epistane pct, new please help

  1. epistane pct, new please help


    I am new here so please bear with me and give me a hand. I am currently running epi. I am into my second week 20/30 and planning on going 40/40 to finish it out. I am taking multi's, fish oil, taurine, glutamine, protein of course and 2 scoops of cycle support a day. I have read so much about pct and many different things. If any one could help me lay out a plan it would be greatly appreciated, this is my first cycle and am 31. I would like to run clen then, can I run this in my pct? And I would like to run the absolute most thorough pct reasonable. I am worried about rebound and gyno. I have had a considerable amount that has fluctuated since puberty and the epi seems to have reduced it in the first week and just kind of stayed the second. I have heard tamoxifen is the best to run. i have searched around alot but still dont know the deal with serms and ai's and test boosters.
    Please help fellas thanks.


  2. This doesn't help you at all. But, i'll tell you, you are doing the right thing with research and asking questions.

    My only cycle ever I did epi and loved it. I then Put together pretty much no pct and wound up loosing 20 lbs over the 3 months following.

    Gained about 7 lbs in a month and leaned out on epi...

    If I was ever going to run something hormonal again it would be this. Also are you sure yours is legit?
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/173797-one-small-step.html Getting my ass beat and logging it.

  3. It's ibe so to the beat of my knowledge it is legit. How were you hormonally after cycle? Anything I shoul be careful of or would benefit from knowing
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Jsal View Post
    It's ibe so to the beat of my knowledge it is legit. How were you hormonally after cycle? Anything I shoul be careful of or would benefit from knowing
    If its ibe/phf epi its fine. Check here for more pct info:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/
    PHF Rep


  5. I have been looking over pct alot and still don't have a clear idea. I am pretty sure I will be using tamox and I do not know what else. Tamox is a serm correct? And do I need an AI? Don't know what a good one is. I am very concerned about returning my natural test levels, If you could recomend anything with the tamox would be great.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Jsal View Post
    I have been looking over pct alot and still don't have a clear idea. I am pretty sure I will be using tamox and I do not know what else. Tamox is a serm correct? And do I need an AI? Don't know what a good one is. I am very concerned about returning my natural test levels, If you could recomend anything with the tamox would be great.
    Well, along with the (serm)novladex, if you even need it(Im not getting into that) you would probably run some kind of test booster, something to control cortisol, maybe a good creatine product and as far as the ai, you can, but thats an argument I dont want to have either.(some people hate ai)

    If you were gonna run novla: 40/40/20/20 or even 20/20/20/20, you could get yourself any of a hundred products out there to go along with it, maybe some DAA, like Adamantium, maybe some X-lean, Supress-C or Erase, you could run Inhibit-E, you could try something like Activate Xtreme, maybe some 6oxo, some high does DHEA, theres literally hundreds of variables and options, cost can become a factor, availability, convenience, dosing, etc.

    You could run an ai inverse to your serm if you want:

    Nolva 40/30/20/10, then Inhibit-E 25/50/75/75, plus a test booster.

    Or someone who knows how they tolerate things might run something like:

    Nolv 20/20/20/20
    Titanium 4-6/day weeks 1-4
    Erase 2-3/day weeks 1-4

    I cant just say, ok this is the way to do it, because like I said already, there may be 100 different correct ways to do it, or ways that worked better for some people than for others. I love the titanium and erase combo, some people worry about crashing e levels, so you have to be careful with those two for pct with serms. Some people prefer things like Triazole, which is also good, but others feel anything otc isnt going to be enough, and you will need something as strong as hcg to get things totally back up to speed. Some people hate nolvadex and will only recommend clomid, Letro, Torem, Aromasin and Arimidex or the tell you your gonna be in trouble if you dont use them. Of course it does depend on how hard the compound, how long, how suppressive, etc. Im just tryin to give you an idea on how opinions will vary. Epi is great, but imo, one of the more mild things out and around today, so you should be fine with something simple, you've got your serm on hand, and if you went with something like erase and titanuim, Im sure you would be pleased.
    Last edited by RoadBlocK; 06-08-2011 at 04:22 PM.
    PHF Rep


  7. Really, thank you very much for taking the time. That's exactly what I needed a basic outline. Now i know what I need and i will find what works for me. I am good with listening to my body and really get great results from supplements and work outs, so that pretty much laid the ground work for me and i can play a bit there. Can't thank you enough man. i seem to be experiencing a little atrophy or tightness down there, fellas just not hanging the same so wanted to make sure I'm on point with pct. Great results with epi, thanks, salute

  8. Do you think clen is a bad idea during pct?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Jsal View Post
    Do you think clen is a bad idea during pct?

    I dont like clen at all, and believe it has a direct effect on the heart, so you are going to have to look elsewhere for info on that one, sorry.
    PHF Rep


  10. Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    I dont like clen at all, and believe it has a direct effect on the heart, so you are going to have to look elsewhere for info on that one, sorry.
    So I am running Titanium and erase with adamantium pre workout for pct. I wound up with clomid instead of nolva. It has been a week since of epi and have been using the erase, titanium, adamantium along with my regular supplements but has=vent startted clomid yet and want to because of atrophy any suggestions on how to dose? Thanks for your help

  11. Im not a fan of clomid either, but Im pretty sure Ive seen some people say they run 50/50/25/25, try posting pct specific questions here: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/
    PHF Rep


  12. Yeah run it at 50/50/25/25 It ll get the job done
  

  
 

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