Primordial Performance Presents: Testosterone Conversion Factor-1!!
- 04-15-2010, 12:43 AM
- 04-15-2010, 02:22 AM
huh, looks interesting, i'll have to wait until i see some logs before I shell out some cash.
i had to pay the irs this year. no return for me.
04-15-2010, 02:36 AM
Any reason besides prolactin that you guys suggest a 12 day lay off? When all one would have to do is take 1-carboxy while on it, and AI if estrogen becomes an issue.
doing my own thang!
04-15-2010, 09:15 AM
Two weeks superdrone, twelve days DAA, two days off, two weeks superdrone, TRS with DAA. sounds tasty.
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04-15-2010, 09:43 AM
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04-15-2010, 12:23 PM
Check out my log in the supplement log section guys, I will be adding TCF-1 in next week!
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04-15-2010, 02:38 PM
04-15-2010, 05:18 PM
Hope not a dumb question, how does this differ or relate to someone taking something like mass fx, testopro or any other test booster? With that being said, if I just came off a massfx cycle of 4 weeks and a prime for 4 more, can run this now or wait four weeks?
04-16-2010, 04:59 PM
04-17-2010, 02:15 AM
Most natty test boosters like the above ones increase free test without increasing total test. So the combo of TCF-1 or DAA + Phyto-Testosterone or TestoPro should give some pretty sick results and very synergystic too.
I'd do it.
04-17-2010, 02:19 AM
Would Sustain and this work well together? Besides price...is there any real difference between this and NP's bulk?
04-17-2010, 02:38 AM
04-17-2010, 02:42 AM
04-17-2010, 06:16 AM
TCF-1 works in a different manner to other testosterone boosters by increasing the rate of conversion of intracellular cholesterol to testosterone via the mitochondria. So you could stack it with those compounds and still see a large benefit
04-18-2010, 01:11 AM
^^^What he said. It does work in such a different manner from most all test boosters (it boost total test and LH) that it could be used to compliment them (Phyto-Testosterone or TestoPro or Testofen only or Divanil only, etc). Also, most natty test boosters don't increase total test, just free test. Hence, the complementary mechanism.
04-18-2010, 08:32 PM
I like adding L Carnitine period. The 20+ some benefits, increasing/opening testosterone receptor sites is one of my favorites. GPLC and Arginocarn from Primordial Performance are great sources. Id like to see them add a L tartrate form if possible.
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04-20-2010, 02:59 PM
Id assume they would slowly taper down to regular levels. This is one of the benefits of the 12 day/on off on schedule, is that you would see the increase in test in 12 days, still have above norm levels through your break period (slowly decreasing), followed by re-uping it with more TCF-1. BTW: This is based on my judgement of the studies, but I can't say for sure.
04-20-2010, 03:10 PM
They plan on adding TCF-1 to the TRS stack. Thats what leads me to believe they compliment very well.
04-20-2010, 03:11 PM
04-20-2010, 10:03 PM
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04-21-2010, 01:34 AM
Not to be cynical, but it seems you might have to keep taking this for the rest of your life if you want to keep those kinds of levels. Other than taking a blood test, is\there any significant or noticeable changes that one can definitely attribute to having high test levels? I guess one would be strength, and some sexual benefits. Sorry for all the questions.
04-21-2010, 09:25 AM
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