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  1. I've been a member for a long time now and never received any free products from any company except samples from nutraplanet


  2. Quote Originally Posted by cokeholio View Post
    I've been a member for a long time now and never received any free products from any company except samples from nutraplanet
    Nobody owes you FREE products. If you want to earn some by doing reviews or logs, then just put up some apps in the company promo section.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions rep
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    I've actually had this happen where I'm a reasonable person, i don't sign up for multiple promotions at once. I've submitted my personal info after going through a comprehensive selection process filling out detailed applications and compiling past logs only to be told week after week that "it's just shipped" and really it never arrives and i watch many other great logging opportunities come and go...

    While they can't go on a blacklist necessarily... they are a company after all... there should be some sort of repercussion against the company or some sort of compensation required of a company if we are to be held accountable as well.

    Bottom line is, I've posted on boards for over 8 years. I've dedicated TONS of hours, days and at this point years of my life to amassing knowledge on products in general how they effect ones physiology and more importantly how i personally react to different compounds. I feel my time and input is valuable and my feedback is candid and informative.

    Sure i get to try a supplement for "free" but believe me considering how much i make for my regular job, they are getting my time for one hell of a discount. Not to mention a possible positive and comprehensive review of their product.


    So while this quoted comment may sound silly to some, he makes a VERY valid point. Accountability should be just as important on both ends of the spectrum.
    exactly...considering how much advertising in magazines cost, giving away a few products for month long logs/reviews is very, very cheap!!!
    it must be, because you see a promo section on almost every forum, plus how often do companies get screwed by suresha's, not very often...this whole friggin thread is a whole lot made out of nothing, imo.




    geezus....i bet companies give away more free stuff at the arnold in one day than all the companies combined lose out on by non-loggers in 5 f'ing years, lol. get over it!!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf

    Nobody owes you FREE products. If you want to earn some by doing reviews or logs, then just put up some apps in the company promo section.
    Relax kingjames, never said anyone owed me anything, just noticed for as long as I've been a member I don't recall getting any promos or products and ur right it's because I don't put up apps or ask about them.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by cokeholio View Post
    Relax kingjames, never said anyone owed me anything, just noticed for as long as I've been a member I don't recall getting any promos or products and ur right it's because I don't put up apps or ask about them.
    Not trying to attack you bud, just pointing out that there is no right or entitlement to free products except through the company promos when selected. Throw some apps in and I'm sure you'll get your chance to log a product if you want it.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions rep
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    exactly...considering how much advertising in magazines cost, giving away a few products for month long logs/reviews is very, very cheap!!!
    it must be, because you see a promo section on almost every forum, plus how often do companies get screwed by suresha's, not very often...this whole friggin thread is a whole lot made out of nothing, imo.

    geezus....i bet companies give away more free stuff at the arnold in one day than all the companies combined lose out on by non-loggers in 5 f'ing years, lol. get over it!!!!
    The proof is in the pudding...

    This thread was made, my guess in response to one individual... maybe a couple... but then there were no admissions for about 6 months till it was bumped... then not much again until this single member again goes on a supp whoring spree..

    I agree there should be repercussions against said types of members. That's as simple as a rep pming a mod... there's already rules covering this when you join that you agree to...No need for a list of parameters before admission of names for blacklist/banning, waiting period and so on... Just ban the a hole and be done with it.

    It should be a reps job in the first place when running a promotion to look into a potential loggers previous contributions beyond what's portrayed in a tester application... this would honestly weed out 99% of potential crap candidates.

    I'm only saying stuff like this cause I've repped multiple times myself and its really not hard to earn your keep especially when playing with your companies commodities.

    Do your job and there won't be an issue in the first place.
    iForceHemavol=He-man?-http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/187487-hemavol-heman-doughs.htmlCompound 20 Beta log-http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/185396-molding-dough-compound.html

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    The proof is in the pudding...

    This thread was made, my guess in response to one individual... maybe a couple... but then there were no admissions for about 6 months till it was bumped... then not much again until this single member again goes on a supp whoring spree..

    I agree there should be repercussions against said types of members. That's as simple as a rep pming a mod... there's already rules covering this when you join that you agree to...No need for a list of parameters before admission of names for blacklist/banning, waiting period and so on... Just ban the a hole and be done with it.

    It should be a reps job in the first place when running a promotion to look into a potential loggers previous contributions beyond what's portrayed in a tester application... this would honestly weed out 99% of potential crap candidates.

    I'm only saying stuff like this cause I've repped multiple times myself and its really not hard to earn your keep especially when playing with your companies commodities.

    Do your job and there won't be an issue in the first place.
    well said!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  8. Good call Dough.

    This is where post counts need to be higher for a product opp log.

    Cuts out those cheap skates... Maybe AM can look at putting a log review score for similar to a rep point scoring system. This way people get a feedback on their logging and its recorded
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Good call Dough.

    This is where post counts need to be higher for a product opp log.

    Cuts out those cheap skates... Maybe AM can look at putting a log review score for similar to a rep point scoring system. This way people get a feedback on their logging and its recorded
    I like the post count idea and you should include people that have at least decent rep power to, not to sure about the feedback scoring thing <-- I can see people abusing that system.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by MrMarc View Post
    I like the post count idea and you should include people that have at least decent rep power to, not to sure about the feedback scoring thing <-- I can see people abusing that system.
    lol...like people don't abuse the rep point system...
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lol...like people don't abuse the rep point system...
    Well for the most part I think the feedback system would be a lot worse lol haa

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    The proof is in the pudding...

    This thread was made, my guess in response to one individual... maybe a couple... but then there were no admissions for about 6 months till it was bumped... then not much again until this single member again goes on a supp whoring spree..

    I agree there should be repercussions against said types of members. That's as simple as a rep pming a mod... there's already rules covering this when you join that you agree to...No need for a list of parameters before admission of names for blacklist/banning, waiting period and so on... Just ban the a hole and be done with it.

    It should be a reps job in the first place when running a promotion to look into a potential loggers previous contributions beyond what's portrayed in a tester application... this would honestly weed out 99% of potential crap candidates.

    I'm only saying stuff like this cause I've repped multiple times myself and its really not hard to earn your keep especially when playing with your companies commodities.

    Do your job and there won't be an issue in the first place.

    The 99% might be a bit high but yes. Of course when a newer member is just starting out, they don't have a background that can be checked into. If no one gives them a chance to log, then they don't get the background for future opps. There are times that a rep goes out on a limb for some people to give them a chance. If we only picked those that had a background to check out, it would be worse with the same people running multiple logs one after the other. It is good to get some new blood and that is what this thread is really all about is the newer guys that have not made a good name for themselves as a respected logger already. After all, most of the reps here pretty much know who is who of the veteran loggers here and this thread is NOT needed for them, just the newer members.
    Jeremiah 29:11-14

  13. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd View Post
    The 99% might be a bit high but yes. Of course when a newer member is just starting out, they don't have a background that can be checked into. If no one gives them a chance to log, then they don't get the background for future opps. There are times that a rep goes out on a limb for some people to give them a chance. If we only picked those that had a background to check out, it would be worse with the same people running multiple logs one after the other. It is good to get some new blood and that is what this thread is really all about is the newer guys that have not made a good name for themselves as a respected logger already. After all, most of the reps here pretty much know who is who of the veteran loggers here and this thread is NOT needed for them, just the newer members.
    i like the part where he said just pm a mod, ban the a-hole and be done with it!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd

    The 99% might be a bit high but yes. Of course when a newer member is just starting out, they don't have a background that can be checked into. If no one gives them a chance to log, then they don't get the background for future opps. There are times that a rep goes out on a limb for some people to give them a chance. If we only picked those that had a background to check out, it would be worse with the same people running multiple logs one after the other. It is good to get some new blood and that is what this thread is really all about is the newer guys that have not made a good name for themselves as a respected logger already. After all, most of the reps here pretty much know who is who of the veteran loggers here and this thread is NOT needed for them, just the newer members.
    Maybe not 99% but pretty close, this isn't a logging community... logs are done as part of the info sharing done in the community.

    There are many other ways someone can contribute to build a reputation and more then anything, free products aren't necessary to perform a log, they can sponsor their own supplement log, review aproduct they already purchased and used or even just run a detailed workout log of their own.

    Every opportunity is afforded to them the second they join to prove themselves, no one and no company "has to" give them a chance. They can build their own background.

    When it comes to running a sponsored log...

    It's not a right, it's a privilege.
    iForceHemavol=He-man?-http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/187487-hemavol-heman-doughs.htmlCompound 20 Beta log-http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/185396-molding-dough-compound.html

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    Maybe not 99% but pretty close, this isn't a logging community... logs are done as part of the info sharing done in the community.

    There are many other ways someone can contribute to build a reputation and more then anything, free products aren't necessary to perform a log, they can sponsor their own supplement log, review aproduct they already purchased and used or even just run a detailed workout log of their own.

    Every opportunity is afforded to them the second they join to prove themselves, no one and no company "has to" give them a chance. They can build their own background.

    When it comes to running a sponsored log...

    It's not a right, it's a privilege.
    I agree, it is definitely a privilege! The thing about running a log with a product that they bought is that they have a vested stake in it to complete the product. Some don't feel that way with a "free" product. I too believe that the rep has to do their job and check background first. I agree with what you are saying but just throwing in some different variables.
    Jeremiah 29:11-14

  16. Great idea! Logging your progress while on the sample is the best part!! I guess I didn't realize some people on here take advantage of the opportunities they're given. Sad deal.
    Life's a garden, dig it

  17. I think the spirit of this thread is getting a little clouded. When I first started reading am.com, I found the logs very informative, and when looking to purchase a new product, I look for detailed logs to see how it was working, what the "average" guy thought about it, etc. Good logs can come from anybody, and the number of posts, rep points, or length of membership have nothing to do with whether or not someone will run a good detailed log. Unfortunately, Ive seen many, many unfinished and abandoned logs, not everyone from a scumbag just looking to scam a company out of product, some from people who had problems they felt were big enough to not complete their commitment, maybe their kids were sick, or their dog died, or they had to study for finals, or cover a sick coworkers shift. Point is whether its a scumbag trying to scam free products, or a regular joe who had problems, they didn't complete their log, life happens, **** happens, if they agree to do it, and don't, then they go on the black list.
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  19. What about those guys that are doing like 5 logs at a time?.

  20. ive noticed the same people apply for every promo and sadly get chosen over and over....
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  21. and they run crap logs as well
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    What about those guys that are doing like 5 logs at a time?.
    Bro to test the effects of a new supplement I start by running at least 6 other new supplements at the same time. That was we have a better idea of how it works with other stuff on the market.

    Also I don't run logs of new products unless I'm on cycle. That way we know how it effects people who are on a cycle.

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  23. Possibly
    Jeremiah 29:11-14

  24. Is anyone actually on the black list?

  25. No one still on the forums
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