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  1. Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    It should be great for a bulk but contest prep it more then likly is not the compound you want and if you do go with it make sure you pick up some strong liver care products with TUDCA in it.
    From firsthand experience with Msten (NOT contest prep) I can say that your diet/routine REALLY influences results on Msten, just like Sdrol. I got so vascular it was insane on Methylsten, & dropped a good % of bodyfat without even trying. Zero bloat as it doesn't aromatize, & muscles were round-the-clock pumped with glycogen. Awesome stuff. I got leaner, fuller, more vascular & added several lbs of lbm simultaneously.

    There are certainly many proven prep compounds you would have a safer bet with, but if your carbs are in check & cals are under maint you could definitely use it pre-contest to look crazy full & vascular. Not gonna get the thinner skin/hardening of say Epistane, but Msten could work IMO.

    And you are SO right with the TUDCA; at 1g/day of Tudca on 24mg of Msten I was still peeing light orange (lots of Talos & tons of water too obv). It demands good liver support. 750mg e/d is the research-backed sweet spot for Tudca btw. 1g was diminishing returns.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    From firsthand experience with Msten (NOT contest prep) I can say that your diet/routine REALLY influences results on Msten, just like Sdrol. I got so vascular it was insane on Methylsten, & dropped a good % of bodyfat without even trying. Zero bloat as it doesn't aromatize, & muscles were round-the-clock pumped with glycogen. Awesome stuff. I got leaner, fuller, more vascular & added several lbs of lbm simultaneously.

    There are certainly many proven prep compounds you would have a safer bet with, but if your carbs are in check & cals are under maint you could definitely use it pre-contest to look crazy full & vascular. Not gonna get the thinner skin/hardening of say Epistane, but Msten could work IMO.

    And you are SO right with the TUDCA; at 1g/day of Tudca on 24mg of Msten I was still peeing light orange (lots of Talos & tons of water too obv). It demands good liver support. 750mg e/d is the research-backed sweet spot for Tudca btw. 1g was diminishing returns.
    The possibility of bloat is not from conversion to estrogen with this compound its that it inhibits "11-beta hydroxylase and builds up mineralcorticoids that should increase water and sodium". Diet as Hyde pointed out is key in a cut or bulk but with contest prep the issue of water comes up so watch your salt intake if you try to use this in contest prep.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post

    That's right!!! And neither does tyga wait till u see his log.. It will be epic as always, and anyone who wants to learn you need to follow..
    Thanks caz
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    The possibility of bloat is not from conversion to estrogen with this compound its that it inhibits "11-beta hydroxylase and builds up mineralcorticoids that should increase water and sodium". Diet as Hyde pointed out is key in a cut or bulk but with contest prep the issue of water comes up so watch your salt intake if you try to use this in contest prep.

    Per Anabolic Pharmacology
    Seth Roberts
    This was also definitely true, for me anyway. Back pumps I could control, but if my sodium intake was higher cramps were almost inevitable, even on tons of electrolytes, 4 servings of 5g taurine daily, & lots of water. Msten cranked my bp thru the roof anyway; if I run it again I'll be watching my sodium on cycle.
  5. Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.
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  6. One more guys lets close this promo out!!

  7. Ill take the ultra!!! Ima put an app later today!
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Ill take the ultra!!! Ima put an app later today!
    Get it in!!

  9. It's a pain in the a(ss) to do it on a Mobil that's why lol.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    It's a pain in the a(ss) to do it on a Mobil that's why lol.
    I guess I'll have to take yours then.. Lol. Hey everyone logging but me the boss has me too busy..

  11. Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post

    I guess I'll have to take yours then.. Lol. Hey everyone logging but me the boss has me too busy..
    Lol not nice.
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  12. Be curious to see what PCT people will be running. Education is power!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Be curious to see what PCT people will be running. Education is power!
    For stenzine im goin..
    Torem 60/60/60/60
    Clomid 25/25/25/25
    PNI Paragon 0/2/2/2/2
    IGF lr3 100/100/100/100

    Dermacrine on cycle
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Be curious to see what PCT people will be running. Education is power!
    I'll be going:

    Clomid
    50/50/50/50
    DAA (probably dpol)
    3/3/3/3/3/3
    Erase
    3/2/2/1/1/1

    And maybe throw in some random stuff I want to try at the time. I'm curious about X-Gels during PCT... Or low dose SARMS. So many options...

  15. Apparently, even low-dosed SARMs may aggravate gyno to some degree....& as they are definitely mildly suppressive they might make recovery in PCT a bit tougher. They sound like they're better for on cycle or outside of PCT.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    For stenzine im goin..
    Torem 60/60/60/60
    Clomid 25/25/25/25
    PNI Paragon 0/2/2/2/2
    IGF lr3 100/100/100/100

    Dermacrine on cycle
    How do u plan on running the stenzine?
    I was thinking of 1/2/2/3 .

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy_603 View Post

    How do u plan on running the stenzine?
    I was thinking of 1/2/2/3 .
    Im running it 20mg through the whole cycle.
    Psalms 62:1-62:2

  18. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    Im running it 20mg through the whole cycle.
    I was thinking that. Still debating on how I'll dose mine.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy_603 View Post

    I was thinking that. Still debating on how I'll dose mine.
    The synergy between the two will phenominal i believe. Similar to the OG bottles of super dmz, but drier...
    Psalms 62:1-62:2

  20. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    The synergy between the two will phenominal i believe. Similar to the OG bottles of super dmz, but drier...
    Never tried sdmz but have ran msten solo . It will be a fun ride . I will definetly be following ur log bro.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy_603 View Post
    I was thinking that. Still debating on how I'll dose mine.
    Not that you might not see gains from just 10mg each in the first week, but that'd only be one cap/day....the half life is gonna leave you running on your quickly diminishing natty test by evening. Body's natural rhythm is highest T in the morning so if you dosed first thing & could lift in the morning you could prob get away with it for a week. But if you're like me & lift in the evening after a dayjob it wouldn't be worth it. You need that pill close to preworkout, and taking only one in the evening might leave you weaksauce in the mornings.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Apparently, even low-dosed SARMs may aggravate gyno to some degree....& as they are definitely mildly suppressive they might make recovery in PCT a bit tougher. They sound like they're better for on cycle or outside of PCT.
    Yeah, it does seems that that's the case. I'd have to read through a lot more logs of people running them through PCT and it going smoothly before I ever tried it lol. PCT is something I let other people do trial and error on.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post

    Not that you might not see gains from just 10mg each in the first week, but that'd only be one cap/day....the half life is gonna leave you running on your quickly diminishing natty test by evening. Body's natural rhythm is highest T in the morning so if you dosed first thing & could lift in the morning you could prob get away with it for a week. But if you're like me & lift in the evening after a dayjob it wouldn't be worth it. You need that pill close to preworkout, and taking only one in the evening might leave you weaksauce in the mornings.
    I lift first thing so I could get away with it. I'll just run it 2 a day. I would rather keep the greatness flowing though my body lol . Wife just told me the stenzine just came in earlier today. Nice.. I'll start it on Monday .

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy_603 View Post

    I lift first thing so I could get away with it. I'll just run it 2 a day. I would rather keep the greatness flowing though my body lol . Wife just told me the stenzine just came in earlier today. Nice.. I'll start it on Monday .
    Startin mine monday as well. This is going to be great bro!
    Psalms 62:1-62:2

  25. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    Startin mine monday as well. This is going to be great bro!
    Yes it will ..

  26. Not actually starting it yet, but here's the link:

    Tren-Stane Ironflex Sponsored Log

  27. Just out of curiosity how long is shipping?

  28. All have shipped out. HaloX was the only ones that was late due to fulfillment. HaloX were sent today. If you PM me, I'll provide you tracking.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by IronFlex View Post
    All have shipped out. HaloX was the only ones that was late due to fulfillment. HaloX were sent today. If you PM me, I'll provide you tracking.
    Alright sounds good thank you kind sir!

  30. Ima put my log up later today
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