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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Duality29 View Post
    Libido and mood isn't like what it was pre-cycle, unfortunately. My bloodwork with test levels say differently, that everything should be fine, but I feel more tired and exhausted that I was before the cycle. I'm not exact sure what it is.
    Thatís very odd. Did the doc have any input as to reason/cause?
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Duality29 View Post
    Libido and mood isn't like what it was pre-cycle, unfortunately. My bloodwork with test levels say differently, that everything should be fine, but I feel more tired and exhausted that I was before the cycle. I'm not exact sure what it is.
    Personally ran quite A few cycles in my day and used OTC for post and never had this issue. Not saying what I did was the best way, just how I ran mine.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by cheftepesh1 View Post
    Personally ran quite A few cycles in my day and used OTC for post and never had this issue. Not saying what I did was the best way, just how I ran mine.
    I am in the same boat as well. Always OTC without issue. I would definitely check again with the doc.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by EricMarchewitz View Post
    The biggest benefit is the libido effects. I shouldn't be on it as I don't have a girlfriend right now. lol
    libido is what I'm looking for, can't be too high, imo!!!
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  6. I ran this back in the day stacked with the mind and muscle pre workout and t2 I believe.... While the pwo wasn't the best, I really did enjoy the Rise and Swell. Definitely gives a nice little spike in libido.
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  8. Just double checked with my doctor this morning, he said everything looks to be fine with no issues. I guess all these feelings could be just in my head, since I've been very stressed with work and my wife lately.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Duality29 View Post
    Just double checked with my doctor this morning, he said everything looks to be fine with no issues. I guess all these feelings could be just in my head, since I've been very stressed with work and my wife lately.
    stress will definitely lend to the issue for sure. Sometimes, we are our own worst enemies. We allow ourselves to rent space in our own heads.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Duality29 View Post
    Just double checked with my doctor this morning, he said everything looks to be fine with no issues. I guess all these feelings could be just in my head, since I've been very stressed with work and my wife lately.
    My wife stresses so much about work and things that her hair will sometimes fall out. We bought lavender oil and it helps a lot. I use it too because it feels and smells awesome, but I'm not really much of a stresser. Lol.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Martyfnemec View Post
    My wife stresses so much about work and things that her hair will sometimes fall out. We bought lavender oil and it helps a lot. I use it too because it feels and smells awesome, but I'm not really much of a stresser. Lol.
    lavender has been known to increase estrogen in males...just sayin.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lavender has been known to increase estrogen in males...just sayin.
    I'll look into it. Thanks for the information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lavender has been known to increase estrogen in males...just sayin.
    Was that with oral use? Use as a massage oil and/or aromatherapy may be different, and a happy wife with some oil can be good for testosterone too haha.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Was that with oral use? Use as a massage oil and/or aromatherapy may be different, and a happy wife with some oil can be good for testosterone too haha.
    My wife uses it for aroma and massage. I would use it for aromatherapy and would put it on my hands to rub on her. I have no interest in smelling like lavender or bergamot.
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  15. Lavender is supposed to increase estrogens. I stay away from it and keep it away from my son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martyfnemec View Post
    My wife uses it for aroma and massage. I would use it for aromatherapy and would put it on my hands to rub on her. I have no interest in smelling like lavender or bergamot.
    Ok. I honestly wouldn't worry about estrogen in that context. I would recommend diluting the oil when using it for massages if it isn't already though. It'll last longer and it's not the best idea to apply most essential oils directly to the skin undiluted.

    Edit: if anyone is still concerned with using lavender as aromatherapy due to potential estrogen issues, ylang ylang and clary sage are two other options that should be calming/relaxing.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Ok. I honestly wouldn't worry about estrogen in that context. I would recommend diluting the oil when using it for massages if it isn't already though. It'll last longer and it's not the best idea to apply most essential oils directly to the skin undiluted.
    We dillute it. Tonight after eating dinner, I am going to have to go on a research quest apparently. I learn something new everyday. Maybe I will have to buy a pack of disposable gloves.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Martyfnemec View Post
    We dillute it. Tonight after eating dinner, I am going to have to go on a research quest apparently. I learn something new everyday. Maybe I will have to buy a pack of disposable gloves.
    Ok, I know a girl who had a bad habit of applying a ton of undiluted oils on her skin, and on other people's skin. Unsurprisingly, some people said it burned. Plus it doesn't last nearly as long undiluted.

    Research does seem to suggest that expose to it isn't good for boys. Granted, I think it was a few case reports, but it'd probably be better to err on the side of caution here, especially if you have kids. There are other oils that don't seem to carry this same potential issue.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Ok, I know a girl who had a bad habit of applying a ton of undiluted oils on her skin, and on other people's skin. Unsurprisingly, some people said it burned. Plus it doesn't last nearly as long undiluted.

    Research does seem to suggest that expose to it isn't good for boys. Granted, I think it was a few case reports, but it'd probably be better to err on the side of caution here, especially if you have kids. There are other oils that don't seem to carry this same potential issue.
    I agree with you. I'm not losing gainz of any amount for a flower...
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Martyfnemec View Post
    I agree with you. I'm not losing gainz of any amount for a flower...
    Especially when there are other equally viable options for what it sounds like you'd be using it for. I actually quite enjoy aromatherapy haha.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by cheftepesh1 View Post
    Hell yes send info
    Got my bottle in the mail yesterday!!!!!

    I will be starting my log/bottle this coming MONDAY!!!!!!!
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lavender has been known to increase estrogen in males...just sayin.
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  24. Any news on the loggers yet?
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Eric Mar View Post
    Any news on the loggers yet?
    Logs are already in motion
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