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  1. Lightbulb Who wants to see a fat-burner product from Athletix Sports?!? Get on in here!


    AM Members,

    We have some very good formulation ideas in the works, but I want to take this opportunity to see what the members here are looking for in a fat-burner type product. I think it's very important to be in touch with your consumer base and listen to what the majority of potential customers are looking for from a specific type of sports supplement; as well as what has worked well for them.

    So, let me hear what specific ingredients have worked well for you in the past in this department. We're looking to put together a very effective and economical product in this category in the near future.





    -John

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  2. Alpha-Y, Chlorogenic acid, 3,3-3,5 , N-Acetyl-Tyrosine, A form of L Carnitine, TTA is a fav too but i know thats a grey area.

    Those are a few ive had real good luck with and enjoy being on.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Alpha-Y, Chlorogenic acid, 3,3-3,5 , N-Acetyl-Tyrosine, A form of L Carnitine, TTA is a fav too but i know thats a grey area.

    Those are a few ive had real good luck with and enjoy being on.
    Hey Eclipse why is TTA considered a grey area? I've used VPX Clenbutrx in the past and I believe that was one of the ingredients listed. Thanks in advance.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Hey Eclipse why is TTA considered a gray area? I've used VPX Clenbutrx in the past and I believe that was one of the ingredients listed. Thanks in advance.
    I think because its not a natural substance but i could be wrong. I know some companies are taking out TTA. Two i know of would be RPNs DCP and VPX's meltdown.

  5. It's entering Stage III trials right now.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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  6. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    I think because its not a natural substance but i could be wrong. I know some companies are taking out TTA. Two i know of would be RPNs DCP and VPX's meltdown.
    Always curious to learn more. Thank you.

  7. Leucine 250mg
    EPA/DHA 600-700mg
    Caffeine 100mg
    Forskolin 20% or hjgher
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    Leucine 250mg
    EPA/DHA 600-700mg
    Caffeine 100mg
    Forskolin 20% or hjgher
    I hate caffeine in my fat burners... I drink coffee already and could buy caffeine cheap and add it myself if i wanted. I'd personally like if it was left out to save room for more useful ingredients.

    But I do like- EGCG, Alpha-Y, Octopamine HCL, fucoxanthin , green coffee bean extract-Chlorogenic Acid, Plcar

  9. Replicate Lipokinetix from 8 years ago!!! I think it was usic acid or sodium usinate?
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  10. I couldn't agree more.

    Perhaps you could make a non-stim variety! For PM use and for those of us wanting to avoid stims.




    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    I hate caffeine in my fat burners... I drink coffee already and could buy caffeine cheap and add it myself if i wanted. I'd personally like if it was left out to save room for more useful ingredients.

    But I do like- EGCG, Alpha-Y, Octopamine HCL, fucoxanthin , green coffee bean extract-Chlorogenic Acid, Plcar
    A-Minds HYPE-SLAYER! All posts & feedback are guaranteed to be unsolicited and legit
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  11. Forskohlin 20%, fucoxanthin, Alpha-Yohimbine, ECA, EGCG, 3,3 & 3,5, some form of cortisol control

    If anything, I'd leave out the EGCG because IMO it has to be dosed too high to fit in the right number of caps. I'd rather use straight EGCG on the side instead since it's cheap.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    I couldn't agree more.

    Perhaps you could make a non-stim variety! For PM use and for those of us wanting to avoid stims.

    NOOOOOO!!!

    I want something that makes me feel like I'm on ****ing crank!!! 4reeeeal


  13. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Replicate Lipokinetix from 8 years ago!!! I think it was usic acid or sodium usinate?
    If only... that is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
    The Historic PES Legend

  14. This ingredient, dosed high: N-methyl-b-methyl-PEA. IT is the only real form of PEA that is worth a darn, all of the other suggestions are good as well. I would say ditch the EGCG, that uses up too much space. And if you go stim, use methyl-synephrine if there is geranium in it to smooth the energy drop.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Forskohlin 20%, fucoxanthin, Alpha-Yohimbine, ECA, EGCG, 3,3 & 3,5, some form of cortisol control

    If anything, I'd leave out the EGCG because IMO it has to be dosed too high to fit in the right number of caps. I'd rather use straight EGCG on the side instead since it's cheap.
    That's true. I just use PP's organic capped stuff it's like $9 top quality.

    Wasn't sure if you were kidding but I don't think they can legally put ECA in a supp. Could be wrong though...

  16. Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    That's true. I just use PP's organic capped stuff it's like $9 top quality.

    Wasn't sure if you were kidding but I don't think they can legally put ECA in a supp. Could be wrong though...
    E can now be marketed for fat loss, but only at 8mg per serving rather than the old standard 25.

    Which in my eyes is BS considering is 1000% DSHEA compliant.
    The Historic PES Legend

  17. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    E can now be marketed for fat loss, but only at 8mg per serving rather than the old standard 25.

    Which in my eyes is BS considering is 1000% DSHEA compliant.
    Or you could market it as a fat burner AND bronchiodilator/asthma relief, the E is just for bronchials...

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Or you could market it as a fat burner AND bronchiodilator/asthma relief, the E is just for bronchials...
    how is Ephedrine HCL legal OTC at 25 mgs and in a dietary supplement it isn't??? Freaking FDA...
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  19. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    how is Ephedrine HCL legal OTC at 25 mgs and in a dietary supplement it isn't??? Freaking FDA...
    A legal loop hole on what the product is intended for.

    Many asthma suffers would be in an uproar if their life saving OTC meds are taken away.

    The FDA care not about people trying to lose weight.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    A legal loop hole on what the product is intended for.

    Many asthma suffers would be in an uproar if their life saving OTC meds are taken away.

    The FDA care not about people trying to lose weight.
    my state has a bill on the table to make all ephedra products by prescription only. claritin d seems to be a favorite of meth makers here. of course the gov of indiana is a real diick.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    my state has a bill on the table to make all ephedra products by prescription only. claritin d seems to be a favorite of meth makers here. of course the gov of indiana is a real diick.
    That is for Pseudophedrine, and many counties have done that exact same thing. Really pisses me off because Pseudoephedrine is the only thing that helps me when I get a damn cold! Luckily even though Missouri seems to be the Meth capital, the prescription requirement hasnt hit st. louis yet.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    That is for Pseudophedrine, and many counties have done that exact same thing. Really pisses me off because Pseudoephedrine is the only thing that helps me when I get a damn cold! Luckily even though Missouri seems to be the Meth capital, the prescription requirement hasnt hit st. louis yet.
    yeah, it's a real problem for me too, claritin d opens up my nose when nothing else will-but it is always sold out. meth heads buy that stuff up as soone as it is stocked.

    btw-here in indiana the bill is for all ephedra products including bronkaid types.


    just to let you know, the governor of indiana used to be ceo at eli lilly.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    yeah, it's a real problem for me too, claritin d opens up my nose when nothing else will-but it is always sold out. meth heads buy that stuff up as soone as it is stocked.

    btw-here in indiana the bill is for all ephedra products including bronkaid types.


    just to let you know, the governor of indiana used to be ceo at eli lilly.
    Well the good news about Claritin D is you can get it generic at Walgreens and rarely is that sold out. And the Gov of Indiana balanced the budget, something the last how many couldn't do (and the mayor of Indianapolis as well if memory serves me right)? My parents live there and seem to feel he is doing a fine enough job (no one is perfect of course) and the state is no longer perpetually broke. I could see if you are a union laborer you might be mad but hey, you guys had a good run for the last 100 years so I think its time for a little parody with the rest of the non-union workers.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    A legal loop hole on what the product is intended for.

    Many asthma suffers would be in an uproar if their life saving OTC meds are taken away.

    The FDA care not about people trying to lose weight.
    As an asthma sufferer I can tell you if you use anything over the counter you are pretty disappointed, 9/10 they do jack squat. Albuterol works far better than ephedrince HCL or primatine and is dirt cheap... but what do I know.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  25. I like albuterol, but I don't have asthma...
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