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  1. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    me too!

    yes i realize that would be helpful

    just found out it's gonna be tomorrow guys before the pdf is ready, and i want it looking nice and pretty, so................

    one more day of suspense, my apologies to everyone
    Ok, I'll wait here.


  2. I know one of the ingredients and it is the one I thought to be the best replacement for DMAA. Just don't know that I can reveal but there were other changes as well.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I know one of the ingredients and it is the one I thought to be the best replacement for DMAA. Just don't know that I can reveal but there were other changes as well.
    The original pro xt didn't have dmaa tho right

  4. Hmmmmm. Vewy intewesting. Gonna have the same effects on appetite I wonder? 500 xt killed my appetite moreso than anything I've ever taken... had to force myself to eat.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    The original pro xt didn't have dmaa tho right
    Yes it did but I believe it was a lower dose than many other diet pills.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    Hmmmmm. Vewy intewesting. Gonna have the same effects on appetite I wonder? 500 xt killed my appetite moreso than anything I've ever taken... had to force myself to eat.
    I sure hope so, considering DMAA is more of a stim not so much an appetite control I can only assume that it will still be very good for appetite suppression.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  7. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post

    Yes it did but I believe it was a lower dose than many other diet pills.
    O I was told by another rep That it did not..

  8. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I know one of the ingredients and it is the one I thought to be the best replacement for DMAA. Just don't know that I can reveal but there were other changes as well.
    snag said the panel will be released tomorrow...i guess we will have to wait and see!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  9. once again - sorry for the delay guys..
    these graphic design artists live in their own meaning of what a "timeframe" is LOL

    blowing up the ingredient panel now..kinda tuff to read there eh?
    coming shortly, thanks for your patience!
  10. HERE YOU GO!



  11. we have a patent-pending ingredient in IrisinXD, and i wasn't sure about early disclosure of this compound, hence the suspense.
    i am excited for this one!

  12. BOOM!
    THERE IT IS!!!

    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post
    This man gets my vote.
    Mine too
    After a year off, I'm back

  14. Looks awesome. Liking the PEA's and sulbutiamine with a good dose of 3,5. Mmm. But not a fan of yohimbine at all. Gonna have to wait and see how this treats some others first I guess.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    Looks damn good! Already logging a product but I'm in for the logs
    After a year off, I'm back

  16. Ahhh looks good but I stay away from 3,3 and 3,5... Bloods have shown I don't respond well to them

  17. Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    Looks awesome. Liking the PEA's and sulbutiamine with a good dose of 3,5. Mmm. But not a fan of yohimbine at all. Gonna have to wait and see how this treats some others first I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Ahhh looks good but I stay away from 3,3 and 3,5... Bloods have shown I don't respond well to them
    understood guys, totally.
    and - i have similar reactions to these types things, in previous experience, but i too will be giving this a go to assess my own reactions.

    appreciate the feedback!


    let's get some more apps rolling in!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by BigEdNJ View Post
    Would love the opportunity to try this product as I am loving the 1 andro I am currently taking.

    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Please.

    Been hanging for the new PX.

    -Chris
    EBF Rep
    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    then count this old swabby in, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    I think I've either tried or have a bottle of just about every product you guys make. Two of my favorite are your Px 500- XT and ALC CLA . Got both 1-alpha and Epi-v right know trying to decide what to run first. So definitely excited to try this out and/or hear more about it.
    guys - PM me your info, you're in.

  19. Impressive profile..can't wait

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  20. thebigt - representing the Navy, hoo yah!!!!
    After a year off, I'm back

  21. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    we have a patent-pending ingredient in IrisinXD, and i wasn't sure about early disclosure of this compound, hence the suspense.
    i am excited for this one!
    "Irisin is a hormone being researched by scientists at the Harvard Medical School that can replicate some of the positive effects of exercise"

    Like the sound of that...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  22. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    "Irisin is a hormone being researched by scientists at the Harvard Medical School that can replicate some of the positive effects of exercise"

    Like the sound of that...
    So it consumes calories upon dosage?
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    So it consumes calories upon dosage?
    Mechanism Exercise causes increased expression of PGC-1alpha in muscle, involved in muscle adaptation to exercise. This increase causes production of the protein Fndc5 in mice, then Fndc5 is cleaved to give a new product, which the researchers named Irisin, after the Greek goddess Iris.[3][4]
    Effects

    Fat

    The scientists have reported that the hormone helps convert "white fat" to "brown fat" . Brown fat has typically been found only in small amounts in adults, but is common in babies and children. Brown fat burns calories into heat, a process known as thermogenesis. [5][6]
    Diabetes

    Dr. Spiegelman's staff injected irisin into obese, pre-diabetic laboratory mice and the animals displayed improved glucose tolerance when fed a high-fat diet.
    Weight loss

    After 10 days of treatment with the irisin injections, the mice lost a small amount of weight.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Mechanism Exercise causes increased expression of PGC-1alpha in muscle, involved in muscle adaptation to exercise. This increase causes production of the protein Fndc5 in mice, then Fndc5 is cleaved to give a new product, which the researchers named Irisin, after the Greek goddess Iris.[3][4]
    Effects

    Fat

    The scientists have reported that the hormone helps convert "white fat" to "brown fat" . Brown fat has typically been found only in small amounts in adults, but is common in babies and children. Brown fat burns calories into heat, a process known as thermogenesis. [5][6]
    Diabetes

    Dr. Spiegelman's staff injected irisin into obese, pre-diabetic laboratory mice and the animals displayed improved glucose tolerance when fed a high-fat diet.
    Weight loss

    After 10 days of treatment with the irisin injections, the mice lost a small amount of weight.
    So it will help with thermogenesis (thus enhancing the caloric burn by TEF or exercise) and help with Insulin Sensitivity...Now the thing is, how long does it take to have it's effect on white fat/brown fat and, is this a study as per human data, or did the dosage of Irisin went through a human equivalent dosage? Or has it been tested on humans to show the same effect as mice?
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    So it consumes calories upon dosage?
    I am giving you the research as I find it, it's new to me also...there has been artticles aobut it...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  26. From and article is science daily more neat stuff about it...

    Irisin is a recently identified hormone secreted from muscle cells that has been found to serve as a chemical messenger providing key exercise-induced health benefits in mice. In these earlier studies, irisin showed direct effects on 'browning' of white fat which would lead to burning of excess calories. Discovery of irisin therefore raised expectations of potential for developing new therapies for metabolic diseases.
    In their study, Dr. Mantzoros and his team of researchers went one step further by uncovering the role of irisin in humans. They reported that whereas the cleaved soluble part of the FNDC5 molecule (irisin) is readily detectable in human plasma, the uncleaved and unprocessed molecule FNDC5 is only rarely detectable.
    They studied possible predictors of circulating irisin concentrations by performing cross-sectional and interventional studies in humans. They found that irisin levels reflect muscle mass primarily and are higher in younger male athletes than in older women. Also, muscle mRNA expression of FNDC5 was strongly and positively correlated with PGC1-α mRNA levels which confirms irisin as a myokine, a hormone secreted by muscle.
    The Mantzoros group addressed the controversy of whether irisin levels change in humans during exercise by comparing levels in young healthy males who performed acute sprint runs and chronic sprint training for eight weeks. The results showed that irisin levels increase in response to acute exercise and irisin levels are closely and negatively associated with muscle ATP levels, pointing to a need for a prompt secretion of irisin after acute exercise to meet the needs for ATP and metabolite synthesis in muscle. Also reported were associations of irisin with growth factors, which increase muscle mass and metabolic outcomes in normal humans; a finding which will require confirmation by future studies.
    Although this clinical study has revealed a significant amount of novel information regarding the physiological role of irisin in humans, much remains unknown regarding its function as a hormone and the regulation of FNDC5 synthesis and irisin secretion.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  27. I will throw my hat in for this one. Been off supps for a while. Time to rededicate and take charge.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I am giving you the research as I find it, it's new to me also...there has been artticles aobut it...
    Was on my phone sorry haha, hence I asked. I'll look for stuff on it too thanks Doug!
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep

  29. That Irisin is interesting stuff. I can tolerate very low amounts of yohimbine. Too much though and I am laying in bed shivering in a cold sweat with a mega boner that I can't do anything with.
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