HGHup♂™ TECHNICAL INFORMATION
Attached is the Technical Write-Up for APPNUT's newest product HGHup♂™ in two different formats, so that you can all review it.
very interesting information, thanks for the post Rosie!
So I was right about the-L-Tartrate, eh?
For those, like me, who don't want to wait to open the file. These are the ingedients that appear to be in HGHup.
Same combo as :
Chlorophytum Borivaillanum (apparently spelled with 1 L)
Green Tea ( )
The bolded ingredients are the ones that seem to be unique to this GH secretagogue.
Pending an actual ingredient profile or some serious 'synergy,' dosage will either be really high (many pills,) or could potentially be underdosed compared to similar items. Would be a convenient all-in-one I suppose.
Speculation is like sitting in a rocking chair though, it gives us something to do but doesn't get us anywhere.
"I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
For those who can't be bothered opening the file/s (please note that there are Figures and Graphs in the document; this is just the text).
HGHup♂™ TECHNICAL INFORMATION
HGHup♂ promotes radical increases in serum HGH and testosterone levels without a prescription. It is the only orally viable compound that is proven to increase HGH AND testosterone in human subjects.
• Increases the output of growth hormone and local IGF-1 levels
• Increases the duration/viability of growth hormone pulse mass
• Increases androgen receptor structure, function, and number
• Increases natural production of testosterone
EFFECTS RELATED TO PHYSIQUE AND LIFE ENHANCEMENT:
• Greater lean muscle mass
• Lowered body fat
• Better skin tone
• Deeper, more restful sleep
• Increased strength
• Faster healing of injuries and better recovery from physical stress/training
MAIN MECHANISMS OF ACTION:
Mucuna Pruriens, Vitamin B6 and L-Dopa: Increase Growth Hormone Output and Testosterone Production While Concurrently Decreasing Somatostatin and Prolactin
• HGHup♂ contains highly concentrated L-Dopa derived from Mucuna Pruriens What is Mucuna Pruriens? (32). L-Dopa has been shown to significantly increase levels of growth hormone in human subjects iwhen administered orally. (1, 2, 3, 33).
• Oral viability in HGHUP♂ critical for product effectiveness, as growth hormone cannot be absorbed and is rendered ineffective due to the fragility of the ingredients. Several good examples are synthetic growth hormone (see Fig. 1) and growth hormone releasing hormone (GHRH, see Fig. 2). These compounds cannot be administered orally; because of their fragile amino acid sequence is destroyed by stomach acids. This also holds true with the vast majority of the so-called “GH Boosters” and “Peptides” commonly found in sports nutrition products.
• L-Dopa and Dopamine have also been shown to inhibit prolactin, a hormone that suppresses male testosterone production. Prolactin also has a positive correlation with a second hormone called somatostatin, which decreases the both amount and effectiveness of circulating growth hormone. Therefore, by lowering prolactin (and consequently somatostatin) levels, HGHUP♂ increases both testosterone and GH production; leading to greater recovery and lean body mass (38, 39).
• Vitamin B6, is included in the formula for HGHUP♂, as it can also help further lower prolactin levels and increase the night-time peak of GH release pulse, while at the same time increasing the rise in GH associated with exercise by as much as 23% (7).
Huperzine-A: Increasing AChE Inhibition and Mean serum GH by Decreasing Somatostatin
• Huperzine-A is a strong acetylcholine esterase (AChE) inhibitor. Acetylcholine esterase inhibitors have been shown in numerous scientific studies to inhibit somatostatin via a variety of synergistic biomechanisms; all of which contribute to increased levels of growth hormone (9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18).
o Somatostatin is a hormone that exerts effects on anterior pituitary as well as pancreatic, liver and gastrointestinal function (40, 41, 42, 43) .
o Somatostatin is also important because it directly effects growth hormone release and is the major regulating factor in slowing or even stopping growth hormone output.
o Somatostatin inhibits GH secretion directly from somatotrophs and antagonizes the GH secretagogue activity of ghrelin. Breifly explain what ghrelin is and its relevance By inhibiting somatostatin, overall mean serum GH will increase (41, 42)..
o Somatostatin inhibits GH secretion indirectly via antagonizing GHRH secretion (41, 42, 43).
o It inhibits GH secretion indirectly via inhibiting the secretion of ghrelin from the stomach (42).
• Therefore, the Huperzine A, in HGHUP♂ increases the length, intensity, duration of growth hormone pulses and increase mean serum GH levels, therefore allowing for more of the positive anabolic and anti-aging benefits associated with GH.(8, 10, 12-17, 19-20).
Green Tea Extract, and (−)-epigallocatechin-3-O-gallate (EGCG): Increasing Dopa Decarboxylase Inhibition and the AChE-inhibiting Effects of HGHUP♂
• Dopamine crosses the blood/brain barrier poorly, and cannot exert optimal effects on target receptors unless enough of the compound reaches the brain. L-Dopa is freely absorbed across this barrier, and when L-dopa crosses the barrier readily, growth hormone levels increase. (1-6, 32-33)
• L-Dopa is most effective when conversion of L-Dopa to dopamine is mediated by a decarboxylase inhibitor What is a decarboxylase inhibitor and what does it do? (2, 3, 4, 5, 19, 20, 37).
• A decarboxylase inhibitor is generally administered at the same time as L-Dopa / Mucuna in order to reduce conversion of the L-dopa into dopamine in the periphery. (−)-epigallocatechin-3-O-gallate (EGCG), which is found in high amounts in the green tea extract used in HGHUP♂ has been shown in several studies to be irreversible inhibitors of Dopa decarboxylase. Are you saying here that EGCG is a decarboxylase inhibitor? This means that EGCG keeps L-dopa from converting into dopamine and allowing significant levels of L-dopa to reach the brain and increase growth hormone levels (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 37).
• EGCG has also been shown to significantly increase the effects of Huperzine A on acetylcholine esterase inhibition by increasing the transport of Hup-A ? by serum albumin. This allows for greater amounts of acetylcholine to be present, therefore allowing for greater mean serum growth hormone. Increased serum GH from HGHUP♂ allows for increased anabolism, better recovery, and increased muscle mass (19, 20).
HGHUP♂ INCREASES ANDROGEN RECEPTOR QUANTITY AND DENSITY AND CREATES A BETTER BINDING ENVIRONMENT FOR EXISTING ANDROGENS
L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate and Magnesium: Increasing Androgen Receptor Number and Density, and the Creation of a Better Binding Environment
• L-Carnitine L-Tartrate is an amino acid that has been shown to increase the number of androgen receptors in skeletal muscle, creating a better binding environment for testosterone and other androgens by allowing for a greater number of intact receptors available for hormonal interactions. (21-23)
• Magnesium has been shown in more recent studies to inhibit the binding of steroid hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and free testosterone. SHBG binds free testosterone and allows it to be excreted from the body, without binding the androgen receptor. Magnesium keeps this from happening by altering the binding affinity of testosterone to SHBG, and thereby allowing for increased amounts of free testosterone to remain active in the bloodstream. (24)
• Other human research has shown that supplemental magnesium, when taken along with other ingredients like DHEA and Zinc, can significantly increase free testosterone. (25-27)
• Therefore, HGHUP♂ allows for greater numbers of androgen receptors and a better binding environment for testosterone in skeletal muscle. This is a new breakthrough in sports supplementation as HGHUP♂ creates a better target for circulating free testosterone, allowing for greater binding of testosterone to the extra receptors which leads to increased protein synthesis, better recovery, and increased muscle mass.
HGHUP♂ INCREASES TESTOSTERONE
Mucuna Pruriens, Selenium, and Chlorophytum Borivillanum Ethanolic/Sapogenic Extract: Increasing Testosterone Levels
• Mucuna Pruriens has been shown in several recent human studies to improve testosterone levels and spermatogenesis in animal studies and humans, via prolactin inhibition. Prolactin, as mentioned earlier, is a hormone that suppresses male testosterone production (30-31, 34-36, 38-39).
• The ethanolic and sapogenic extracts of Chlorophytum Borivaillanum have also been shown in animal studies to increase testosterone, and anecdotal data from products containing this compound also point to increased testosterone and lean body mass for users of this phyto-androgenic compound. However, the mechanism of action of Chlorophytum is poorly understood. (28- 29)
• Selenium has been shown in several studies to have direct effects on the biosynthesis pathways of testosterone. Selenium is rate-limiting in testosterone production in men, and if enough selenium (selenium deficiency is very common) is not available, testosterone will not be produced in optimal levels (27).
Administration, Timing, and Dosing
• Normal GH pulses (see chart below) occur throughout the day. For a normal male in an average day, there are 10 pulses of GH secretion lasting on average 96.4 mins with 128 mins between each pulse. The largest GH pulse occurs during stages 3 and 4 of the sleep cycle. GH pulses during sleep (see Fig. 5) occur at nearly triple the rate of GH pulses during the day (44-45)
• Somatostatin release is controlled in large part by the cholinergic system. The cholinergic system is responsible for regulating the amount of acetylcholine found in the body at any given time. Acetylcholine is a neurotransmitter responsible for muscular activation in the peripheral nervous system, and tends to be excitatory in the central nervous system (CNS) (10, 11, 12, 13).
• The CNS component of acetylcholine mediates the cholinergic system, and this is important because the cholinergic system is responsible for mediating growth hormone response (11, 12, 13, 14, 15).
• The mechanism through which this is accomplished is simple: by increasing acetylcholine levels, there will be an increase in mean serum GH. HGHUP♂ increases acetylcholine via lowering levels of acetylcholine esterase or AChE (an enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine) (11, 12, 13, 14, 15).
• Taking an acetylcholine esterase inhibitor (in the case of HGHUP♂, Huperzine-A) before sleep will result in dramatically reduced somatostatin levels and dramatically increase serum GH levels (1-4, 5, 9-17,19, 20, 44, 45).
• Somatostatin seems to be the major inhibitory factor in sleep-related GH pulses. When AChE is inhibited by pryridostigmine (an AChE inhibitor very similar to Huperzine-A) GH pulse mass is increased, and mean serum GH almost doubled. In terms of potency, Huperzine-A has actually been shown to be more potent than pyridostigmine bromide in terms of AChE inhibition (9-17, 19-20) .
• There has also been a very popular trend recently of bodybuilders taking Huperzine-A along with injectible synthetic growth hormone, because the compound is so effective at inhibiting somatostatin and increasing serum GH (46)
• Taking (−)-epigallocatechin-3-O-gallate (EGCG) along with Huperzine-A will increase Hup-A’s effectiveness in inhibiting acetylcholine esterase, and its ability to allow the cholinergic system to suppress somatostatin. This has been verified in several scientific studies (19-20).
• Taking a supplement containing L-Dopa with a decarboxylase inhibitor before sleep can allow for dramatically increased levels of GH (1-5, 32- 33, 37-39).
• Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) can also increase the amount of GH released. Insulin and GH are antagonistic, and the lower the insulin level, the higher the GH level (see chart below, 44-45).
• Timing of the dose and manipulating insulin levels before sleep is the key getting great results with HGHUP♂ (44-45, 47)
• Best results occur when a 4-6 capsule dosage is taken on an empty stomach (fasted state) 30 minutes before bedtime (44-45, 47)
Why Most OTC GH Products Are Ineffective, and How HGHUP♂ Differs
• Over the last 20 years, a variety of products that claim to boost HGH orally have been promoted in the US sports supplement market. The vast majority of these products have been completely ineffective for several reasons:
• Growth hormone is a peptide (a long chain amino acid structure), that cannot be taken in an oral form, due to the destruction of the sequence by the acidic environment of the stomach. Any supplement containing “oral growth hormone” is a scam (47).
• Many products use a combination of amino acids such as arginine and lysine in “kitchen sink” formulas, and claim that their combination is “scientifically proven” to work. Many amino acids boost growth hormone levels, but most of the time, it is only when taken intravenously, or in completely unattainable dosages that would make a normal person extremely sick. And the correct dosage is in gram amounts, not in the milligram range offered in many of these products (47).
• Even if these products allow for a viable release of GH, there is nothing present to inhibit somatostatin, which has been found to be the biggest factor in controlling GH levels (47)
• Many of these products are powdered mixes that contain sugar, artificial sweeteners, or other compounds that increase insulin secretion. As discussed above, this will render the product virtually useless due to the antagonism between insulin and growth hormone (47).
• HGHUP♂ differs from these compounds because of the nature of the formulation. Every compound in the product is designed to work in concert with the other components; no filler or ineffective components are found in this product (47).
• HGHUP♂ utilizes the latest research on compounds which have been overlooked by other companies. The secret of the product is not necessarily on the newness of the ingredient, more on the complexity, effectiveness and synergism of the blend (1-47).
• HGHUP♂ also utilizes components that boost androgen levels, increase the number and function of androgen receptors, and create an overall BETTER anabolic environment in which levels of testosterone and GH are optimized, leading to better recovery, increased lean body mass, and lower body fat (1-47).
Stacks and Tips to Maximize the Product
• Take Bio-Mend Anti-Oxidant formula
o High ORAC Value
o Protects cellular membrane
o Protects transcriptional factors (mRNA and DNA)
• In general, maintain a healthy diet and lifestyle:
o Drink Plenty of water; at least 64 oz. per day
o Ingest at least 1 gram of protein per lb. of body weight daily
o Sleep at least 7 hours per night
o Eat lots of fruits and vegetables
o Eat lots of complex carbs
o Eat 5-6 smaller protein and carb-rich meals throughout the day
o Increase calories to at least 500 Kcal/day over your normal intake
o BCAAs and Creatine will be helpful
o Avoid alcohol and tobacco
o Take HGHUP♂ on an empty stomach before going to sleep, or take it with an all-protein meal. Remember, carbohydrates/insulin decrease the effectiveness of the product.
o HGHUP♂ can be stacked with synthetic growth hormone and will make it more effective
In conclusion, HGHUP♂ in the most effective orally administered HGH and Testosterone agonist yet to be offered in the history of sports nutrition. For more information, you can contact Applied Nutriceuticals at firstname.lastname@example.org.
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This is what I found on Huperzine A :
Huperzine A, is a naturally occurring sesquiterpene alkaloid compound found in the plant firmoss Huperzia serrata.
Huperzine A is an Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor similar to other compounds donepezil, rivastigmine, and galantamine.
In the US Huperzine A is sold as a dietary supplement for memory support. The botanical has been used in China for centuries for the treatment of swelling, fever and blood disorders. Clinical trials in China has shown it to be effective in the treatment of Alzheimer's disease, and has been shown to enhance memory in healthy young students in one study. 
 Pharmacological effects
Acetylcholinesterase inhibition and NMDA receptor antagonism.
Huperzine A has also attracted the attention of US medical science. It is currently being investigated as a possible treatment for diseases characterized by neurodegeneration – particularly Alzheimer’s disease. It has been found to be an inhibitor of the enzyme acetylcholinesterase. The structure of the complex of huperzine A with acetylcholinesterase has been solved by X-ray crystallography (PDB code: 1VOT; see the 3D structure).This is the same mechanism of action of pharmaceutical drugs such as galantamine and donepezil used to treat Alzheimer's disease. Huperzine A is also a NMDA receptor antagonist which protects the brain against glutamate induced damage, and it increases nerve growth factor levels.
Clinical trials in China have shown that huperzine A is comparably effective to the drugs currently on the market, and may even be a bit safer in terms of side effects. Currently, the National Institute on Aging is conducting a Phase II clinical trial to evaluate the safety and efficiency of huperzine A in the treatment of Alzheimer's disease in a randomized controlled trial of its effect on cognitive function. Recently, it has been investigated for its effectiveness against epilepsy in an initial 20-person clinical study by Harvard University neuroscientists examining its worth and side effects in those who are not satisfactorily treated by existing pharmaceuticals.
Possible side effects may include breathing problems, tightness in the throat or chest, chest pain, skin hives, rash, itchy or swollen skin, upset stomach, diarrhea, vomiting, hyperactivity and insomnia. Most adverse events were cholinergic in nature and no serious adverse events occurred. Huperzine A is a well-tolerated drug. (Source J Neural Transm. 2009 Apr;116(4):457-65. Epub 2009 Feb 17. Efficacy and safety of natural acetylcholinesterase inhibitor huperzine A in the treatment of Alzheimer's disease: an updated meta-analysis.)
does this make igf2 obsolete?
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very nice write up and studies. oral gh products are ineffective the write up states.
after researching growth hormone for ghenerate I was thinking sublingual is the way to go with hgh products. nice studies as well. This product looks like who ever formulated it put a good amount of research and work into it. it looks solid. and me wants some =)
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I'd say no. IGF-2 is better to take pre-bedtime IMO, but HGHup feels quite a bit stronger.
ive speculated that huperzine-a increases growth hormone for a while.
Through acetycholine receptors, Alpha-GPC and nicotine do this as well.
Can IGF-2 and HGHup be taken together in a stack, or does one supercede the other?
well igf-2 has safed musli, rhodilea rosea, and dodder seed which are some beneficial herbs, probally rhodilea the most beneficial, but that does not effect growth hormone.
Honestly this is an IDEAL supplement, stack it with some testofen and KABOOM, good job AN, I feel this is the replacement of IGF-2. I will be purchasing, this is POTENT for SURE.
doing my own thang!
Looks interesting- I will definitely be trying this. A few questions:
1. If taken with 2nd Gear, would this give enough of a test boost to serve as a proper PCT?
2. How much of a test boost does this give? More or less than Drive?
3. How much lean muscle are testers gaining and over what time frame?
4. Can this be stacked with Lipo-PM?
Should it be?
5. Does this need to be cycled in the same way IGF-2 does?
6. Can this be stacked with The One for the added androgen receptor increase?