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- 02-17-2013, 01:24 PM
- 02-17-2013, 02:36 PM
Random question. So I am doing leangains protocol, with a feeding period 12-8 or 2-8. This is about the 4th week or so.
I am freezing. I mean I am cold almost all of the time. I know my resting heart rate is low, but that shold not cause this.
This is definitely something that has started in the last couple of weeks.
I eat 2187 calories a day- 35/35/30- Pro/Carb/fat
Workout 6 days a week. Lots of water intake.
Anybody with any backround or knowledge as to why I am cold?
02-17-2013, 02:56 PM
You could also need slightly higher cals... But I'm pretty sure it's from the first thing I said
I'm on hour 32 of a 36 hour fast at the moment just felt like it was necessary, was having water retention issues and low energy... Nothing like a 36 hour fast to fix that up right quick! Going to shoot some hoops then it's chow time!
02-17-2013, 03:15 PM
Training is initiated on an empty stomach and after ingestion of 10 g BCAA or similar amino acid mixture. This "pre-workout" meal is not counted towards the feeding phase. Technically, training is not completely fasted - that would be detrimental. The pre-workout protein intake, with its stimulatory effect on protein synthesis and metabolism, is a crucial compromise to optimize results. The 8-hour feeding phase starts with the post-workout meal.
11.30-12 AM or 5-15 minutes pre-workout: 10 g BCAA
12-1 PM: Training
1 PM: Post-workout meal (largest meal of the day).
4 PM: Second meal.
9 PM: Last meal before the fast.
Calories and carbs are tapered down throughout the day in the example above.
Early morning fasted training
Here's a sample setup for a client that trains early in the morning and prefers the feeding phase at noon or later. Read this for details regarding this protocol.
6 AM: 5-15 minutes pre-workout: 10 g BCAA.
6-7 AM: Training.
8 AM: 10 g BCAA.
10 AM: 10 g BCAA
12-1 PM: The "real" post-workout meal (largest meal of the day). Start of the 8 hour feeding-window.
8-9 PM: Last meal before the fast.
For the sake of conveniency, I recommend getting BCAA in the form of powder and not tabs. Simply mix 30 g of BCAA powder in a shake and drink one third of it every other hour starting 5-15 minutes pre-workout. Tabs are cheaper, but much more of a hassle (you're going to have to pop a lot of tabs). Check my supplements guide for specific brand recommendations.
I will stop commenting because i keep getting negged by users on this thread for my input regarding the subject...
02-17-2013, 03:18 PM
Try searching on Martin's website regarding it.. this is something i did notice as well.. but then again anyone who does diet or lowers calories will get colder from long term dieting. Think about individuals in contest prep or those dieting who get towards the lower ends of their cutting periods and will be cold. Could be a hormonal thing...
Check this one. or search for hormones on his leangains page.
Intermittent Fasting, Set-Point and Leptin | Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health
02-17-2013, 03:26 PM
02-17-2013, 03:32 PM
I would also make sure you are doing refeeds or cheat meals.. these will help a ton with hormones, leptin, t3 levels and help with continual fatloss as well
Lyle mcDonald has great articles on his website bodyrecomposition. and some good information can be found off layne norton articles on refeeding and its importance.
02-17-2013, 03:33 PM
02-17-2013, 03:40 PM
I've been on that site, and just received a copy of his "The Ketogenic Diet" yesterday. I am plowing through it as much as I can. The wife is almost ready to give birth, so I have a chore list a mile long. I told her I have to read this for my training and conditioning class that I am taking at AMU.
02-17-2013, 06:30 PM
02-18-2013, 08:23 AM
these will help a ton with hormones, leptin, t3 levels and help with continual fatloss as well
When you diet these all drop and to keep them from dropping too low can have a bigger negative than positive. When metabolism slows this is when stalls happen, same with when your hormones, t3, and leptin levels drop it can cause stalling to happen in your weightloss.
02-18-2013, 11:13 AM
I do every week, maybe every 10days.
Try and keep liquids low on your carb up days to help with bloat. Sometimes, mentally, after carb ups the bloat can de discouraging but don't let it be.
I look like compete sh!t before & right after carb ups. I don't control liquids very well as I am sometimes a complete savage :-D
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02-18-2013, 11:56 AM
02-18-2013, 04:04 PM
Well can u refeed on a bulk? Lol I've really actually plateaued in my bulk.. I was recoumping quite nicely then started seeing some fat gain n stopped increasing lbm. Now I am maintaining.. Not sure what the next dietary move should be
02-18-2013, 04:58 PM
- Change in routine
- Change in Cardio
- Change in diet my guess is because you saw the scale rise you dropped kcals and that is going to harm progress with adding/size strength.
Can you refeed on a bulk? Sure.. you could do higher carbs on a leg day or a lagging bodypart day or implement a cheat meal as a form of a refeed, both would work and be a way. But once you are already hitting pretty consistent kcals and in a surplus the benefits of a refeed while bulking would not be anywhere near what they would illict on a deficit due to the swings in hormones, t3, leptin, to aid in your fatloss when in a caloric deficit over a time to help keep the metabolism churning.
02-18-2013, 05:20 PM
02-18-2013, 09:31 PM
if you did stall and the only thing you did do was increase cardio a touch, what does the mirror show? The scale is your worst tool to use during a prep or a cut, the mirror is always your best indication. Some weeks you may never lose a pound or an oz, but look leaner/tighter showing you something is going on, then all of a sudden a week later you may see a 1-2 pound drop aka a WOOSH which lyle talks about on his website (bodyrecompostion) in his fatloss articles.
02-18-2013, 09:48 PM
02-18-2013, 09:52 PM
02-18-2013, 09:58 PM
The only time I do liss is when I'm warming up for lifts on non HIIT days... And no more than 5-10 mins
02-19-2013, 02:56 AM
Aloha, I've been on versa-1 about a week notice a little more energy in the gym, but no real streath gains.
this week on versa-1, Agmatine, & oxy elite.
went from 30.2% BF to 29.8%. thats prety good for 7 days.
this week will start Versa-1, OxyElite, Test powder Preworkout, BCAA during, & Agmatine, oxyElite later in the day.
Tomarrow will be a lite day, TRX class with a little xtra cardio.
I will be posting & look'n help to reach my goals.
02-19-2013, 03:23 AM
02-19-2013, 06:17 AM
02-19-2013, 11:13 AM
Refeed on anything low carb brother! I did/do carb ups on off days actually bc I found if I carb up hard on a lifting day I'm a little groogy
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02-19-2013, 12:50 PM
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02-19-2013, 01:17 PM
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02-19-2013, 03:08 PM
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