- 05-09-2008, 11:20 AM
yeah, that's pretty much what I meant by PCT. I've been wanting to stack up on some of these supps. before the ban, I just got screwed over hugely by my source. we been goin @ it for 10 years and then bam....Vanished into thin air. I was out 420.00 bucks. Great guy, I just think something got him. So I've been taking it close with using supps an no SERM. MY PCT last time was more costly$ than ever before, trying to make up for not using a real SERM. Didnt' need it though, but now my options are getting limited.
- 05-09-2008, 12:03 PM
05-09-2008, 01:42 PM
I've always used clomid with not many sides. Slight emotional sides and some bloat, but no gyno and full testosterone runnin like crazy.
05-09-2008, 10:48 PM
05-09-2008, 11:45 PM
Man... FINIGENX MAGNUM was part of my most successful strength cycle. I went with a 5-weeker, front loading the Fini(liquid version) and then bringing in 20g Phera-Plex ED at weeks 3,4, and 5. Strength gains just KEPT ON COMIN'. Would absolutely like to hit that up again using T-Roid. Judging by a few reviews, T-Roid appears to kick in quick... Finigenx definintly did not for me. But when it did... wow.
As a side question, how are the lipids on this compound? Should I expect anything? On Finigenx I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary with BP, but at the time I was not doing cardio. I'm plotting an H-Drol/T-Roid cycle, of 4 weeks, but I'm a bit concerned about doing cardio consistantly(4-5 days a week, 1, or rarely two of those as 2 HIIT sessions). Have actually never done cardio on cycle! Will be a first, heh.
05-15-2008, 01:56 AM
05-17-2008, 11:20 PM
05-22-2008, 03:11 PM
Also, I have a question, I realize that this product, being 19-Nor obviously doesn't convert to test, so wouldn't it be almost necessary to run it with some sort of test booster/PH such as 1AD/ 4AD to keep from being shutdown, or is that just with Nandrolone or Deca precursors. I know that most nan or deca users tend to run test along with their product for this reason. Is this dienolone precursor less harsh on the test levels or something? j/w because 19-Nor has always intrigued me. I know that you don't get as much out of it, but who can argue with low side-effects! T-Roid definitely seems like a great product and i hope i see some upcoming logs of it soon... (especially that T-Roid-Furazadrol log)
06-05-2008, 12:29 AM
In regards to the "too much pct" comment, ANYTHING taken in too high a dose/too long can produce a negative feedback loop... I have been a victim of over-doing the pct before, and it wasn't pretty... it can actually suppress your natural test levels for even longer if you are not careful. Don't know if this is out of context... just thought I'd throw it in.
06-11-2008, 12:18 AM
06-17-2008, 11:40 AM
06-20-2008, 04:57 AM
06-23-2008, 09:52 AM
I am about to finish my first 8 wk cycle of 19 nor and must say I am very impressed. I am more of a weight lifter thene a bodybuilder and am in the military so functonal strength is more important for me thene looking pretty. In 8 weeks I have gone from 222 to 232. My max bench has gone from 265 to 315. My working sets stay above 225 now instead of being between 185 and 205. I dont know how much of this I will keep but I am used to working hard and enjoy my time in the gym so it doesnt really matter to me im just having a good time. I used 90 mg a day taken with my protein shakes. Ganes were steady and took a few weeks to kickstart but everything steadily improved when they kicked in. I am sad to see this product go.
06-23-2008, 04:50 PM
06-24-2008, 12:20 AM
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06-24-2008, 06:15 PM
06-24-2008, 09:20 PM
06-25-2008, 12:36 AM
im gonna pick up the spiro. I still have some nizoral.
So even with these support supps I will most likely shed regardless right?
05-01-2009, 06:03 PM
Its so amazing how many people are using these BS PH's/AAS, its unreal, the entire point of fitness is being completely lost by insecure **ucks who can't go through with an honest routine and dedicate a lifetime to fitness instead they get wrapped up in this underworld of PCT and Cycles and stacks blah blah blah, ultimately these guys are the lamest dudes out there and completely give the meaning "going to the gym" a horrible rep. The only ones your impressing is OTHER INSECURE DUDES, Im a 181 6 foot with a 7 year martial arts, and 3 year all natural fitness background, ive never for once felt I needed to sacrifice my endorphin release I get from honest and natural balls to the wall training to get the acclaim of OTHER DUDES at the gym or while Im out. Instead< with having a clear and free mind not cloudy by ridiculous mind altering supps, I date the most beautiful successful women in NYC (not the typical dumb hot chicks that are a dime a dozen these days) have a group of friends of friends that are real dudes and we get along with everybody, without a stick up our a** like those funny guido"how ya doin" guys or whoever. MY point is: Keep it naural with quality protein, creatine, glutamine, ZMA, bcaa's, AAKG,a good multi V and REAL FOOD! Its so funny...its become the understanding that "oh if that guys bigger than you dont mess with him" forget about that! Chances are if you have any idea about martial arts, boxing, combat training those supp heads dont have a chance its so funny. Have fun wasting your $$$ on these companies that dont give a rats a** about you, only your wallet.. No sides is the newest claim, ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? HAHA All these PH's have sides!!!!! Anyway go on with the chlorophyl! Have fun guys!
05-01-2009, 06:09 PM
oh piss of you self righteous prick, if people wanna take these prohormones then we will, there fun it helps generally to use them and if we want to we will, if you dont like it then no one really cares, if you have this much of an issue that you cant shut up about it do us all a favour and piss off back where you came from.
edit: also 181 at 6 foot, yes you obviously know how to get huge! LMAO
05-01-2009, 08:27 PM
never trying to get huge ever, in the long run my muscles will grown over my lifetime while adapting to the loads I place on them, once again over time. I do not do "bodybuilding workouts", and only use actual weights twice a week with the bulk of my fitness coming from swimming, rockclimbing and boxing plus based on stats it is very difficult to determine ones actual physique. But Look how pissed you got, its so funny and typical haha. I was merely trying to pursuade maybe that 17-19 yr old reading ths thinking he needs to start taking Tren or Methyl this or that to get "huge" Im sorry if anyone took offense to my last post. But what do PH help? Build muscle? and what are the numerous other things it doesnt help??? So with a scale so skewed in one direction why bother? Your entitled to your opinion but, at the end of the day my body feels clean, head is clear and Im all smiles. And I do feel self righteous beacuse I dont take shortcuts when it comes to my health and life. And am encouraging other to do the sam, Thanks!
And just trying to spread the word about clean living and fitness guys, dont hate participate.
05-01-2009, 08:41 PM
05-01-2009, 09:02 PM
05-02-2009, 09:29 PM
05-02-2009, 09:43 PM
05-03-2009, 03:14 AM
You're entitled to your opinion by all means.......
But as brand new member who is throwing a lot of negative talk, why don't you just use the board to gain knowledge and ask questions where you see fit? I may be wrong, but I don't think newbies joining, talking smack, never contributing anything, and never having anything positive to say have any value?
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