FDA Raid....

[Geoforce]

I truly don't see the reason for other companies taking shots at PP especially now that they may be near the grave. It isn't like any company is without it's mistake (X gels anyone)? It's just weird to see people jumping up and down so much over someone's livelihood being taken away. A little off putting to say the least.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but it seems as if the personal bad blood is clouding some people's judgement and making them act like jerks imo.

This may have all been PP's fault or not and either way it happened so there you go, but people doing cartwheels at others misfortune right in front of them is off putting in this guys opinion.

[mw1]

I truly don't see the reason for other companies taking shots at PP especially now that they may be near the grave. It isn't like any company is without it's mistake (X gels anyone)? It's just weird to see people jumping up and down so much over someone's livelihood being taken away. A little off putting to say the least.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but it seems as if the personal bad blood is clouding some people's judgement and making them act like jerks imo.

I believe SNS admitted their error and did their best to correct it.
Anyone that thinks AF did something horrible here really doesnt understand this industry at all.

[HereToStudy]

Ha I really think you need to move on from PP and stop dwelling on the past.
Let me ask this-Do you think it was good for the industry to advertise products as the Safest Steroids in the world etc,etc? Stop trying to blame PP misfortunes on other companies and admit you guys were wrong PP is not a victime here

I didn't say they had anything to do with this. I had to deal with all of the bs when they were emailing our customers. I then had customers forwarding me bs PMs they were sending customers. I had to deal with customers asking me if it is true that they can get the same results even though the product has 1/5 the actives and their reps making posts about how it is cheaper without mentioning the lack of actives. So yes, I do have a desire to watch the company fail. This isn't difficult for me because everytime they pull one of these stunts, it completely backfires on them.

I am not sure how I haven't moved on from PP? I am in the process of creating a forum for the prior members, but I have not done anything at the demands of the company, nor am I carrying out a mourning loss. It is what it is and I hope for the best for the internal employees moreso than myself. Lets not talk about living in the past.

When did I say their marketing was beneficial? I wasn't a fan of the word being used in the marketiing from the begining, and could probably (but won't in respect) pull up transcripts where I have said that to others. But again, pot meet kettle. I would love to hear how CEL benefited the "industry." I mean, you know News reports of hospitalized users probably didn't benefit it too much. Marketing aside, the company's direction towards dhea-based compounds WAS in the interest of the industry. But who gives a ****? There isn't a way to be "good" for the industry.

[mw1]

I didn't say they had anything to do with this. I had to deal with all of the bs when they were emailing our customers. I then had customers forwarding me bs PMs they were sending customers. I had to deal with customers asking me if it is true that they can get the same results even though the product has 1/5 the actives and their reps making posts about how it is cheaper without mentioning the lack of actives. So yes, I do have a desire to watch the company fail. This isn't difficult for me because everytime they pull one of these stunts, it completely backfires on them.

I am not sure how I haven't moved on from PP? I am in the process of creating a forum for the prior members, but I have not done anything at the demands of the company, nor am I carrying out a mourning loss. It is what it is and I hope for the best for the internal employees moreso than myself. Lets not talk about living in the past.

When did I say their marketing was beneficial? I wasn't a fan of the word being used in the marketiing from the begining, and could probably (but won't in respect) pull up transcripts where I have said that to others. But again, pot meet kettle. I would love to hear how CEL benefited the "industry." I mean, you know News reports of hospitalized users probably didn't benefit it too much.{B] Marketing aside, the company's direction towards dhea-based compounds WAS in the interest of the industry. [/B]But who gives a ****? There isn't a way to be "good" for the industry.

Sorry but it wasnt in the best interest of the industry and especially this forum because Im sure the "safe steroids' ads have drawn the attention of the FDA to this forum. CEL never made rediculous claims or tried to gouge their cutomers with BS products

[mustang0341]

really this just makes me sad, another BS raid on a hard working AMERICAN COMPANY! Just like the BS raid on the Gibson Guitar. Always other interests involved here, at the end of the day the wrong people are benefiting from this.

[HereToStudy]

Sorry but it wasnt in the best interest of the industry and especially this forum because Im sure the "safe steroids' ads have drawn the attention of the FDA to this forum. CEL never made rediculous claims or tried to gouge their cutomers with BS products

Haha are you really that stupid? I just showed you a video of a televised news program showing someone in the hospital after using one of your products and you think that banner ads with the word steroid on a bodybuiding site with both a prohormone and anabolics setion was worse for the industy? You realize many other board have actual aas sources on thier banner ads? You know every bb magazine had "legal steroids" ads in them for ****ing years? Get a ****ing clue.

[mw1]

Haha are you really that stupid? I just showed you a video of a televised news program showing someone in the hospital after using one of your products and you think that banner ads with the word steroid on a bodybuiding site with both a prohormone and anabolics setion was worse for the industy? You realize many other board have actual aas sources on thier banner ads? You know every bb magazine had "legal steroids" ads in them for ****ing years? Get a ****ing clue.

Dude please go ahead and take PP out of your sig and move on.....you are quite pathetic

** You are aware that PP sold the exact same compounds as the one in that video ?? Or at least claimed it was the same

[jimbuick]

Dude please go ahead and take PP out of your sig and move on.....you are quite pathetic

** You are aware that PP sold the exact same compounds as the one in that video ?? Or at least claimed it was the same

I can't understand why everyone here is getting so upset.

What are you trying to prove right now mw? You are just stirring up more drama, I don't believe this to be how representatives of companies should be representing.themselves considering everything they say is a reflection of the company they represent.

[Young Gotti]

2012 thread of the year!

[houstontexas]

I can't understand why everyone here is getting so upset.

What are you trying to prove right now mw? You are just stirring up more drama, I don't believe this to be how representatives of companies should be representing.themselves considering everything they say is a reflection of the company they represent.

Jimbo droppin' that knowledge up in here nawmsayin?

BTW Flex is right some people are probably just in here to start drama. Me personally I'm just here to watch and occasionally say something stupid, but harmless...

[HereToStudy]

Dude please go ahead and take PP out of your sig and move on.....you are quite pathetic

** You are aware that PP sold the exact same compounds as the one in that video ?? Or at least claimed it was the same

I didnt notice the sig becauase it has been there for years.

I am not the one looking pathetic. You presented poor arguments and i countered them. A member above is giving you a hint asking what you are trying to achieve. You need to stop acting like leader of the hormone world, you have creatine to sell.

As for us selling superdrol, never denied it. It was fetching 150$ a bottle preban in the second hand market. it was a well recieved product. You were the one trying to act like cel was motivated for anything but money and were the saviors of the hormone industry. You made claims of us damaging the industry. I merely pointed out what a moron you are.

[mw1]

I didnt notice the sig becauase it has been there for years.

I am not the one looking pathetic. You presented poor arguments and i countered them. A member above is giving you a hint asking what you are trying to achieve. You need to stop acting like leader of the hormone world, you have creatine to sell.

As for us selling superdrol, never denied it. It was fetching 150$ a bottle preban in the second hand market. it was a well recieved product. You were the one trying to act like cel was motivated for anything but money and were the saviors of the hormone industry. You made claims of us damaging the industry. I merely pointed out what a moron you are.

You know at first i felt sorry for your situation but now i dont think it could have happened to a better company .- you guys have been screwing customers with your overpriced product for years .

[HereToStudy]

Keep deflecting to different arguments bro.

[tyga tyga]

bullshít, Tupac has been dead since 1997... 15 years.
Ladies still love him, people still quote his music, & people still listen to day in & day out.
Hate to tell ya he's a legend living or dead.

...1996

[jimbuick]

You know at first i felt sorry for your situation but now i dont think it could have happened to a better company .- you guys have been screwing customers with your overpriced product for years .

I've never personally used their products because of them being hormonal but I can say, without a shadow of a doubt that they had many customers who were more than pleased with their results and were willing to buy more than once and that must mean that the consumers did not share your opinion.

[thebigt]

...1996

beatles were around in 69, bet they still outsell him.

[tyga tyga]

beatles were around in 69, bet they still outsell him.

I love how thers two seperate arguments going on in this thread lol

Rap vs rock
PP vs AF

Nice

[cswalczakny]

I love how thers two seperate arguments going on in this thread lol

Rap vs rock
PP vs AF

Nice

This is truely a specimen of thread dynamics

[thebigt]

I love how thers two seperate arguments going on in this thread lol

Rap vs rock
PP vs AF

Nice

ozzy osbourne and keith richards have been dead for years and still do live shows...top that!!!

[thebigt]

they just keep dying/reincarnating...dying/reincarnating.......