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In case you have no heard about PES-AnaBeta-01, see the next post for some opening reviews from members here at AM

Now...AnaBeta is not a very cool name...so help us make up a name!

Hoping to have a name decided by May 1st, the day our first newsletter will be mailed out. Get on the list! (on our home page, Performance Enhancing Supplements)

Lets hear some names that fit this product! If we use your name you will get a free "AnaBeta"
 
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PES-AnaBeta-01 Review

Username: Rosie Chee Scott

Dosage: ~4 caps daily

Pros/Positive Effects:
* From day one (where I did NOT train at all), there was an immediate increase in muscle hardness - in deltoids and arms especially (at first I thought I was imagining it, but it continued on, getting stronger with continued usage) - the hardness in arms starts not long after dosing and remains throughout the day.
* As far as days when training, dosing post-meal containing carbohydrates elicits the "hard muscle" effect in arms (biceps in particular) ~20 minutes after dosing - this is especially true moreso if the meal is the one immediately POST-training, instead of being before.
* Vascularity was increased, to the levels it would normally be when I am a few bodyfat percentage LEANER.
* Noticeable nutrient repartitioning/insulin-like effects - the nutrient repartitioning effects are stronger after a meal that contains ONLY complex carbohydrates and protein (clean meal).
* I increased the lean mass in shoulders, arms, glutes and calves by at least half an inch in each area.
* Increase in thirst was noticeable from day one, and I was drinking close to ~2 galleons of water a day.

Cons/Side Effects:
* My skin is usually clear, but this caused blemishes (starting from the second day is usage), as well as increasing the oiliness of my skin.
* My natural aggression was slightly increased and I was moodier than usual (although this can also be attributed to the circumstances of the time and not just the product).
* Diuretic effects occurred every ~10 minutes when training is dosed pre-training, which was annoying.
* The increase in appetite was unreal and only got more pronounced over time, especially later in the day/night - this effect was a "con" for me, since my goal at the time was fat loss, and that was NOT happening. The longer the period between doses (and also the higher the daily dosage used), the stronger the effect on appetite. Even Sean commented that I was even worse than usual re appetite and eating - which is saying something given that he already calls me the "human garbage disposal", LOL. His words: "You've done some serious damage over the last two weeks".

Cliff Notes of effects:
* Noticeable increase in muscle hardness, vascularity, and nutrient repartitioning and thirst.
* Effects that get more pronounced over usage include causing blemishes and increased oiliness of skin, and ridiculous increase in appetite.
* Strong diuretic effect after dosing - good in general, but bad when it occurs during training (from pre-training dose).

Other Notes:
Used for two weeks.
Training
* Week 1 - every other day was a day off, with single training on the days training completed.
* Week 2 - trained five days, with four of those training days double sessions (am and pm).
Body Statistics
* Start - 11% bodyfat at 124.8 pounds.
* Start to end of Week 1 - 126.6 pounds (+1.8 pounds with +1.0842 pounds of bodyfat and + 0.7158 pounds of lean body mass) at 11.7% bodyfat (+0.7% bodyfat).
* End of Week 1 to end of Week 2 -127.8 pounds (+1.2 pounds with +0.0126 pounds of bodyfat and + 1.1874 pounds of lean body mass) at 11.6% bodyfat (-0.1% bodyfat).
* Overall - +3 pounds and + 0.6% bodyfat.

Would you recommend it?:
I really feel that this is a definite BULKER, so I would only recommend it if one was using it for that purpose. If one was recomping, it might also be a valid option, given my results in the second week. However, I would definitely NOT recommend it for one aiming for straight fat loss . . .The product is definitely more effective with high volume training as well re effects in body composition (as seen from body statistics from week 1 to week 2) . . .

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PES-AnaBeta-01 Review

Username: 3clipseGT

Pros/Positive Effects: Muslce hardness, nutrient repartitioning, great pumps, good strength gains, vascularity, libido, and fullness.

Cons/Side Effects: Only one i noted was if taken to late in the day it was hard to sleep.

Cliff Notes of effects: Started working by week two and just kept going up from there. Nutrient repartitioning at its finest here. Great pumps that lasted and good strength gains to go with. Definitely felt fuller during the day and muscles were noteably harder as well. Libido was sky high during the run and mood was alpha maleish.

Would you recommend it? Without a doubt!

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Here is some more feedback from 2 of our original testers. One of the very reputable testers no longer posts on this forum.

Pros/Positive Effects: Noteworthy strength increases beginning the 2nd week, minor diuretic/drying effect, some (2-3lbs) lean gain while recomping

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"Here are a few more effects I have noticed...

The appetite increase is definitely due to the AnaBeta.

The pumps from the stuff can be very irritating...I mean they are extreme in the sense that I cannot even finish a workout properly because the muscles feel so full. It is a cool effect to be so inflated, but it sucks because it can be painful when trying to work through it during a set.

There definitely seems to be some kind of recomping effect going on as well. I am noticing some body composition changes.

I definitely have more of a hunger for carbs so I can say that this formula is best used for bulking/recomping. I would not recommend this for cutting.

The thermogenic effect is definitely noticeable. I sweat more when I take this stuff pre-workout and it does have a tendency to make my core temperature rise after having it even while I am just sitting on my ass playing some PS3.

I haven't noticed any aggression increases, but I have noticed a feeling of feeling more alert and just kind of like a calming effect with intense focus. The calming effect in particular is noticeable because I am an aggressive-dominant type of personality...I am an ******* and make no excuses for it, but this stuff has kind of mellowed me out which is odd. "

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Here is a review from a user currently 2 weeks into the product

Name: Rodja

Pros: No GI distress, great reduces bloating from carbs, vascularity, increased sweating, slight increases in strength.

Cons: Slight indigestion/nausea, but it subsides within an hour (only on the first dose of the day). This could be from waiting too long to eat and going a tad hypo.

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Username: MrBigPR

Pros/Positive Effects: Increased urination, muscle hardening, raised body temperature, increased sexual drive, increased mental state and mood, junk food not appealing

Cons/Side Effects: No energy (as in this is not a stimulant, this did not produce any feelings of lethargy), increased thirst (drinking upwards of 3 gallons easy while on this!)

Beyond that there is nothing....nothing at all.

Cliff Notes of effects:
HOLY cow! Where to start? This supplement is amazing, increase on my lifts, great mood, increased sex drive and straight fat loss! INcrease in my total workout endurance as well as a major bump in cardiovascular training as well. Increased sweating/decrease in water weight/tight muscles and hard feeling...even "the" muscle.

I could write a paper on the supplement...stuff is bomb. MUST RELEASE!!!!
 
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Quotes from Ryansm throughout his log

I'm in a great mood! Strong mood enhancing effects already, good sign as I wasn't expecting this.

Training:
Today was shoulders, typically I do some moderately heavy jerks and snatch work, but still trying to recuperate from the injury so I kept it pretty light.

Muscle snatch for warm-up 60 kilos
P snatch 60 kilos for 3 reps
80 x 2
100 x 2
110 x 2 for 4 sets
Split jerks
100 kilos for 3
120 x 3
130 x 2
140 x 2
150 x2
160 x 2 for 2 sets
Light shrug work
315 for 5 sets of 10

That's it, quick and easy today, felt great, lots of energy<something else that is noticeable. I'm not real interested in pumps, sorry guys, just not too important to me. I did notice I felt "tighter", and my shoulder/traps felt more "pumped" than usual. Also after the workout I dosed again along with 60grams whey isolate and 60grams oats. Noticing fuller muscle bellies, specifically more in the shoulder/traps area. Interesting to say the least. Very strong nutrient shuttling and glycogen storing effects it seems. Very very impressed so far, and still thirsty as hell!

First day holy crap!

Ok so I did legs today, nothing crazy as I can't go heavy here with my injuries. Consisted of Squat, Front Squat, and Glute Ham Raise. I also went ahead and did some hip speed work with keg tosses. Workout went great I had a lot of energy.

Now on to some impressions, first I have noticed this has a strong thermogenic effect, I am a lot hotter than usual. Also last night after my cheat meal I got hungry again in no time, simply an hour or so! I was pretty depleted by this time being on low carbs all week, and I must say I felt very full muscle bellies after the meal, no bloat.

Like Sean was saying Rosie, strongest of the nutrient repartitioners I have used and that includes several well known ones. It is similar to the glycogen effects you get when on SD, ya I said it, very pronounced feeling.

Today was an off today besides some boring elliptical cardio ugh. I did notice my endurance has increased somewhat, kind of similar to cordyceps as in my breathing is not as labored and I can push myself harder and longer<that's what she said:)

Also I feel "tight" somewhat of a diuretic effect it seems, vascularity in my forearms is increased even at rest. My appetite has increased, especially more noticeable after exercise, which for me is a change as typically I am not immediately hungry after training.

Mood is still good, and energy is ample. Looking forward to putting this to the test over this weeks training!

Update!
So I weighed in today at 302, ya up 2 pounds. Usually by Monday I have stabilized back to my pre-friday cheat meal and the weight loss continues albeit very slow. This time I ate way more than I usually do. In fact my appetite is to the point of being ridiculous. I'm hungry all day, even after my larger meals, breakfast/post-workout. However the odd thing is I feel "full" and what I mean is my muscle bellies are very full to the point of feeling like an overfilled balloon. Very much like being on some type of hormone. I feel "pumped" all day, and vascularity is definitely increased/noticeable.
Training today was chest I followed 5/3/1 today and have been for my chest (bench) routine.
this was 5/3/1 week
warm up
135 x 12
205 x 5
250 x 5
300 x 3
380 x 5
430 x 3
480 x 6
Incline BB
5 x 10 at 205
dips weighted BW + 115
5 x 10
That's it, quick. Pump was intense, especially by the time I got to dips. Energy is fantastic and so is my mood. Also I'm hot, marked increased in body temp. Strength was pretty much the same, however less "motivation" was needed to work the sets.

Whew so today I decided to step on the scale, usually not relevant nor done because Monday is my 1 week weigh in. However, I was feeling...well just big lol, so I decided to see and I am now up to 306, WTF! I have been eating a little more, but this is crazy 6 pounds...Thing is I look just as lean, but bigger. Now I have been on a low-carb/refeed type diet for quite awhile and the extra cals added in are from carbs. Interesting point here is I do not feel bloated.

Training:
today was shoulders, but I went with an all out heavy jerk, which I probably shouldn't but damn do I feel good.
Split Jerk
70 kilos x 4
100 x 3
120 x 3
140 x 2
150 x 1
160 x 1
170 x 1
180 x 1
190 x 1 < I haven't gone this heavy in a while, felt real explosive and recovery is quick! feels good jerking over 400 again
Light DB shoulder press
120's 3 sets of 8
shrugs
315 x 10
405 x 10
505 x 10
585 x 10

Great workout, certainly did a lot of work as those heavy jerks take a lot out of you. Energy is fantastic, not jittery, no crash, no over stimulation just perfect along with a great uplift in mood. Endurance is up, but what I notice is CNS recovery is very quick. Not sure if this needs to be cycled, but I would like to run this non-stop.

Energy is intense this morning! Direct effect with carb loading and energy, very strong and makes you feel really damn good. Impressive....

Anyway no weights, but will be tossing some cabers and kegs later for hip speed and cardio!

So cardio today was a breeze. I do explosive type cardio for the most part, working on speed mainly today. Felt really athletic today, and what I mean is my speed, coordination, and explosiveness all felt in line and easy to tap. If you have ever been an athlete, or if you have had "on" days or "off" days then this can be explained best as an "on" day when you are just feeling it. Quite honestly I have had nothing but "on" days since starting:)
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Some words from OnTheRoadTo Log

Jesus dude, they're not lying about the increased thirst. I popped 3 last night periworkout and ate about 2 pounds of delicious cheeseburgers, and when I woke up my tongue was sticking to the roof of my mouth. It's probably psychosomatic at this point, but I feel slightly pumped in my back/bis. I can already tell this is more potent than any natty supp I've taken as a GDA (glycobol, anabolic pump, berberine stacked with insopro).

Damn you natty, you've got me interested as hell.

OK, popped 1 with a 6" doublemeat sub

waited an hour

ate a pb sandwich, and experimentally threw the kitchen sink at this workout

60mg 1,3 dimethylamylamine
200mg caffeine
400mg sulbutiamine
7g glycerol
1 scoop xtend
22g whey
another Anabeta-01
12.5mg 6-bromo
and 2.5mg cialis


I had a workout so good, that my ears are ringing This has never happened before, ever. I have some guesses as to the method of action of this stuff...but damn. I am pretty susceptible to psychosomatic effects, but this is some pretty sick placebo!

DEADLIFTS
worked up to

515x4 (cluster)
405x12 (kill me)

CG cable rows
220 warmup
300x5
345 (stack with a 45 pinned on) - 9 (pin snapped in half, I bad a bad gym citizen :( ...will replace that)
300 x12

Motorcycle cable row (christian thibaudeau special, great for lat stretch)
6 @ 90
12 @ 80
10 @ 80

Bentover triceps extension
200x22
200x13
200x9

(Rest pause-ish...was gunshy about pinning to the stack again!)

EZ bar curls
125x8
155x6 (some cheating, focus on negative)
125x9

Spider curls (I like the stretch)
95x4
75x 8
75x6

Then I went down the rack for standing db curls, 55s -> 45s ->35s, just because I was feeling and looking monstrous and I wanted to catch a pump; mission accomplished

Weighed in at 255. Most vascular I've ever looked, as an aside.

I was literally almost unconscious, lying flat on the gym floor making a "sweat angel". High rep deadlifts are definitely ruiners.

No workout today, just installed coilovers on my car and prepped it for a turbo install. I just put the cialis' 36 hour half life to good use. ;) I did notice quite a lot of energy today, given i had poor sleep. I'm not going to chalk it all up to the Anabeta yet, but there is definitely no androgen-mediated lethargy.

Also, I noticed an even larger than normal appetite, like rosie mentioned. I had 2/3 a pan of lasagna for dinner (to put in context, 3 other people had the other 1/3 combined)...then i was still hungry, so i ate half a rotisserie chicken...then i was still hungry so i ate some blueberry muffin cake and a bowl of cereal.

Then I was concerned I was too carb heavy so I dumped a scoop of protein in my mouth and washed it down with milk. (I am too lazy to dirty a shaker, try it sometime)
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Words from AE14's Log


Had a real nice workout of back and bi's

5 sets of the following
wide grip chins
db rows
bb rows
hanging inverted rows

4 sets:
hammer curls
standing alternating curls

I did not notice much right off the bat concerning pump for back, however, for bi's it was downright painful. For some reason I got hit really hard during hammer curls. My right arm felt like it might explode.

The thermo effect is still quite noticeable, which gets odd during the day in front of 30 high school students.

Real strong chest/tri lift today

8 sets
Incline bp 2 sets of 295lbs 3 reps :woohoo:

4 sets
flat flyes
suspended pushups

superset
db tri ext (4 sets per weight)

Had a real solid pump, and was quite energetic. Was really thrilled with the results of incline, specifically b/c I weighed in at 198lbs

BTW, I am noticing that at rest my vascularity is up. Not sure if it related or not, but it is noticeable.

Had a real nice back/bi workout. Was able to pull well, which was great considering the break I had to take a few weeks back

8 sets dl
4 sets underhand chins
5 sets bb rows

4 sets bb curls using fat grippz
4 sets hammer curls.

Felt great, quite energetic and aggressive. Pump was solid as well as my vascarity being through the roof. Going to weigh in tomorrow to get a sense of results.

Different chest and tri day as I spent the morning in the ER. Nothing of any severity.

Here was the workout
8 sets flat bp
5 sets incline bp
4 sets incline flyes

7 sets cg bp

pump was great, and my intensity was very strong as well, part of which was an annoyance with the ER.

Not sure if I will be able to lift tomorrow, as I found out I have a meeting at work in the afternoon that will delay me a bit.
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this seems to have some serotonin effects...mood is AMAZING today. Took a cap on an empty stomach and ate 2 hours later....the effect got BIGGER, not to mention every muscle in my body (yes the wank).

Good stuff Natty. I added 15 pounds on my bench last night and I'm 2 months past PCT.....passed.....and I'm sure I could have put more on but I decided not to (safety).
Another update from an original tester
 
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That is just a taste of reviews, I have not collected all of the reviews yet, there are still about 4 more loggers logs I have to go through :D
 
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MUSCLE

Simply stating what the product does - add muscle mass. Matches the single-word name of the rest of the PES line-up.

~Rosie~
 
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Just suggestions: I'd be happy to be sent a free bottle on the off chance you end up using any of my suggestions. :)

I dont know if any suppliments are already called this.


Ripped
Mass attack
Vigor
Detonate
Ignite
Engage
 
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PES Brawn
 
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Few more, i enjoy this type of thing.

Savage:
Anti-up: tagline- Up the ante/its time to up the ante
 

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PES' naming conventions seem to lean towards the understated, clean sort of terms, which I like. Considering the simplicity of the names "Erase" and "Shift", both of which have connotations of actions like changing or altering one's attributes, I think something along the lines of the following seem in keeping with the existing lines:

Build
Forge
Form
Create

Any of the above might allow for marketing to convey messages in the imperative mood, like "Create lean mass", shift your metabolism, etc.

Other ideas:
Forge...conjuring images of a strong blacksmith working with intense heat to form battle armor and swords. Also can be used to convey action like the other names.
Form another verb to use in the imperative.
Build Plain and simple, like the rest of PES names.

(I know AT2 doesn't quite fit w/ the action/imperative idea, but it's still a simple yet elegant nod to the ingredients)
 
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PES Build


PES' naming conventions seem to lean towards the understated, clean sort of terms, which I like. Considering the simplicity of the names "Erase" and "Shift", both of which have connotations of actions like changing or altering one's attributes, I think something along the lines of the following seem in keeping with the existing lines:

Build
Forge
Form
Create

Any of the above might allow for marketing to convey messages in the imperative mood, like "Create lean mass", shift your metabolism, etc.

Other ideas:
Forge...conjuring images of a strong blacksmith working with intense heat to form battle armor and swords. Also can be used to convey action like the other names.
Form another verb to use in the imperative.
Build Plain and simple, like the rest of PES names.

(I know AT2 doesn't quite fit w/ the action/imperative idea, but it's still a simple yet elegant nod to the ingredients)
You beat me!
 
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Grow....sounds like thats what everyone is doing while on it

And it sounds like you can Grow while Shift-ing your metabolism to Erase fat.

This stuff sounds off the chain! Can't wait till you release!
 
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If it is as good as the logs suggest what about:
Dominate
 
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pes has supplements with one word

so PES Nails is what came to my mind, since the testers seem to say it makes the muscles hard, and the thing that popped into my head was hard as nails
 
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PES Prominence

PES Bloat

PES Style

PES Cyclone
 
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Boost
 
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Gain
 
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From my brief experience on it.....

1. growth
2. meat (could be taken in an odd way) My thought is since you add significant muscle (didnt want to steal Rosie's)
 
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Transmutation ....
 

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PES ENVY gym goers will be envious of your gains without the toxicity of steroids.
 
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PES Develop
PES Produce
PES Substantial
PES Intense
PES Extortionate
PES Herculean
PES Wondrous
 
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PES:
Hulk
Size
Mass
Volume
Body
Smash
Destroy
Shatter
Swell
Enlarge
Engorge
Increase
 
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Switch, Modify, Alter
 
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Well, since you guys already have Erase and Shift, how about:

PES Ctrl
PES Alt
PES Return
PES F11

and for all the Mac users:

PES Apple Symbol

:lmao:
 
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Well, since you guys already have Erase and Shift, how about:

PES Ctrl
PES Alt
PES Return
PES F11

and for all the Mac users:

PES Apple Symbol

:lmao:
but if they make it PES Apple Symbol then they'd need to charge $500 per bottle... so that's out..

PES T-800

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"Hey you, ya you girly man. Gey PES T-800 and Terminate your weaknesses today!"
 
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Easy...

PES SWOLE

Pretty "hip" term used in reference to bodybuilding that would catch on pretty quick I think
 
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No not you natty...Im naming the product.
 
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