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- 10-18-2010, 09:58 PM
Web Exclusive - Anabolic Growth Kit
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- 10-18-2010, 10:06 PM
hhhmmm, might have to snag this and put away a couple of em for a rainy day.E-Pharm Rep... PM me with any questions or concerns
- 10-18-2010, 10:18 PM
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10-19-2010, 06:53 PM
10-19-2010, 07:08 PM
E-Pharm Rep... PM me with any questions or concerns
10-19-2010, 07:11 PM
10-19-2010, 08:53 PM
what kind of results are typical with this. I realize typical is very wide open, but with good diet and training might one see
NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.
10-19-2010, 08:54 PM
10-20-2010, 02:53 PM
oooo how i love the supplement scene. . .i'll have to jump on this deal here. . .dam!
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10-20-2010, 03:23 PM
10-20-2010, 06:28 PM
10-21-2010, 12:38 AM
any one mind saving me the google and also explain the compounds conversion process for these ph's....
Are these all 2 step ph's and do they effectively mimic the classics they are named after?
Any chance for them to convert to an unwanted version and is 4-ad effected by aromstase as I suspect the other 2 don't if they are direct ph's to 1-test and deca....
10-21-2010, 08:39 AM
This is worth a read to explain how it's been studied with the 19-norandrostenediol: Sublingual Superiority
Also I posted quite a bit of info in this thread regarding the 1-Androsterone:
1-Androsterone (the active in 1-Andro RD) is actually 1-DHEA (different names for the same thing).
DHEA converts to Androstenedrione and Androstenediol (amongst other things) which convert to testosterone (but both are now banned substances).
1-DHEA or 1-Androsterone converts to 1-Androstenedione and 1-Androstenediol (amongst other things) and then into 1-Testosterone.
When it comes to 1-Androsterone or 1-adiol/1-dione your goal is to get the conversion to 1-Testosterone. An extremely effective dry muscle builder.Overall a good view of these PH's is to look at a chart showing the intracrinology involved with the conversions (the same conversions apply to basic DHEA):
In 2002 the Androstenediol study they were specifically looking at a sublingual Androstenediol hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin complex and it's impact on the homornal response in young males (Iowa State students). Note, this is the same complex used in 1-Andro RD for improved delivery.
In an older study they found that oral intake (100-200mg/day) of adiol and adione did not change serum testosterone concentrations in men. Thus the oral delivery route sucked for bioavailability.
Back to the study... They gave the subjects sublingual tablets that contained about 20mg's of adiol. There was also a placebo group. They measured serum Adione, total test, free test, estradiol, but no cortisol unfortunately. Here were the charted results:
As you can see nearly all hormones measured in this study increased. Keep in mind some of these conversions are constantly moving and converting back and forth. So this was really just a 'snapshot' of what was occurring in the human body at the graphed time frames.
PA wrote a really good article about conversions that I posted here:
PA on "Conversions"
If I had to guess it converts to a reasonable amount of 1-test (as well as other hormones). I say this simply because we have sold this compound for some time and anecdotally the results have been positive. Even if it does convert to some estradiol it is not necessarily bad on cycle as I'm sure you are aware.
Having said all that, this newest formulation is by far our best ever and should further improve results imo.
Hope this helps a little. We always get questions as to the exact conversions amount but these hormones never stop moving and converting so it's difficult to give an exact answer. We would be guessing anyways.
10-21-2010, 08:05 PM
10-21-2010, 09:21 PM
Very nice, thank you for the explanation....
I have a fairly simple chart like yours for hormone conversion as well ad being familiar with pp's of course. Just wondered the amount of steps here and also the info on the method of delivery.... Both sound cool...
10-22-2010, 06:47 AM
[quote=Royd The Noyd;2621866]If you purchase 1 box, this is a good cycle to run using these three compounds.
thanks for the chart, that is perfect, now if you guys can just keep the sale on for another 3 weeks or so!
10-22-2010, 08:07 AM
Get in on this while you can, great price for a great new product. Your going to love the RD tabs for sure. My personal suggestion is to run this for 6-8 weeks, but thats just me.
10-22-2010, 06:41 PM
10-23-2010, 09:45 AM
11-05-2010, 03:28 PM
I used the 4AD UTT and I have to admit that while it obviously isn't test cyp, it seems to follow a "clean" conversion process to testosterone. I cannot use products like Dermacrine b/c the 5-DHEA directly irritates the **** out of my nipples (probably via direct binding to the ER). But I never had any issues with the 4AD UTT. I preferred 2-3ml twice a day, but I found it very effective for Pheraplex induced lethargy (f'ing terrible at 30-40mg/day) and it gave an almost instance libido boost. Pretty impressive for a 2-step PH.
So these new products definitely seem to go to work fast...but how long do they stay active-24 hrs a dose or you need to split them up, etc?
11-05-2010, 04:20 PM
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11-05-2010, 08:16 PM
I echo DH, I also used 4-AD UTT (as part of a stack which also included 1-AD UTT) and was very pleased with the results. Good sh!t.
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11-05-2010, 10:52 PM
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11-07-2010, 06:32 PM
11-07-2010, 07:53 PM
PCT is so dependent on the individual. We make Arom-X as something you can add in your pct but some guys prefer serms or ai's. If you have ran a cycle before then do what works for you...otherwise here is some general info:
Post cycle Therapy. The theme of this rule falls right in line with the above rules. Don’t go overboard. There is no reason to run multiple compounds. Your only goal is to return the body to homeostasis. For the most part, time is likely your best tool when it comes to returning your body to normal hormonal levels. But there are some basic supplements you can use to jump start this process. I will outline the major ones below. But in general if they are not listed then they are NOT absolutely necessary:
Note the SERM vs OTC PCT debate will likely continue to rage on for years. I am not here to say which is “right or wrong” but rather to simply present the basic purpose of these supplements. It is still your choice which route you go with so please do not assume I am siding with one or another.
SERM’s – These are considered a must by many for PCT as they have shown proven results when dealing with a suppressed hormonal system. However be advised it is illegal to possess these items without a prescription. These can be obtained for ‘research’ however. Dosing can vary greatly depending on the SERM so please search your favorite supplement/bodybuilding board for recommendations. Examples of SERM’s include clomid, nolvadex, toremifine, raloxifene, etc.
OTC Anti-Aromatase (AI’s) – If you choose to avoid a SERM an anti-aromatase is likely your best option to restore your hormonal system. Again dosing varies however most manufacturers will provide you a recommended dosing strategy on the label. Again it doesn’t hurt to search your favorite board for more information.
Support Supplement – As stated above a simple ‘all in one’ type support supplement is also useful during PCT.
Test Booster – There are hundreds if not thousands of ‘testosterone’ boosters available. Find one that has good user feedback and quality customer support. You don’t have to research this issue to death. Just get one and your libido will thank you.
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11-27-2010, 07:28 PM
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11-29-2010, 10:29 AM
Ahh, by the time I got back from depositing money into my checking account this morning the promotion was over. Will AMS be having a similar Christmas special?
11-29-2010, 10:58 AM
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