I ran White Flood andthis past summer along with some staples(multi-vit, protein powder, ) and a solid diet, and can say that it was a very good decision. I purchased these two products because of all the good reviews i had read and because of their economical price, but soon discovered for myself the other reasons for all the excitement. My workouts were amazing. I remember the feeling I would get driving to the gym every day 10 minutes after taking WF; the tingles from the BA and the focus from WF got me soo amped...just chilling to think about it now haha. The pumps, that were not only during my workout, would follow me on my chill sessions on the beach later that day; the girls didnt know what to think.haha. My strength went up and stayed with me as wrestling season began later in the year. WF did put me on the toilet about 15 minutes after consumption, but ended when i started taking acidophalis with my WF dose. I started the summer at about 175 lbs @ 7-8% body fat and and ended the summer at 183 lbs with no fat gain. 8 pounds of muscle gained in 2.5-3 months. The WF/GM stack lasted me about 2.5 months or so. I usually gain about 10 pounds a YEAR, so gaining this much muscle in 2.5-3 months was a treat! My goal for the summer was to gain muscle while keeping my body fat % the same or less so I could be in good shape for the upcoming season of wrestling...and i did just that with the help of these products. Im about to start supplementing some of CL's other products like GG and PW along with GM, cant wait. I feel CL's products offer the best blends for the best price with no BS. #1 in my book.