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    More information can also be found in the following thread:

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    Wouldn't consider taking oral 1-Andro due to its poor absorption, but sublingual...

    MMM that changes things. What's the effective dose look like? Edit: NM, 200mg a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Wouldn't consider taking oral 1-Andro due to its poor absorption, but sublingual...

    MMM that changes things. What's the effective dose look like? Edit: NM, 200mg a day.
    You got it. We are using the hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin complex now to better delivery it as well. I think this is a big improvement over our previous liposomal delivery.
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    im kinda skeptical of AMS several of your products tested for DHEA didnt they? How do I know this isnt the same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    im kinda skeptical of AMS several of your products tested for DHEA didnt they? How do I know this isnt the same thing?
    No. 1-Androsterone (the active in 1-Andro RD) is actually 1-DHEA (different names for the same thing).

    DHEA converts to Androstenedrione and Androstenediol (amongst other things) which convert to testosterone (but both are now banned substances).

    1-DHEA or 1-Androsterone converts to 1-Androstenedione and 1-Androstenediol (amongst other things) and then into 1-Testosterone.

    When it comes to 1-Androsterone or 1-adiol/1-dione your goal is to get the conversion to 1-Testosterone. An extremely effective dry muscle builder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    No. 1-Androsterone (the active in 1-Andro RD) is actually 1-DHEA (different names for the same thing).

    DHEA converts to Androstenedrione and Androstenediol (amongst other things) which convert to testosterone (but both are now banned substances).

    1-DHEA or 1-Androsterone converts to 1-Androstenedione and 1-Androstenediol (amongst other things) and then into 1-Testosterone.

    When it comes to 1-Androsterone or 1-adiol/1-dione your goal is to get the conversion to 1-Testosterone. An extremely effective dry muscle builder.

    thats interesting...

    one of my patients was recently prescribed DHEA in order to elevate her cortisol and estrogen levels, also a raise in testosterone may occur (which wont harm her anyway).

    im just wondering, DHEA has the ability to convert to all 3 of these, how does 1-DHEA differ and how do you maintain it has a higher conversion to test than cortisol/estrogen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scump View Post
    thats interesting...

    one of my patients was recently prescribed DHEA in order to elevate her cortisol and estrogen levels, also a raise in testosterone may occur (which wont harm her anyway).

    im just wondering, DHEA has the ability to convert to all 3 of these, how does 1-DHEA differ and how do you maintain it has a higher conversion to test than cortisol/estrogen?
    Women will convert DHEA at differnt rates to different hormones than men will. DHEA is "the Master Hormone" that, from chloresterol, will covert eventually to all sex related, and hormone varients. Women NEED testosterone to give them any kind of sex drive. This is why "the pill" kills their libido, causing a hormone imbalance with a marked rise in estrone/estrodol/progestins etc. This ends up dominating any test they have, that supports a healthy libido.
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    I guess im just confused.. What are the dosages?? like how many tabs a day are you supposed to take.. and i guess that will answer if 60 pills is a months worth or just half..
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    Quote Originally Posted by scump View Post
    thats interesting...

    one of my patients was recently prescribed DHEA in order to elevate her cortisol and estrogen levels, also a raise in testosterone may occur (which wont harm her anyway).

    im just wondering, DHEA has the ability to convert to all 3 of these, how does 1-DHEA differ and how do you maintain it has a higher conversion to test than cortisol/estrogen?
    There is currently no literature that directly pertains to 1-Androsterone's conversion to 1-Adiol or 1-Adione. The best I could tell you is based off the older 1/4-AD studies and a study on the conversion of Androstenediol to testosterone.

    In 2002 the Androstenediol study they were specifically looking at a sublingual Androstenediol hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin complex and it's impact on the homornal response in young males (Iowa State students). Note, this is the same complex used in 1-Andro RD for improved delivery.

    In an older study they found that oral intake (100-200mg/day) of adiol and adione did not change serum testosterone concentrations in men. Thus the oral delivery route sucked for bioavailability.

    Back to the study... They gave the subjects sublingual tablets that contained about 20mg's of adiol. There was also a placebo group. They measured serum Adione, total test, free test, estradiol, but no cortisol unfortunately. Here were the charted results:





    As you can see nearly all hormones measured in this study increased. Keep in mind some of these conversions are constantly moving and converting back and forth. So this was really just a 'snapshot' of what was occurring in the human body at the graphed time frames.

    PA wrote a really good article about conversions that I posted here:

    PA on "Conversions"

    If I had to guess it converts to a reasonable amount of 1-test (as well as other hormones). I say this simply because we have sold this compound for some time and anecdotally the results have been positive. Even if it does convert to some estradiol it is not necessarily bad on cycle as I'm sure you are aware.

    Having said all that, this newest formulation is by far our best ever and should further improve results imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZROC View Post
    I guess im just confused.. What are the dosages?? like how many tabs a day are you supposed to take.. and i guess that will answer if 60 pills is a months worth or just half..
    We recommend 2 rapid dissolve tablets per day spread out evenly. So one box would get you a 30 day cycle. Keep in mind the benefit of non-methyl's like 1-Andro RD, is less hepatic stress and typically they are a bit easier on the lipids (maybe not "tren").

    You can safely run these as long as 12 weeks. Or you could opt for a shorter cycle to attempt to escape some of the sides of 1-Androsterone (lethargy, hair loss, libido loss).
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    This may be to early but do you guys plan on doing this with the 4-ad as well? Ive used each variant you guys have come out with for the 1-ad and have loved each one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    This may be to early but do you guys plan on doing this with the 4-ad as well? Ive used each variant you guys have come out with for the 1-ad and have loved each one.
    thanks for asking what was on my mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    This may be to early but do you guys plan on doing this with the 4-ad as well? Ive used each variant you guys have come out with for the 1-ad and have loved each one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Liftergym33 View Post
    thanks for asking what was on my mind
    We very likely will, but it may fall behind a ton of other things we want to launch first. I know most people think they are significantly more convenient then the UTT Liquids....which I have to agree with.
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    so, 200mg per serving, 100mg per capsule?

    the utt dosage wasn't in........

    nvm clever. still only getting 20mg of 1-dhea.

    so i'd say you'll need 160-240mg for a 4-6 week cycle

    each tablet has 100mg which contains 20mg of 1-dhea.

    hope it's cheap enough for 2-3 boxes each cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    so, 200mg per serving, 100mg per capsule?

    the utt dosage wasn't in........

    nvm clever. still only getting 20mg of 1-dhea.

    so i'd say you'll need 160-240mg for a 4-6 week cycle

    each tablet has 100mg which contains 20mg of 1-dhea.

    hope it's cheap enough for 2-3 boxes each cycle.
    Nothing clever, the UTT was 20mg's of active 1-Androsterone/serving. The Rapid Dissolve tablets are the same. You have to remember with buccal mucosal delivery the law of diminishing returns applies. Meaning you can only absorb so much per serving.

    Look at the information above. Only 20mg's of Adiol was used and it drastically increased hormone levels. In fact the oral 200mg dose did not improve levels significantly, especially compared to the 20mg Adiol dose.

    You cant even compare this to an encapsulated drug because the improved bioavailability with the addition of hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin far outweighs an encapsulated product even at higher doses.

    Joseph Pitha and company actually studied this with testosterone as well. Using a cyclodextrin complex and buccal delivery and found that a 40mg dose was superior to a higher dose sublingually (I cant remember the dose off the top of my head but I will get it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
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    Do you happen to know the proposed ETA for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Nothing clever, the UTT was 20mg's of active 1-Androsterone/serving. The Rapid Dissolve tablets are the same. You have to remember with buccal mucosal delivery the law of diminishing returns applies. Meaning you can only absorb so much per serving.

    Look at the information above. Only 20mg's of Adiol was used and it drastically increased hormone levels. In fact the oral 200mg dose did not improve levels significantly, especially compared to the 20mg Adiol dose.

    You cant even compare this to an encapsulated drug because the improved bioavailability with the addition of hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin far outweighs an encapsulated product even at higher doses.

    Joseph Pitha and company actually studied this with testosterone as well. Using a cyclodextrin complex and buccal delivery and found that a 40mg dose was superior to a higher dose sublingually (I cant remember the dose off the top of my head but I will get it).

    you're right I cant compare them, yet. as I havn't used any isomers of dhea products. yet.

    but I have ran 4-androstenediol. and found it was best used at 800-1000mg e/d, and stacked with something like superdrol.

    I understand conversion of test, 4-ad can go back an forth. same goes for 1-test and 1-ad. this is another reason conversion rates are worthless.

    but i base my guess work off of the weakness of 4-dhea pro hormones from user logs i've read.

    and base this off of my own knowledge of androstenediol pro hormones.

    so I think 80-120mg is pretty good compared to 120mg-150mg estimation from the old androstenediol pro hormones of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoopem6 View Post


    Do you happen to know the proposed ETA for this?
    Give us 3 weeks...(one is in production now).

    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    you're right I cant compare them, yet. as I havn't used any isomers of dhea products. yet.

    but I have ran 4-androstenediol. and found it was best used at 800-1000mg e/d, and stacked with something like superdrol.

    I understand conversion of test, 4-ad can go back an forth. same goes for 1-test and 1-ad. this is another reason conversion rates are worthless.

    but i base my guess work off of the weakness of 4-dhea pro hormones from user logs i've read.

    and base this off of my own knowledge of androstenediol pro hormones.

    so I think 80-120mg is pretty good compared to 120mg-150mg estimation from the old androstenediol pro hormones of the day.
    I agree with most of what you have said...the one thing to remember is 1-testosterone is significantly more anabolic/androgenic (2 to 1 in this case) then testosterone (4-DHEA's end goal). So overall it's a more powerful compound the 4-AD/DHEA.
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    good point, I forgot to mention that.

    I know the dosages for 1-ad are lower than the 4-ad, because as u've said, it's a stronger compound.

    I've thought about using ams's products. they run about the same as the black market androstenediol products (1ad, 4ad) so it's just a flip of the coin for me. not sure when i'll make the decision.
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    btw, I'd like to see a stack kit that contained all three ph's instead of the aromx and two ph's.

    I'm sure im not alone in this. just my thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    btw, I'd like to see a stack kit that contained all three ph's instead of the aromx and two ph's.

    I'm sure im not alone in this. just my thoughts.
    Yeah we can look into that. I'd like to see more people using Decavol anyways. Its my personal favorite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Yeah we can look into that. I'd like to see more people using Decavol anyways. Its my personal favorite.
    i like decavol aswell. so am i understanding right that these tabs are better than the Utt. i was a big fan of the utt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flightposite View Post
    i like decavol aswell. so am i understanding right that these tabs are better than the Utt. i was a big fan of the utt.
    I'd estimate they are better. The UTT's were designed with a liposomal delivery. Which has a lot of the same characteristics as a cyclodextrin delivery but the actual studies on PH's and steroids were done using hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin.

    Both significantly improve sublingual delivery but the research (at least currently) lends a bit more support to the cyclodextrin complex when combined with a PH.
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    Royd, looking at putting together a relatively mild PH cycle for August that is going to be based around LG Methyl-1D (have 2x135 count bottles), do you think the 1-Andro would stack well with that? If so, would that require a SERM for PCT or can I get away with something like the TRS stack from Primordial? Still doing research but I like what I am reading in here so I figured I would ask the experts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Royd, looking at putting together a relatively mild PH cycle for August that is going to be based around LG Methyl-1D (have 2x135 count bottles), do you think the 1-Andro would stack well with that? If so, would that require a SERM for PCT or can I get away with something like the TRS stack from Primordial? Still doing research but I like what I am reading in here so I figured I would ask the experts.
    I guess it depends what you mean by mild. Unfortunately 1-Andro RD is going to be mild on the liver (in comparison to other ph/ps/aas), but at the same time because it converts to a strong androgen like 1-testosterone it can be quite suppressive over time.

    If you wanted to use the combination of the two then I would suggest the M-1D at evenly spaced intervals throughout the day then 1 Rapid Dissolve tab about 60-90 minutes pre-workout.

    Also you dont want to dose the two at the same time. They utilize similar (and limited) enzymes for their conversions. It looks like LG designed the 'Metabolism Complex' to help enhance the expression of the enzymes that help the conversions, however I'd still space them apart.

    The reason I state 1-Andro RD pre-workout is to promote some aggression and basically get a more androgenic and stronger overall compound surrounding the times you might need it most.
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    Royd when I run these- wth are the tablets going to taste like?! Lol im so stoked to add this to my winter bulk of m14add/pmag it will be good to have a test in there as these convert to testosterone correct?
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    btw AMS is providing me with something of this nature to log for them which I will be doing in about 2 months or so

    I am wrapped up in pct right now and want to wait at least a month after my pct to get blood work done- then I will prob wait one more month


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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    Royd when I run these- wth are the tablets going to taste like?! Lol im so stoked to add this to my winter bulk of m14add/pmag it will be good to have a test in there as these convert to testosterone correct?
    It actually converts to 1-testosterone. Which is quite a bit different than testosterone. It's wiki page actually gives a decent description. Replying to your PM shortly...
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