. Green Man!
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    i tried just about every fancy creatine product put there and they all seem to disappoint me =( the only thing i seen a gain in was my water bill with all the times i have to freakin flush my toilet ! jk jk .. they just dont work i feel like i just pee all the water i drink and i mean the whole gallon and a half ! its like my body is just rejecting the stuff..no joke i get up at least twice to pee at night when i take any type of creatine ! .. i am currently trying to run my 2nd tub of sizeOn and i am def willing to put that to an end for this !

    as far as training goes .. i train with my cuzzin who is an amateur bodybuilder working to get his pro card as we speak .. he pushes me 100000 % and comes at me with some of the best routines on the planet and believe me my form is
    impeccable !

    diet wise i eat very very clean ! this is what i am running right now

    a shake with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter with 2 cups of oatmeal
    3 fish oil caps
    Multi vitamin


    a grilled chicken breast, brown rice and broccolli
    3 fish oil caps



    3 grams beta alanine
    steak with bowl of pasta
    3 fish oil caps


    3 RPM TABS 1HR B4 GYM AND KWICK KARB

    gym time !

    post workout a shake with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter with 2 cups of oatmeal
    KWICK KARB
    3 fish oil caps

    Steak with spinach salad
    3 fish oil


    and i still don't ever see any results from creatine and it sucks because all my friends do and i feel really left out =(

    and log wise i can update every day on how i am training, what i am eating ,before and after pictures are a MUST ! ..



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    Age:18

    Sex:male

    Height:5'7"

    Weight:148

    Training experience (as much detail as possible): been working out 8 months now .. around 3 with my cousin who is my trainer (he is an amateur bodybuilder !) i don't know what more to say except that i train with awesome routines probably better or just as good as any1 else's on here and diet right everyday .. since i am bulkng 1 day a week i will have my Macdonald's Big Mac and some chicken nuggets but NO French fries ...

    Current Training Schedule / Protocol (as much detail as possible):
    Monday : Chest and Bi's
    Tuesday : Legs and 20 min cardio
    Wednesday : OFF day .. never can stay out of the gym so i go and do 10 min cardio and light abs
    Thrusday : Back
    Friday : shoulders and tri 's
    Saturday: Traps,heavy abs and 15 min cardio


    Past Creatine Supplements
    : SizeOn, Creatine Monohydrate,CellMass, and CE2

    Current Daily water intake
    :1.5 gallons

    Short Term Goal:i am currently bulking .. trying to pack on the size ! i would be real happy if i can gain 5-8 pounds off a bottle of this stuff ...

    Long Term Goal:
    i would really like to be 175 pounds of LEAN MUSCLE ! at the height of 5'7"

    I ALSO TAKE RPM PRE WORKOUT WOULD THAT BE OKAY TO TAKE IF I DO WIN ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEGEEZ View Post
    i tried just about every fancy creatine product put there and they all seem to disappoint me =( the only thing i seen a gain in was my water bill with all the times i have to freakin flush my toilet ! jk jk .. they just dont work i feel like i just pee all the water i drink and i mean the whole gallon and a half ! its like my body is just rejecting the stuff..no joke i get up at least twice to pee at night when i take any type of creatine ! .. i am currently trying to run my 2nd tub of sizeOn and i am def willing to put that to an end for this !

    as far as training goes .. i train with my cuzzin who is an amateur bodybuilder working to get his pro card as we speak .. he pushes me 100000 % and comes at me with some of the best routines on the planet and believe me my form is
    impeccable !

    diet wise i eat very very clean ! this is what i am running right now

    a shake with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter with 2 cups of oatmeal
    3 fish oil caps
    Multi vitamin


    a grilled chicken breast, brown rice and broccolli
    3 fish oil caps



    3 grams beta alanine
    steak with bowl of pasta
    3 fish oil caps


    3 RPM TABS 1HR B4 GYM AND KWICK KARB

    gym time !

    post workout a shake with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter with 2 cups of oatmeal
    KWICK KARB
    3 fish oil caps

    Steak with spinach salad
    3 fish oil


    and i still don't ever see any results from creatine and it sucks because all my friends do and i feel really left out =(

    and log wise i can update every day on how i am training, what i am eating ,before and after pictures are a MUST ! ..



    EDIT: ADDING ON !

    Age:18

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    Height:5'7"

    Weight:148

    Training experience (as much detail as possible): been working out 8 months now .. around 3 with my cousin who is my trainer (he is an amateur bodybuilder !) i don't know what more to say except that i train with awesome routines probably better or just as good as any1 else's on here and diet right everyday .. since i am bulkng 1 day a week i will have my Macdonald's Big Mac and some chicken nuggets but NO French fries ...

    Current Training Schedule / Protocol (as much detail as possible):
    Monday : Chest and Bi's
    Tuesday : Legs and 20 min cardio
    Wednesday : OFF day .. never can stay out of the gym so i go and do 10 min cardio and light abs
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    I ALSO TAKE RPM PRE WORKOUT WOULD THAT BE OKAY TO TAKE IF I DO WIN ?
    dude your not getting near enough protein in you or carbs. what macro split are you running?
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    i am running around 2700 cals a day with a 40-40-20 macro .. 40 % protein, 40 % carbs, and 20 % fat ..

    i wish i could intake more i just feel sick and i will throw up and **** everywhere ..

    can u give me any advice tex on what else i should do ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEGEEZ View Post
    i am running around 2700 cals a day with a 40-40-20 macro .. 40 % protein, 40 % carbs, and 20 % fat ..

    i wish i could intake more i just feel sick and i will throw up and **** everywhere ..

    can u give me any advice tex on what else i should do ?
    so your protein intake is at what G per day? like 270? I still dont think you are gettin that though. 1 chicken breast and some PB isnt gonna give you 270G.
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    age: 20

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    current goal: cut some fat, slowly gain lean mass

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    i can provide pics, stats, and detailed workout and diet logs. if picked ill probably use drive/rpm and ap with it. have experience with all 3. can do any timeframe for product (ie 4 weeks, 6 weeks 8 weeks) and can purchase more than given to run longer. did that with adrenalean and EXTREMELY happy i did.

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    a shake with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter with 2 cups of oatmeal
    id say between the powder,milk,and PB ---> 55g

    a grilled chicken breast 6oz --> 30g

    steak(4oz london broil ) --> 36g with bowl of pasta (2oz)---> 8g

    post workout a shake with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter with 2 cups of oatmeal--->55g

    Steak(4oz london broil ) --> 36 just from the steak ..with spinach ---> 11g salad


    55 + 30 + 36 + 8 + 55+ 36 + 11 = 231 grams .. i mean i wish i can intake more but i do stick to this everyday sometimes at night if i dont want to have the salad i have another shake but i do get 231 grams..

    i do weight 148 which if i was having 2 grams of protein per pound i would have 296 .. and i am only getting 231 so i mean yeh i can probably incorporate some more protein in my diet but i don't know what else to have or when else to have it i am pretty much filled after everything i am eating now i dont know if i can eat anything else ...

    any suggestions ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEGEEZ View Post
    a shake with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter with 2 cups of oatmeal
    id say between the powder,milk,and PB ---> 55g

    a grilled chicken breast 6oz --> 30g

    steak(4oz london broil ) --> 36g with bowl of pasta (2oz)---> 8g

    post workout a shake with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter with 2 cups of oatmeal--->55g

    Steak(4oz london broil ) --> 36 just from the steak ..with spinach ---> 11g salad


    55 + 30 + 36 + 8 + 55+ 36 + 11 = 231 grams .. i mean i wish i can intake more but i do stick to this everyday sometimes at night if i dont want to have the salad i have another shake but i do get 231 grams..

    i do weight 148 which if i was having 2 grams of protein per pound i would have 296 .. and i am only getting 231 so i mean yeh i can probably incorporate some more protein in my diet but i don't know what else to have or when else to have it i am pretty much filled after everything i am eating now i dont know if i can eat anything else ...

    any suggestions ?
    throw some eggs into the shake or breakfast. I eat 3-5 every morning and sometimes save the yokes for lunch time
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    just throw it in raw crack the egg and throw it in or just eat sum eggs l0l ???
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    well unless you want salmonella, dont just put it in your shake. unless youre buying whites from the store, or lanas egg whites where they are treated, cook your eggs.

    if you want some last minute protein before bed, take down some cottage cheese. or grab a tub of casein or milk protein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEGEEZ View Post
    just throw it in raw crack the egg and throw it in or just eat sum eggs l0l ???
    i do and have yet to get any haha. but ya cottage cheese is what i eat before bed. much cheaper than buying casein. and its also slow digestion rate which helps prevent catabolism during sleep
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    haha touche. i know so many guys who put like 3 or 4 whites in their orange juice or use for their whey, and none have gotten any type of food poisoning. then a buddy of mine said his sisters friend got it and had like 2 weeks of vomitting, hershey squirts, headaches, and minor brain damage. and it was from undercooked eggs. now i dont dare undercook eggs or chicken.

    mmmm eggs and chicken. dinner time.
  

  
 

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